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Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening expansion pack. OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION & discussion *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*


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striece

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well it would be nice to be able to bring my sacrificed character back from the dead but if i had to choose a new grey warden so be it

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Silent Oblivion

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I really hope Morrigan is going to stick, being my favourite character throughout, and finishing her side romance quest makes me want her in the expansion even more.



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striece

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well it would be nice to be able to bring my sacrificed character back from the dead but if i had to choose a new grey warden so be it

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Silent Oblivion wrote...

I really hope Morrigan is going to stick, being my favourite character throughout, and finishing her side romance quest makes me want her in the expansion even more.

Please D=


same here

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i do agree about morrigan, she was my favorite character as well, reminds me of my wife

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we are just gonna have to wait and see when it comes out, im pretty excited about the expansion, this game was one of the best i have played and i hope there are many more expansions to come

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If this game is only the rumored 15 hours than how are we going to have more dialog and interactions between the new characters when compared to the old? Another point is that concerning the old characters will we actually see some or will we get the bad end of the stick and only hear rumors about them?



Anyways... My other question.



What about the DLC like Warden's Keep and The Stone Prisoner? Will they just vanish and be unavailable once we transfer to the expansion? If so than what's the point of buying DLC?

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MoSa09 wrote...

Giving Morrigan ending, how can i say that without spoiling, that was surprising and sounded to be quite final, i would expect that her reappearance would be something you as a player would not see coming (through an announcement for an example, but also in game), but rather something that comes a big surprise you did not expect at that moment.
So my guess is, if she returns now or in a later expansion (hope for the former), she will not be announced before but just surprisingly appear throughout the game


I agree, but at the same time I just don't see her having a significant role in a story that doesn't have her and her story at the forefront. Now your point can still stand, obviously it's not something they would announce, I suspect it would be a surprise just as you do. The problem is you also have the Architect, which from what I understand is also a big character, I'm not positive as I'm currently reading the books now, just going off of hearsay. I just don't see Bioware juggling two big protagonists with presumably two separate stories in one expansion. Now, like I said she may make an appearance and perhaps they will lead into her story which would be dealt with in the next expansion, full game, or whatever. As far as having any significant play in Awakening, I don't see it at the moment.

@107: You know as much as anyone else who doesn't have a Bioware tag under there name. I'd assume yes, but reality is I know jack for facts.

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i don't think the DLC will just up and vanish in the xpack, i am sure they took that into consideration, they know we spent money on the DLC so im gonna think they wont let it go to waste

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@MadCat: the problem with her having a huge impact on an xpac alone is that as much as i would love this, she is not liked by all, and that special aspect of her story that make many believe she will have her own story is an option of choice, so if you build a story around that you have to declare an ending canon. And i doubt BioWare will do that, apart from that it won't be fair for those who romanced someone different. I would not like it either if some other romance choices would be made canon and i have to live with them and play along that way.
So when she reappears, they have to find a compromise between giving her enough space to develop her story and possible impact further while at the same time not making her too much plot central for those who made different decisions in DAO. In some way or the other she and her story have to be attached to all players and all different endings, including the new Grey Warden.
She will neither be the plot central character nor just a minor character, but something in between, so i can imagine her returning in the future, especially if you consider the story background and the goals of the architect as well as her goals. But i really can't say any more without heavy spoiling

Modifié par MoSa09, 07 janvier 2010 - 07:22 .


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great! Can't wait! <3:whistle:

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What if the identity of the one returning companion isn't fixed, but varies depending on the choices you made previously?



For instance, my first ending suggested my character wouldn't be going far without Alistair, but the second one leaves him with rather too much on his plate to go a-wardening.


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Kyberia wrote...

What if the identity of the one returning companion isn't fixed, but varies depending on the choices you made previously?

For instance, my first ending suggested my character wouldn't be going far without Alistair, but the second one leaves him with rather too much on his plate to go a-wardening.


Yeah, I know. I've done 4 different endings with Alistar so far so each one is going to have to have a different situation.

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"the problem with her having a huge impact on an xpac alone is that as much as i would love this, she is not liked by all"



Not like by all, sure, but Morrigan is still by far the most popular joinable DA npc. At least if the polls are anything to go by. Or the constant spamming of Morrigan centric threads.

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striece wrote...

i do agree about morrigan, she was my favorite character as well, reminds me of my wife


I pity this man.

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TheMadCat wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...

Giving Morrigan ending, how can i say that without spoiling, that was surprising and sounded to be quite final, i would expect that her reappearance would be something you as a player would not see coming (through an announcement for an example, but also in game), but rather something that comes a big surprise you did not expect at that moment.
So my guess is, if she returns now or in a later expansion (hope for the former), she will not be announced before but just surprisingly appear throughout the game


I agree, but at the same time I just don't see her having a significant role in a story that doesn't have her and her story at the forefront. Now your point can still stand, obviously it's not something they would announce, I suspect it would be a surprise just as you do. The problem is you also have the Architect, which from what I understand is also a big character, I'm not positive as I'm currently reading the books now, just going off of hearsay. I just don't see Bioware juggling two big protagonists with presumably two separate stories in one expansion. Now, like I said she may make an appearance and perhaps they will lead into her story which would be dealt with in the next expansion, full game, or whatever. As far as having any significant play in Awakening, I don't see it at the moment.

