think about it. each dlc thats been released so far has added war assets and bioware claims they care for their fanbase. well i think they have a trick up their sleeve. each dlc leviathan, omega, they all add war assests. at this moment when you have 100% war assets you still lose in the refusal ending.....BUT....what if by the time the last dlc is released...there will be enough war assests....maybe when the last dlc is released all these new war assests will actually allow you to win in the refusal ending. i mean so far we now have the creators of the reapers as assests and all of omega as war assests....these are big assets....i think its possible...i think when the last dlc is released bioware will keep it tottally secret that by then you will be able to win the refusal ending thanks to all the new war assests.
theory: all the dlc being released will eventually change the refusal ending thanks to added war assets
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 06:22
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Or they troll us to get money and endings still won't change
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 06:33
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i guess we will have to wait and see
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 06:38
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I think a lot of people would like that, because few 'like' being forced to submit to the Reaper overlord to 'win the game', but I doubt it.
I think they're being honest when they say they're not going to change the ending, ever, and I think mods are our only hope.
I think they're being honest when they say they're not going to change the ending, ever, and I think mods are our only hope.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 06:40
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You don't submit, you simply compromise to solve the bigger problem.
Also no, conventional victory isn't possible.
Also no, conventional victory isn't possible.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 06:43
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Or..they may tease us that it MIGHT change something. But it won't Probably the only way they sell their DLC now. Look back before Omega Chris in his defense of the the DLC Said that "Omega is strong" But what we got was Cerberus pew pew. with bugs abound.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 06:43
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Multiplayer constantly adds to war assests, I start with enough war assets to finish the game.
They're more for the text that comes along with each entry.
They're more for the text that comes along with each entry.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 06:44
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It's a wonderful dream, but I fear a dream is all it is
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 06:45
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it could totally work if bioware wanted to do it though
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 06:46
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I only doubt it because I don't even think they know what they are doing anymore. If they are smart, it should be added as a thanks to people who continue to support them.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 06:50
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Bathaius wrote...
I think a lot of people would like that, because few 'like' being forced to submit to the Reaper overlord to 'win the game', but I doubt it.
I think they're being honest when they say they're not going to change the ending, ever, and I think mods are our only hope.
I think you got that backwards, from my view anyway. You effectively have them give you their terms of surrender, basically what happens in most wars, "You beat us. Here's our conditions of surrendering to you human. You win." and refuse if just you taking a treaty of surrdender and taking a dump on it, thus having them fight to the bitter end instead of allowing them to submit.
You lose this battle, but the war is lost to them, thanks to the damage this cycle did to the reapers. That's my interpretation of it at least.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 06:52
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xsdob wrote...
Bathaius wrote...
I think a lot of people would like that, because few 'like' being forced to submit to the Reaper overlord to 'win the game', but I doubt it.
I think they're being honest when they say they're not going to change the ending, ever, and I think mods are our only hope.
I think you got that backwards, from my view anyway. You effectively have them give you their terms of surrender, basically what happens in most wars, "You beat us. Here's our conditions of surrendering to you human. You win." and refuse if just you taking a treaty of surrdender and taking a dump on it, thus having them fight to the bitter end instead of allowing them to submit.
You lose this battle, but the war is lost to them, thanks to the damage this cycle did to the reapers. That's my interpretation of it at least.
That's not an interpretation. That's actually what happens in the game.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 06:56
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How is killing him submitting to him? Or overwriting his programming with your own mind? Odd definition of submission there.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 06:57
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When will people be willing to understand the simple concept that Bioware aren't going to change the endings?
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 07:49
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multiplayer .... I have over 15k EMS atm and there are a lot of people with way more out there =D I also ended the game again after leviathan dlc and nothing new happened. so sadly I think nothing will happen.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 07:55
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AlanC9 wrote...
How is killing him submitting to him? Or overwriting his programming with your own mind? Odd definition of submission there.
You assume that he's telling the truth.... I mean why would he lie? He does control the Reapers. He said it himself, he's much more than an AI, so you think you can simply reprogram him? Good luck with that.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 08:13
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I MUST HAVE ALL THE ASSETS IN THE GALAXY MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 08:26
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When a losing party surrenders:xsdob wrote...
Bathaius wrote...
I think a lot of people would like that, because few 'like' being forced to submit to the Reaper overlord to 'win the game', but I doubt it.
I think they're being honest when they say they're not going to change the ending, ever, and I think mods are our only hope.
I think you got that backwards, from my view anyway. You effectively have them give you their terms of surrender, basically what happens in most wars, "You beat us. Here's our conditions of surrendering to you human. You win." and refuse if just you taking a treaty of surrdender and taking a dump on it, thus having them fight to the bitter end instead of allowing them to submit.
You lose this battle, but the war is lost to them, thanks to the damage this cycle did to the reapers. That's my interpretation of it at least.
It does not dictate the terms of surrender.
It does not threaten you with annihilation if you don't agree to the terms of surrender.
So, which side was surrendering again in the Reaper war?
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 08:35
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Is this different than the Puzzle theory?
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 08:42
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OP, if this were to come true, I know I will jump with joy over the news. But sadly, I don't think it's gonna happen and I think BW really mean it when they say that there will be no more changes in the ending and that they are not making another Shepard in ME4 (or ME:whateveritiscalled)
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 08:52
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Festae9 wrote...
Is this different than the Puzzle theory?
It is not.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 08:56
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grey_wind wrote...
When a losing party surrenders:xsdob wrote...
Bathaius wrote...
I think a lot of people would like that, because few 'like' being forced to submit to the Reaper overlord to 'win the game', but I doubt it.
I think they're being honest when they say they're not going to change the ending, ever, and I think mods are our only hope.
I think you got that backwards, from my view anyway. You effectively have them give you their terms of surrender, basically what happens in most wars, "You beat us. Here's our conditions of surrendering to you human. You win." and refuse if just you taking a treaty of surrdender and taking a dump on it, thus having them fight to the bitter end instead of allowing them to submit.
You lose this battle, but the war is lost to them, thanks to the damage this cycle did to the reapers. That's my interpretation of it at least.
It does not dictate the terms of surrender.
It does not threaten you with annihilation if you don't agree to the terms of surrender.
So, which side was surrendering again in the Reaper war?
Seems to happen a lot throughout history, it's just that most people don't take it and op for the more savage "we don;t negotiate with the enemy route" and of course most just call it a cease fire agreement now days.
But when it gives you the options to destroy all of them completly, destroy the regime and leave the rest in tact, or agree to reforms to it's system of operation, it seems that it's a pretty clear surrender to me.
Of course you can instead choose none of those and make this war get dragged out into a longer and bloodier conflict that streches into the next cycle, who than win. So basically yes, they have effectivly surrendered and face certain destruction at the hands of the forces against them.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 09:00
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thought it rang a bell. it would be a little weird for them to drag it out this long but definitely awesome.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 09:21
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brettc893 wrote...
Festae9 wrote...
Is this different than the Puzzle theory?
It is not.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 09:31
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see my post on the IT theory thread.. Refusal is possibly the way to go. (it ties up IT and the Refusal theories nicely)
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