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theory: all the dlc being released will eventually change the refusal ending thanks to added war assets


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#26
OdanUrr

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OP, it's not going to happen because any conventional victory would subvert the entire Crucible plot and thus effectively change the story Bioware wanted to tell. They're only giving us war assets with each DLC because the system's already implemented and so as to maintain the illusion that DLC is somewhat tied to your ongoing effort to defeat the Reapers.

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Norman250

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It actually makes me a little sad that people are still clinging on to the hope that the endings will somehow get better.

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teh DRUMPf!!

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Norman250 wrote...

It actually makes me a little sad that people are still clinging on to the hope that the endings will somehow get better.


Agreed. It just reads like a desperate plea.

Fan: "You're going to give me the ending I want... right, Bioware?"

BW: -_-

Fan: "... right?" :crying:

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Brovikk Rasputin

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Not going to happen.

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LTKerr

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Keep dreaming :(

#31
dorktainian

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so when ME4 comes along everyone will buy it right?.........right? .......err......

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LTKerr wrote...

Keep dreaming :(


Quatre barres... Are you catalan?

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coldsteelblue

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War assests are added to the ending for those that don't want to play MP, but still want the golden 5,000+ assets, as for changing the ending, let me say this: Mass effect is a classic Greek Tragedy set in space!
If you want Shep to live, choose the destroy ending, I'm guessing you've all seen the breath right? Ok, enough said.

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ioannisdenton

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OdanUrr wrote...

OP, it's not going to happen because any conventional victory would subvert the entire Crucible plot and thus effectively change the story Bioware wanted to tell. They're only giving us war assets with each DLC because the system's already implemented and so as to maintain the illusion that DLC is somewhat tied to your ongoing effort to defeat the Reapers.

/thread

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Solaxe wrote...

Or they troll us to get money and endings still won't change


probably, but if this theory aka Puzzle thory is right then it´s blackmail... gg:ph34r:

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Eterna5 wrote...

You don't submit, you simply compromise to solve the bigger problem.

Also no, conventional victory isn't possible.


Using "destroy" is the same as asking the catalyst to fly all the reapers into the suns... cept the reapers are content with taking all synthetic life with them.  Its a bit silly really.  If the stargazer scene is the future (and we can asume it is) then no matter what option you pick "peace" is achieved.

All the choices make that "bigger problem" irrelevant since it doesnt seem to exist 10000 years in the future no matter what you do.

Modifié par Xellith, 04 décembre 2012 - 10:51 .


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UBER GEEKZILLA

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oh well...im fine with the ending the way it is. just think it would be interesting if they surprised everyone

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Xellith wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

You don't submit, you simply compromise to solve the bigger problem.

Also no, conventional victory isn't possible.


Using "destroy" is the same as asking the catalyst to fly all the reapers into the suns... cept the reapers are content with taking all synthetic life with them.  Its a bit silly really.  If the stargazer scene is the future (and we can asume it is) then no matter what option you pick "peace" is achieved.

All the choices make that "bigger problem" irrelevant since it doesnt seem to exist 10000 years in the future no matter what you do.

except for the fact that basically synthetic life in the galaxy boils down to the Geth population. And the Geth unfortunately have Reaper upgrades. Hence why they get Destroyed. The Reapers aren't "taking" anything with them. It's an unfortunate unforeseen circumstance to a previous event. Makes sense. Not silly at all.

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I can mod the game to give me a limitless amount of war assets. I still get a homicidal Casper and colored explosions or BioWare giving me the finger.

Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 05 décembre 2012 - 07:07 .


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Not going to happen. Too many sycophants with zero taste in games, who think the ending is the best thing since sliced bread, are dumping money into BioWare's coffers for them to even consider lowering their +5 Shield of Artistic Integrity.

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LilLino

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Femlob wrote...

Not going to happen. Too many sycophants with zero taste in games, who think the ending is the best thing since sliced bread, are dumping money into BioWare's coffers for them to even consider lowering their +5 Shield of Artistic Integrity.


Refusing and conventional victory doesn't make sense even since ME1. 

And to OP. Getting a few thousand more soldiers won't stop the reapers. We'd need hundreds of Dreadnoughts to win conventionally. We had around 100 because of the treaty of...Falixten? I don't remember the name.

And many of them were destroyed in surprise attack. 

Gunships and fighters can't engage the Reapers.

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Pretty much what the Puzzle theory is all about. Already out there TC

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Asuukuru

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The endings wount change no matter how many war assets Bioware adds. They cant change it, they ran such an aggressive campaign with the whole "artistic integrity" to mask what was simply a poorly made and inferior product. If they were to change the endings at any point, then they would be admitting that the ending was so poorly written there was a need for it to be re written, which will never happen. Also, it costs money, which is something Bioware is not going to spend on changing an ending that would bring back the huge controversy they had to deal with when the game released, a controversy that 9 months later is still being talked about. Endings are one of those parts of a story that are so important and pivotal, that they cant really be changed once people have seen them. The 3, arguably 4 endings are already established as endings, nothing can change that.

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This is a great idea that is doomed to nonexistence by the fact that Bioware would have to be halfway intelligent and care more about their product than their ego to implement it.

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So puzzle theory

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Eterna5 wrote...
You don't submit, you simply compromise to solve the bigger problem...


The "bigger problem"?  What "bigger problem" are we talking about here?

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Sejborg

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No. The reapers are too powerful!

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Eterna5 wrote...

You don't submit, you simply compromise to solve the bigger problem.

Also no, conventional victory isn't possible.


So you fall for the Catalyst's "Since you're the first organic to get here, you've proven my solution won't work anymore, we need to find a new solution" crap? If you've played the Leviathan DLC, the Leviathan hints that the Catalyst knows exactly what it wants (Synthesis), that "you're the first organic, you've altered the variables" crap is all just an act, and that holographic brat knows the Crucible like the back of its hand, and what does that mean? You've unwittingly submitted to that holographic piece of ****.

Don't count your chickens yet. We'll know whether its impssible or not when we get our hands on the last SP DLC.

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Solaxe wrote...

Or they troll us to get money and endings still won't change


Bioware already said they aren't changing the endings again. Any notion that the DLC will is purely player speculation. Though I admittedly am one of the first people to have this notion.

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the people who already bought the DLCs are most likely going to buy whatever other DLCs come out too. the question that bioware needs to solve is how will PEOPLE LIKE ME buy the DLC.

this theory is one way.

actually its not, ive already got plenty of EMS regarldess of ME3s DLCs. and you cant make the refuse ending a success buy just having the leviathon DLC. it couldnt sell that way, bioware should be aware of how observant its fans(old fans) are.

Modifié par The Spamming Troll, 06 décembre 2012 - 01:15 .