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[Ryldaun]

To bad the orlesian will be restricted to the expansion content, could have been nice enough for another walkthrough, but this way i rather use one of my old characters. Also worried about the "one" old favorite part, but otherwise everything sounds very nice.

[Volourn]

"They don't remove content either. I can't remember any expansion where I had less characters to choose from...it's typical to see X from original plus Y from new the game."



Yeah. Must explain SOU, HOTU, MOTB, and SOZ. LMAO

[SinYang]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...
From everything I've read it is a true expansion. Requires the original game, can use your current character and it extends their story, or create a new one and begin their story. Not sure what else you were looking for.
The press release states that you can either "import" your old character or start a new one. It also mentions that only one old companion returns. If it was a true expansion then there was no need to import your old character and all old companions would be available.

In the good old days when expansions got love. These days an expansion is another word for quickcash in, Having Oghren as old returning npc is easiest, hes a simple character to write for. very simple. The drunken dwarf stereo type.

The import your old character *bit* is a sales gimmick, unless you really believe they are going to explain away 10 npcs in death cameos or codexes. For proof see BG series transition, Shar-Teel, Sky, Eldoth were never mentioned again in the sequel.

Slightly more ahead - NWN1 oc to Shadows lost everything, lets not go into NWN1 to NWN2 transitions which wasnt even made by bioware barely referencing the first game at all. Any reference in there was flawed.

*Fixing something that isnt broke*

Oh yeah, I dont recall any complaints about how bad the npc interaction was in Origins why the need for 5 new characters? sales gimmick number02. NEW NPCS!!!!!!

Did EA hand Bioware the rule book for gimmicks? seems so.

Please someone tell me when games companies realise the true meanings of Expansion, Sequel & Series. But its all okay theres still plenty of dumb players about that you can sell anything too, that will make up excuses why something cant be done.

After all, building 5 new npcs and hiring new voice overs for them is alot more work/money, than bring in old ones that are already made and just need additional dialogue/voicing added...

Modifié par SinYang, 06 janvier 2010 - 07:37 .

[Tellervo]

Let me reiterate the hope that, if you only get to keep one companion, you get to pick which one it is. I sincerely hope that, if otherwise, the expansion takes at least some aspects of your ending into account. It seems very, very silly to let you spend hours of time getting invested in these characters, then when the expansion comes out you're SOL.

If enough people say it, maybe it will happen. Until I hear it is so, however, I am assuming that the dog is the returning companion, and as much as I love the dog, I'm kind of uninterested at that point.  I'll be content to assume my PCs ride off into the sunset, unless I hear something jaw-droppingly awesome about the expansion.

Modifié par Tellervo, 06 janvier 2010 - 06:35 .

[Risselda]

I think people are getting a bit too "jumpy to conclusiony."

Bioware is a company. Companies like to make money. The better the product, the more money they recieve. They probably know what the majority of the fans want. If they see "Hey...I R want -enter companion name here-" many times...I am more than sure they will consider it. It's good business.


Not to mention, I believe...though I am not sure if I am scared to believe...that if they made an Alistar plushie, they would gross more money than releasing one of the downloadable contents. Knowing this, I  do not think they would eliminate him as a companion option. Same for Leliana and Zevhran. These guys are *part* of the appeal of this game.

Thing is, if they do "leave out" these guys as options, I personally believe that though they will make a ton of money in the initial sales, any subsequent content will not gross as much, for as you can see from reading a fraction of this thread, too many fans would lose interest.


Look what happened to the once immortal game chain Final Fantasy. I remember waiting on the edge of my seat near the release of a new one, buying it the day it came out and playing it through over and over. They made a drastic change, left out fans that were more attached to the original charms and do not have the player base they once had. They lost customers...a lot of customers...and money. There are still people that play it, yes, but the crowd would be much larger if they kept the die hards in mind.

Ack...de-railed and ranting! My apologies!

Thus said, unless we can call Bioware Blizzardware, I do not believe they will let us Alistar-Leliana-Zevhran fans down, but will also appeal to those that do want a change. Two birds with one stone, satisfying most customers.


Iunno...I'll start to freak out when they release more. If I dont like it, I wont buy it. No big deal.

Modifié par Risselda, 06 janvier 2010 - 06:46 .

[shark1027]

I just got done watching the trailer and i am SO very happy to know that Alistair will be playing a role in the expansion... but i was just curious (and forgive me if this question was already asked or answered before)



*spoilers*



in the trailer it seemed as though Alistair was portrayed as the king... but what if, in your origins, you had him die or made him NOT king (etc.)

would he still automatically be portrayed as king no matter what??... and if he is, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of importing your character.....



