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[shedevil3001]

no its cookies remember lol

[shedevil3001]

nope i didnt, take it i missed something again, rats i thought i'd done everything

[krasnoarmeets]

I agree with sami jo's comment on dlcs being extremely light on story. While I do like the soldier's peak story it does need to be expanded upon in my opinion and I personally don't really like the superman reference in it (I also think the star wars reference in origins is pretty random). I do love the way the warden commander armour looks.



The blood powers from Avernus are mostly cool and even if you are playing a goody goody warden it does make sense to drink the potion cuz if you don't then essentially those wardens gave up their lives to no purpose, making their deaths senseless. Plus the Wardens do whatever it takes to win. I know the intention is against the blight, but there seems to be a definite link between the darkspawn, demons and the fade at any rate.

I personally think that no amount of 'handwaving' is acceptable in this situation, especially when story and player choices are supposed to be paramount.



I'm not impressed at the suggestion that there will be some degree of it in awakening.

[Bratt1204]

sami jo wrote...

Edit: Supid formatting
Gaider has said that our PC's choices, including romances, will be "acknowledged" in some way.  I understand the financial and practical issues with catering to every possible decision in DA:O in the expansion.  That sort of thing was more possible in all of the old games such as BG because the voice acting wasn't an issue.  Writers could make much larger stories with more possible outcomes when all the dialogue didn't need to be voiced.  So yes, I understand it, and I'm sure there will be some story handwaving to explain it.  Some are easier than others to handwave, but it's doable for what is essentially a side mission.  It may be as simple as saying that your PC went ahead to prepare the keep and found him/herself with a much larger job than s/he anticipated.  This isn't putting story first, as Bioware keeps claiming they do.  It's caving to reality and handwaving the story to fit so that the franchise can continue.  I'd rather have a nice big chunk of new story than get my knickers in a twist about it, or I will at least wait to get my knickers in a twist until I know just how well the handwaving is done. 

So, they will "acknowledge" my PC's choices in some way; unless of course you played any DLC, including the DLC that shipped free with new games.  So now my character hallucinated Shale and Avernus?  Am I going to unlearn the abilities Avernus taught me, or just lose all the items?  The two characters I have finished the game with along with their parties are pretty well decked out in DLC items, not because I'm a power gamer, but because it made the most sense in-character.  Why wouldn't I put Allistair in Cailin's armor when I'm trying to put him on the throne?  It isn't all that great as armor goes, but appearances matter and I wanted to put him on the throne.  No, I didn't purchase the DLC just for the items, but the entire RtO quest was to get those items.  That was the story!  The tiny amount of additional backstory outside of the items could have been covered in a conversation or two.

Now I am having to metagame my remaining characters if I want to import them into this expansion with something more than their underwear.  My characters would use some of the items.  These are items, not fully voiced characters.  If Bioware put so much anti-theft protection on the items that even they can't use them, it doesn't exactly speak well of their programming ability.  I'm being penalized for spending extra money.  It doesn't make sense to effectively shrink their market for future DLC either.

It's disappointing.  I expect better from Bioware because they have historically been better.  All the DLC with the exception of Stone Prisoner, which was originally part of the main game, has been extremely light on story.  They are the ones who set the expectation that story line would be paramount.  It's still a good game.  These sorts of decisions combined with the mountains of unfixed, potentially game-breaking, glitches are keeping it from being the truly amazing game it could be. 

Acknowledged? Yes, obviously my PC will be the only one in Awakening that will be aware that she married Alistair and became Queen. Apparently, Alistair will be unaware.

[shedevil3001]

not from what i can gather he will aknowledge it but theres no furthering the romance in awakening

[krasnoarmeets]

shedevil3001 wrote...

big flashy with an awkward alistair fumbling all over his words lol and if anora is the blushing bride it will be more of following orders rather than a wedding lol

Except if you 'harden' Alistair in game which essentially makes him a strong King if you choose to put him on the throne.
Hardening Alistair is one thing my girl elf assassin did, telling him a King can do whatever he likes when he tried to break it off with her (thereby preserving the romance). If you don't harden him, he wimps out citing duty to produce an heir yadah yadah yadah.

Modifié par krasnoarmeets, 17 février 2010 - 01:59 .

