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Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening expansion pack. OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION & discussion *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*


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So I'm the only one who managed to kill Oghren?



REALLY?

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ITTigerClawIK wrote...

i was REALLY praying for Morrigan to come back i mean with the ring and all


Yes, dumping her would be kind of a waste of useful resources. 

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Hello everone just saw a short new tralier for Awakening called the Queen of the Blackmarsh Trailer and it shows what i think is oghren at 00:11 makes sense since he is one of the few people u can't die in Dragon Age here is the link enjoy hope not a repost.



http://www.gamespot....ckmarsh-trailer

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Any dwarf with the alistar hair cut and a beard isn't oghren let's not get ahead of ourselves.

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Ok 2 points:



First, Zevran mentioned a black marsh witch of the wilds in Orlais during one of the party banter dialogues with Morrigan.



Second, the 'purple guy' giving prophesies might be one of the supposedly original Tevinter magisters who entered the black city creating the blight.

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Strykzilla wrote...

Any dwarf with the alistar hair cut and a beard isn't oghren let's not get ahead of ourselves.


He had the exact same hair style color and face unless he had a twin i say it was him in this tralier u get a clear look at his face at 00: 11 

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But then at 0:15 the dwarf has disappeared and been replaced by some dude with red armor and a topknot!



The message of this trailer is that Oghren was eaten by a mist dragon and replaced!



I am hoping?



...



Dang.

#2633
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"We need more of the Fade..."

Disagree completely.

As someone mentioned already the Fade sucked and the only thing I liked out of it was the permanent bonus to stats. If you're going to have something like that you need to make it worth going to. If the Fade is this great place of "evil" aka hell, then I want to kill a god!

Another improvement I would like to see in the DA is loot, or better yet a quest for and "uber" sword or staff. I was incredibly disappointed that I basically got crap for killing a dragon. I expected more. I remember killing a red dragon in one of those D&D games that BioWare put out years ago and you got the "Holy Avenger" which was an incredible sword.

I want my uber sword, not some junk that I can sell to a vendor!

AS far as the AI goes, well it can always be better but to be honest I had the most issues with mages in this game. The funny thing is, and it was in the Fade of all places, depending on what shape I was the mages countered effectively. I was impressed by this.

Looking back to BG and some of those games what made them great was the exploration, the items, the real "basicness" of the adventure, but it was an adventure. You got to tackle the "thieves guild" or a wild dungeon.

One of the most memorable things out of all of the games I ever played that I frequently remember was WAY back in the first gold box game Pool of Radiance.....the grave yard. Undead just creep me out, always have. The Fade reminded me of of those stupid towers you had to go up in Oblivion. It got old real fast and I thought it was a bad hack job to be honest. Again, give me a god and it's loot if you're going to do that.

Crafting: make it worth the while. The "enchantment" thing was silly. Add armor/smithing and make it worth it.

The basic things make a RPG: exploration, loot, bosses, then story. I like a good storyline, but lets be honest. When you're taking on a dragon are you really thinking about storyline?

You know last summer I went back and played some of those gold box games and they STILL hold up even with the stinky graphics. Why? Everything I mentioned above.
 
- Ray

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rmcazz2010 wrote...


The basic things make a RPG: exploration, loot, bosses, then story. I like a good storyline, but lets be honest. When you're taking on a dragon are you really thinking about storyline?


I disagree. A story can make a game. I seem to be in the minority here but loot is the last thing I really care about. It's story first and then fights and explorations. Without a decent story the game wont keep my attention.

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Is Awakening getting released in March also in the UK? I had read somewhere that there was doubt about this, also my mum is manager of a game store and she's not got any record of it, yet at least.

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Something kinda interesting, supposedly both a GameCrazy and a Game Stop in St. Louis a couple weeks back, were selling Dragon Age: Awakening, the employees at the stores said they knew they weren't supposed to sell it, but it got put with the stuff to shelf, and none of the managers cared. I thought I was being lied to, at first and went to my local GameStop to see if they had it, unfortunately not, though apparently that kinda thing happens a lot more than I would have guessed, and the manager there said the only thing weird was how early it was. With the DA verification stuff I do wonder what would happen if someone tried to play it. Anyone else hear about this happening?

Note: I wasn't there personally, so I could have been lied to but it doesn't seem like it from the people I've heard from. I want to know if anyone else has come across this for Awakening.

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ITTigerClawIK wrote...
i was REALLY praying for Morrigan to come back i mean with the ring and all and all the mysterius " you must not try to find me" i mean you have to bump into her "by accident" surely... especuly if you did romance her


She could still be back, its rather unlikely she will be back as a companion, but there might be a good chance she comes back as a cameo or some reference to her.
On another forum topic someone stated that the Architect apparantly hunts old gods, so considering you took the ritual route and Morrigans child did get the soul of an old god the child could be in danger and she might come to you for help.

At the very least I hope they will lift a tiny bit of the veil of mystery around what the current situation is or give us a glimpse of more information as a cliffhanger so we can come up with even more theories about her. :)

The chances of her being the returning companion in this expansion are rather slim, especially considering dog and Oghren are much easier choices since they have no special connection to any player. But we will see, for all we know she might be the returning companion and perhaps even the center of the story all we can do is wait and see! :)

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rmcazz2010 wrote...