*end spoiler*



again sorry if my questions had already been asked, i'm just far to tired to sift through and read 30 pages of posts :[

[Risselda]

shark1027 wrote...

I just got done watching the trailer and i am SO very happy to know that Alistair will be playing a role in the expansion... but i was just curious (and forgive me if this question was already asked or answered before)

*spoilers*

in the trailer it seemed as though Alistair was portrayed as the king... but what if, in your origins, you had him die or made him NOT king (etc.)
would he still automatically be portrayed as king no matter what??... and if he is, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of importing your character.....

*end spoiler*

again sorry if my questions had already been asked, i'm just far to tired to sift through and read 30 pages of posts :[

Nothing official to my knowledge has been released upon the answer to that question.

It is highly hypothesized, however, that that is simply one opening of many.

[Tahleron1]

Amagoi wrote...

I know I'm defiantly buying this. I'm very glad there will be an expansion that works regardless of the player's choices in the first game. Kind of silly I'm most excited for the Architect. I can't wait for more information!

I've heard the Wachowski brothers are requesting their villain be returned.... :innocent:

[AngryFrozenWater]

TheMadCat wrote...

Doesn't make any sense to me but ok. So to you Mask of the Betrayer wasn't a true expansion because your old companions weren't there?

A true expansion would expand the game and not limit it. In a true expansion there is no need to import your old character, because it is an integral part of the old game. This feels like a standalone executable.

[SwordsmanofShadow]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

Doesn't make any sense to me but ok. So to you Mask of the Betrayer wasn't a true expansion because your old companions weren't there?

A true expansion would expand the game and not limit it. In a true expansion there is no need to import your old character, because it is an integral part of the old game. This feels like a standalone executable.

The game requires Origins to play, and you need to beat the game to access Awakening. So in that respect, it IS a true expansion. The problem probably lies in how it is being worded- they market it like a sequel (probably everyone still stuck on Mass Effect 2) rather than an expansion.

Modifié par SwordsmanofShadow, 06 janvier 2010 - 07:01 .

[shark1027]

Risselda wrote...

Nothing official to my knowledge has been released upon the answer to that question.

It is highly hypothesized, however, that that is simply one opening of many.

yeah, probably should have known it was too early to ask
but, i have to admit, i am hoping that the expansion will be able to honor some of the major decisions held in the original game! (that would most certainly make it a must buy for me~)
thanks for repling btw

[Ravenous Geese]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

A true expansion would expand the game and not limit it. In a true expansion there is no need to import your old character, because it is an integral part of the old game. This feels like a standalone executable.

I disagree. A 'true expansion' in my view relates to the base game but provides a new story arc. Mask of the Betrayer is a really good example of this, great expansion!

[djfayt]

Tahleron1 wrote...

Amagoi wrote...

I know I'm defiantly buying this. I'm very glad there will be an expansion that works regardless of the player's choices in the first game. Kind of silly I'm most excited for the Architect. I can't wait for more information!

I've heard the Wachowski brothers are requesting their villain be returned.... :innocent:

Good thing for the Wachowski brothers that they didn't get sued for stealing the first Matrix movie plot from an anime.  Thats why the other two were rushed and sucked I guess they didn't have time to plagiarize more content. 

Very happy about the expansion though!

[AngryFrozenWater]

SwordsmanofShadow wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

Doesn't make any sense to me but ok. So to you Mask of the Betrayer wasn't a true expansion because your old companions weren't there?

A true expansion would expand the game and not limit it. In a true expansion there is no need to import your old character, because it is an integral part of the old game. This feels like a standalone executable.

The game requires Origins to play, and you need to beat the game to access Awakening. So in that respect, it IS a true expansion. The problem probably lies in how it is being worded- they market it like a sequel (probably everyone still stuck on Mass Effect 2) rather than an expansion.

Look at the title of this thread. It is brought as an expansion. Like I said earlier, I can live with a standalone game, but I don't consider this an expansion. Thinking about it some more... What happens to the DLCs and mods?

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 06 janvier 2010 - 07:05 .

[SwordsmanofShadow]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Look at the title of this thread. It is brought as an expansion. Like I said earlier, I can live with a standalone game, but I don't consider this an expansion. Thinking about it some more... What happens to the DLCs and mods?

I wasn't talking about the title of the thread, but rather all of the previews of it- including the EA press statement. The way they word it makes it sound like it's a sequel and not an expansion. Look at the facts:

To play this game, you MUST have Origins.