@107: You know as much as anyone else who doesn't have a Bioware tag under there name. I'd assume yes, but reality is I know jack for facts.


Maybe the architect knows about the baby and is looking for it. Unlikely, but still...

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MoSa09

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Volourn wrote...

"the problem with her having a huge impact on an xpac alone is that as much as i would love this, she is not liked by all"

Not like by all, sure, but Morrigan is still by far the most popular joinable DA npc. At least if the polls are anything to go by. Or the constant spamming of Morrigan centric threads.


***SPOILER WARNING****

But still, there are thousands of players who adore Alistair or Leliana, and that Zevran fan group is not small either, and they all deserve that one romance is not simply privileged above all others, but all are treated equally. So i guess we won't see an xpac where she is central and that is solemly about her, that would not be fair and i would not want that, but an xpac where she get's her share and players can continue her play and story with her in their way, and hopefully, for tho of us who romanced her, bring that romance to a good end.
As by now, three out of four romances can end good, where as only one cannot, and that is not completely fair either.

@Psychoray: not unlikely, but can't say more without heavy spoiling

Modifié par MoSa09, 07 janvier 2010 - 07:47 .


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Hey DEVS, i saw your interview that you did with IGN about the expansion and also read the part where you explained more about why you choose to do the re-spec option.



As you may have seen in my post in here i was very against this option (for obvious reasons), but after reading why you added it and it's main purpose i now understand why you did it. :)

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@MoSa09: Not like by all? So? The Archdemon wasn't liked by all, neither was Loghain, Malak, Master Li, so on and so forth. The protagonist doesn't have to be liked by all, your never going to please everyone. The majority of people I think would relish at the opportunity to either bring her back as your love or drive a sword through her chest. Bioware will continue her story, that much is known, and from what they've said of her they want to make a story around her as she is looked at as the face of Dragon Age so to speak.



The need for a canon ending in this case, that's been debated many times over in many threads. I think it's been shown enough time over that they gave themselves enough leeway to make it happen "either way", they may give themselves even more leeway with this expansion. But considering how much work and effort has been put into this expansion to make the choices in Origin effect the world in Awakening shows they have no intentions of ever going a "canon" route. Why spend so much time and resources on something that would make no difference in the long run?



As I said, Bioware has some plan for her they've talked about this themselves. Considering her current situation and the vast array of story possibilities they've got plenty of ammo to work with. Personally I just think it'd be a terrible waste if they didn't maker her and her story the center of a game/expansion and I'm not even a fan of Morrigan.



Maybe the architect knows about the baby and is looking for it. Unlikely, but still...




It's a possibility I've discussed before. Explaining why would involve massive spoilers that I think should be avoided in this thread, but yes the possibility does exist.

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I love Morrigan, but I think her story will revolve around either DAO:2, or it will have its own separate expansion pack. I think that there is too much going on around her in regards to the overall major plot to have her be included as a minor role in this expansion pack. Oghren, Leliana, or Zhevran are all definite possibilities, though I really would only care for Leliana if it's one of those three. With that said though, I'll have a couple of different characters from which I can choose to run through the expansion depending on who the companion is, so I'm not too worried about it.

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Just want to give nods to actually keeping the companions etc secret...l believe to many surprises where revealed way before Orgins was released which kinda of lessened the joy.

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TheMadCat wrote...
As I said, Bioware has some plan for her they've talked about this themselves. Considering her current situation and the vast array of story possibilities they've got plenty of ammo to work with. Personally I just think it'd be a terrible waste if they didn't maker her and her story the center of a game/expansion and I'm not even a fan of Morrigan.

Maybe the architect knows about the baby and is looking for it. Unlikely, but still...


It's a possibility I've discussed before. Explaining why would involve massive spoilers that I think should be avoided in this thread, but yes the possibility does exist.


I agree with you, not continuing her story would be a waste, and for me, i would love to see her return sooner than later, and i have a small glimpse of hope she will have an appearance in "The Awakening". The diificult question is just, as you said rightly, Awakening clearly shows canon will not be an option, how they will attach her story to all players, all decisions and all endings, especially to those who sacrificed themselves and start wih the new Grey Warden who never knew her.
And of course, make her story that interesting that it will be bought by a huge amount of people and nost just the fans/haters. But i am sure BioWare has already a plan for this, as the ending of DAO clearly indicated they have something in mind for her.

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dont pity me Psychoray, she is feisty just how i like em :)

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TheMadCat wrote...

tymay33 wrote...



thats what im hoping for but if you read the ign article that is not the case. It means that you only get one to continue with, which im displeased to hear but hopefully it wont be all bad.


Eh? The articles says there will also be cameos. So yeah while only one (All but confirmed to be Oghren) will actually be in your party you'll still get to see and talk to at least a couple of others depends on who you romanced and how you ended the story, they may even play an important part in the story.


alright my bad i thought you were speaking of actual playable companions, when i said to continue with i meant in your party
axnd i already new about the cameos:D

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 I kind of feel like we need an Awakening forum. A 50-page thread just won't do if you want to start a dialogue about something. And I feel like posting in the other forums would be spam.