The basic things make a RPG: exploration, loot, bosses, then story. I like a good storyline, but lets be honest. When you're taking on a dragon are you really thinking about storyline?


Well.. If you had me as master in a RPG game session then you would be really bored for sure... The difference beetwen a RPG Game and an Arcade Game are 

1- Storyline
2 - Character's Personality implementation  

Posioned wrote...

I disagree. A story can make a game. I seem to be in the minority here but loot is the last thing I really care about. It's story first and then fights and explorations. Without a decent story the game wont keep my attention.


No... You are not alone... Many people here agree with you...

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MaxQuartiroli wrote...

Posioned wrote...

I disagree. A story can make a game. I seem to be in the minority here but loot is the last thing I really care about. It's story first and then fights and explorations. Without a decent story the game wont keep my attention.


No... You are not alone... Many people here agree with you...


Yup I agree as well. I've always compared RPG games with old adventure games or interactive books... The story is what the game is about, and its the main thing that almost all MMORPGs lack. The fighting etc is important too of course, but only to strengthen the story.

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Count me in as not understanding the importance of loot at all. In fact, I never remember to upgrade my equipment -- my roommate was watching me play and he was all "Why are you still using iron weapons when you have steel in your inventory?" But I like it when the fights have a bit of challenge to them.

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sonlockdon wrote...

Upper_Krust wrote...

ben hodgson92 wrote...

that trailer is really appalling... not just the oghren thing, but i mean its just crap... though to be honest, i dont really mind that its oghren, would have preferred another companion but it shall do


You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but personally I thought the trailer was terrific, really whetted my appetite for the game.


it was alight


Actually I had typed my previous response before noticing there was a new video (which I presume is the one Ben was initially addressing?)

I admit its pretty short and doesn't show us anything new, so its a tad disappointing. I do REALLY like the Lady of the Black Marshes design though (is it the Spectral Dragon...possibly). Looks great.

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rmcazz2010 wrote...


"We need more of the Fade..."


- Ray


No....no...no.:pinched:

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Ferret A Baudoin

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Awakening isn't at any stores anywhere yet, ClonePatrol. So that's just a mistaken rumor.

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question. Why does the xbox 360 version of awakenings need an internet connection to play - the original did not and if I am buying it at the store then I am getting a disk, not downloading it.

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Damn i was hoping to be able to keep Leliana around with my Dailish elf, and to be able to hunt Morragin Down with my Evil Mage of Awesomeness since she was basically the only thing he cared about

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As I've been following this thread I'm compelled to quote part of my (phauxxee) GameSpot review of DAO..." By far THE most advanced game play for an RPG I've ever come across. Felt like I was part in an epic movie! "

Without the solid story to propel me along to play 2 consecutive games in 2 weeks I would still have enjoyed it, but I would have shelved it after I finished my first game.

One more thought;
I'm pretty sure Alistair comes back. He appears in one of the trailers saying something about 'looking forward to the whole dark spawn thing again', which I hope is true.

Both Alistair and my female elf did not die after slaying the dragon. After relinquishing his right to be King to Anora he mentions in the ending scene that we would continue to be together, and Queen Anora who announces that my now Hero Character shall, with other Grey Wardens, continue the work for the Grey Wardens at Warden's Keep.

All in all, I honestly think this IS the best of both RPG gaming, a solid tactical game moved along by a fluid story line that carries it farther than any PRG I have ever played!

Modifié par allura, 29 janvier 2010 - 05:48 .


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Please, don't forget that it's been said that awakening isn't the only expansion we'll see, so there is plenty of time to bring back Alistair/Sten/Wynne/Shale/Oghren/Morrigan/Zevran/Dog/Leliana..



So if your favorite character isn't playable companion in awakening, that doesn't mean he/she is thrown away...

#2648
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Hey all! Image IPB

Its interesting to note that the favourite companion poll shows us a few things.

1. The Top three are the young and attractive characters.
2. The top three are the first three (humanoid) companions you get to keep over the course of the game.
3. The top three are all humans.
4. Each of the top three comes from a different class.

Note that from what we know of Awakenings, you will have six total companions to choose from. If we have two mages, two warriors and two rogues (hypothetically), then you could have two completely distinct parties with all bases covered.

In the first game, of the 8 companions, half are human and there is one each of the other races (and one dog).

I wonder if we will see a similar breakdown for Awakening?

If starting to think that the blonde haired female mage could be an elf mage, suggesting...

Female Elf Mage
Female Qunari Rogue
Male (or Female) Human Rogue
Male Human Warrior
Male Human Mage
Male Dwarf Warrior (Oghren)

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KneeTheCap wrote...

Please, don't forget that it's been said that awakening isn't the only expansion we'll see, so there is plenty of time to bring back Alistair/Sten/Wynne/Shale/Oghren/Morrigan/Zevran/Dog/Leliana..

So if your favorite character isn't playable companion in awakening, that doesn't mean he/she is thrown away...


Maybe... But doing this you will only postpone problems, even if you don't get worse problem!!

In awakening what will you do? Will you remain faithful to your beloved? Or will you cheat him/her ?! So in a 2nd expansion not only you have the problem to implement the end of DAO but also if you still love him/her... Too difficult to manage... They have to choose NOW what they want to do with them...

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I loved Morrigan, but..... My conclusion is she will come back in the future as the evil antagonist. She will be the new and worse Flemith....