[shedevil3001]

yer i noticed my first time play through i was propper gutted

[krasnoarmeets]

shedevil3001 wrote...

not from what i can gather he will aknowledge it but theres no furthering the romance in awakening

If you married Alistair and became Queen what's there to further anyway? Would you like some crumpet on the side? Have a bust-up and then great make-up sex? I suppose there are some options there...

Modifié par krasnoarmeets, 17 février 2010 - 02:05 .

[shedevil3001]

well in the dialogue at the end it says that we rule together defeat the darkspawn and never leave eachothers side so they could have alot of adventures together

[krasnoarmeets]

true, although the issue with reflecting all player choices is that they'd have to make the returning companion fluid rather than restrict it to one character. I really don't like Oghren, personally.

In my opinion it would be a good idea to keep the romanced character present at the very least, especially given that some of the end choices state that they never leave your side.

So Alistair never leaves your side, but, all the same, Alistair still somehow manages to remain apart from you for however many months it takes you to follow and complete the awakening timeline. That's a bit inconsistent with the choices made by the player isnt it?

My girly elf assassin for instance decided to stay and serve the crown given that she put her man on the throne. The royal assassin, as it were, lol.

[shedevil3001]

lol mines a human noble with gorgeous hair and a rather cool armour that wont cross over into awakening so i might be a bald naked noble queen who cant get none from her betrothed wow i'm a lousy wife cant keep alistair happy no wonder he aint at my side

[krasnoarmeets]

Lol, mine's in sexy Dalish armour showing off her trim midriff, although she's wearing the boots from Shale's thaig, so she may end up barefoot, but not pregnant...

Hmm, come to think of it, helmet of Honleath there too, but shouldn't end up bald.

Standard bob-type hairdo, but with all the braids.

Hmm, I foresee that lack of sex making her even more temperamental than usual...

Seriously though she was so not interested in Zevran - no telling what you might catch if you go down that road... eww

[shedevil3001]

oh crap i thought my noble was feeling unwell lol

[krasnoarmeets]

Speaking of pregnant, I wonder how the offspring of two grey wardens would turn out? What about a half-tainted child?
I admit I had a bit of a laugh when I first noticed in the love scenes that the females have a bit of a camel-toe going on down there...and yet there are no tell-tale 'sock' bulges on the males. :innocent:

Modifié par krasnoarmeets, 17 février 2010 - 02:56 .

[shedevil3001]

lol i wasn't looking honest

[Bratt1204]

[quote]krasnoarmeets wrote...

[quote]shedevil3001 wrote...

 Have a bust-up and then great make-up sex? 

[/quote]

Of course.

[shedevil3001]

lol wasnt me who wrote that but was thinkin it

[krasnoarmeets]

shedevil3001 wrote...

well in the dialogue at the end it says that we rule together defeat the darkspawn and never leave eachothers side so they could have alot of adventures together

See, that's what's so rant-worthy about this exp! Alistair never leaving your side according to the happy ending and yet he will apparently go ahead and leave your side for awakening... GAH!

[Cristelkaa]

krasnoarmeets wrote...

Speaking of pregnant, I wonder how the offspring of two grey wardens would turn out? What about a half-tainted child?
I admit I had a bit of a laugh when I first noticed in the love scenes that the females have a bit of a camel-toe going on down there...and yet there are no tell-tale 'sock' bulges on the males. :innocent:

Would it not be interesting if a child of 2 grey wardens would inherit their ability to sense the dark spawn but not be doomed to die at a young age? Maybe even have additional abilities? As I said an interesting thought…

[Dawnielle]

Bratt1204 wrote...

sami jo wrote...

Edit: Supid formatting
Gaider has said that our PC's choices, including romances, will be "acknowledged" in some way.  I understand the financial and practical issues with catering to every possible decision in DA:O in the expansion.  That sort of thing was more possible in all of the old games such as BG because the voice acting wasn't an issue.  Writers could make much larger stories with more possible outcomes when all the dialogue didn't need to be voiced.  So yes, I understand it, and I'm sure there will be some story handwaving to explain it.  Some are easier than others to handwave, but it's doable for what is essentially a side mission.  It may be as simple as saying that your PC went ahead to prepare the keep and found him/herself with a much larger job than s/he anticipated.  This isn't putting story first, as Bioware keeps claiming they do.  It's caving to reality and handwaving the story to fit so that the franchise can continue.  I'd rather have a nice big chunk of new story than get my knickers in a twist about it, or I will at least wait to get my knickers in a twist until I know just how well the handwaving is done. 