You MUST have beaten Origins, as the game takes place after the main storyline.

Think of it as a Shivering Isles for Dragon Age, only it continues the main story.

[AngryFrozenWater]

SwordsmanofShadow wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Look at the title of this thread. It is brought as an expansion. Like I said earlier, I can live with a standalone game, but I don't consider this an expansion. Thinking about it some more... What happens to the DLCs and mods?

I wasn't talking about the title of the thread, but rather all of the previews of it- including the EA press statement. The way they word it makes it sound like it's a sequel and not an expansion. Look at the facts:

To play this game, you MUST have Origins.

You MUST have beaten Origins, as the game takes place after the main storyline.

Think of it as a Shivering Isles for Dragon Age, only it continues the main story.

I was looking at the facts. The "sequel" is allowed to be executed after the main quest ends. That doesn't mean anything. Look at Shale... That character and its quest expands the game and becomes an integral part of it. The "expansion" on the other hand does not allow your old companions (except one) to be there. Assume Leliana is the one not returning in the game, then that wouldn't make sense for some players. In the epilogue and in the events leading to the final you would know partially how her life ends. Let's hope she doesn't get a cameo. It's hard to be more explicite, because it would involve spoliers.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 06 janvier 2010 - 07:37 .

[blade-rpg]

i would go with all of them being able to be in the party but can only have one at a time



i mean it is a game that your responces and actions tell the story one way and if you play it again and do stuff diffrently it is another

[TheMadCat]

Just because they're not in your party Angry doesn't mean they can't play a vital role in the story. Like I said earlier this is not a long game, you can bring back characters like Alistair, Leliana, and Zev without putting them in your party and still build your relationships with them and give them important parts on the side. Weather that's the actual case I don't know, but it can be done.

[Fangirl17]

I will gladly pay $40. Dont listen to any of these haters Bioware.I am very grateful that you guys are doing this.

[big_billy_bagel]

I think it would be nice to have the Leliana (and others) option, but can understand the difficulty incorporating it into the expansion pack.

Maybe there is an idea to use some of the characters in the true sequel.....?

Anyway I can't wait for SOMETHING, ANYTHING to appear soon - I feel like a kid waiting for Santa!

Modifié par big_billy_bagel, 06 janvier 2010 - 07:50 .

[SwordsmanofShadow]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

I was looking at the facts. The "sequel" is allowed to be executed after the main quest ends. That doesn't mean anything. Look at Shale... That character and its quest expands the game and becomes an integral part of it. The "expansion" on the other hand does not allow your old companions (except one) to be there. Assume Leliana is the one not returning in the game, then that wouldn't make sense for some players. In the epilogue and in the events leading to the final you would know partially how her life ends. Let's hope she doesn't get a cameo. It's hard to be more explicite, because it would involve spoliers.

As David Pointed out in another thread, one of the reasons our companions aren't there in the copacity we want is due to time/budget/manpower constraints. Besides, it isn't difficult to assume that your compainions may have interests outside of the Warden. Maybe they're away on assignment during Awakening and will be back for a different expansion pack.

The point of this Expansion pack seems to be a set up for future sequels (motivation of the Darkspawn and their ability to evolve). 

[hangmans tree]

Archdemon, Archmage etc.
now Architect. Why everything has to be arch or grand? Why not "Bob"?
:]
I am wondering if there will be face customization available for the imported character? Can we change looks of the imported pc, and what about the gear? Will we retain everything we had, or will my pc wake up in the dark wearing a ceremonial suit  hearing "Alas poor Warden, I knew him well..." somewhere above?
I really hope my swords are where I left them, otherwise some heads will roll!

Maybe its too soon but will we be answered in this thread with some dev comments?

[fantasypisces]

One question I was wondering, I know our gear and backpacks (but not Soldier's Peak Chest) will carry over. But then will we get the gear that our companions were wearing put into our backpacks? Since they aren't coming back? I spent a lot of money on some of that stuff



Then second question. Will all further DLC stuff take place after the expansion? Therefore, we will be losing our current companions until a sequel comes out? Wow, I would be so freaking sad. Please don't make me sad Bioware. Me needs my Leliana! She keeps my human noble sane... (yeah, the one who hears voices keeps him sane, I know I know, but it's true)!

[TheRoaring]

"Encounter five all-new party members and an old favorite from Dragon Age: Origins"-http://dragonage.bioware.com/awakening

I really hope its Morrigan<3:wub:

Modifié par TheRoaring, 06 janvier 2010 - 08:18 .