So, they will "acknowledge" my PC's choices in some way; unless of course you played any DLC, including the DLC that shipped free with new games.  So now my character hallucinated Shale and Avernus?  Am I going to unlearn the abilities Avernus taught me, or just lose all the items?  The two characters I have finished the game with along with their parties are pretty well decked out in DLC items, not because I'm a power gamer, but because it made the most sense in-character.  Why wouldn't I put Allistair in Cailin's armor when I'm trying to put him on the throne?  It isn't all that great as armor goes, but appearances matter and I wanted to put him on the throne.  No, I didn't purchase the DLC just for the items, but the entire RtO quest was to get those items.  That was the story!  The tiny amount of additional backstory outside of the items could have been covered in a conversation or two.

Now I am having to metagame my remaining characters if I want to import them into this expansion with something more than their underwear.  My characters would use some of the items.  These are items, not fully voiced characters.  If Bioware put so much anti-theft protection on the items that even they can't use them, it doesn't exactly speak well of their programming ability.  I'm being penalized for spending extra money.  It doesn't make sense to effectively shrink their market for future DLC either.

It's disappointing.  I expect better from Bioware because they have historically been better.  All the DLC with the exception of Stone Prisoner, which was originally part of the main game, has been extremely light on story.  They are the ones who set the expectation that story line would be paramount.  It's still a good game.  These sorts of decisions combined with the mountains of unfixed, potentially game-breaking, glitches are keeping it from being the truly amazing game it could be. 

Acknowledged? Yes, obviously my PC will be the only one in Awakening that will be aware that she married Alistair and became Queen. Apparently, Alistair will be unaware.

Just ALL what i was thinking. And hell, where is my DOG? Did they just un-imprint him?

[Dawnielle]

Gosh... Beware... Venting Below.
After reading FAQ, I am soooo disapointed about:
1. Where the hell is my DOG? How do they get around imprinting? Wow, what a loss.
2. No romance carryover? Wow. What was the point then? All three of my females ended up with Alistair. With him on the throne, and without..
3. Oghren? Please. How annoying. Sten is so much deeper.
4. If we couldnt carry over items from Origins and DLC then what is the point? I made everything fit in my backpack, and took it all out of he Keep, to prepare for the expansion. Not cool.
5. This is an EXPANSION not a NEW GAME, meaning to "expand" on the story as it was.

Although DAO was a GREAT game, I played it for the interaction with some key NPC's in my party, the dialogue, etc. I am on my 4th playthrough. I however do not know, if taking away what I LOVED about DAO will entice me enough to spend the money. Not having my Dog or Alistair will upset me very much. I made my choices so my expansion would MAKE SENSE. This is a major disapointment. If I wanted to play a regular RPG I would.

Wow, so disapointed. I don't think its too much to ask for CARRYOVER, in an expansion. Meaning Carryover of PC's choices (romance and otherwise) PC's pet, PC's items...

And one thing, that DAO never had, I would LOVE to have a real BASE or HOME. (Found myself thinking if I go to the Keep 20 times a day why can't I sleep there)!
Thats what I loved about some other games.. A place to store everything. But this in comparision to the above is just an afterthought. A very minor gripe...

I am by no means a hardcore Gamer, but DAO has me playing on my 4th playthrough. No matter all the glitches or etc

"Acknowledged? Yes, obviously my PC will be the only one in Awakening that will be aware that she married Alistair and became Queen. Apparently, Alistair will be unaware"...

"Hell, where is my DOG? Did they just un-imprint him"?

"Sad Whining"-
.

Modifié par Dawnielle, 17 février 2010 - 11:11 .

[shedevil3001]

alistair wynne and logain are potential companions depending on decions in dao

[shedevil3001]

and the romance hasnt ended it just doesnt give you any options to go any further with new romances or keep going with old ones but it doesnt get rid of them altogether as far as i can gather