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Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening expansion pack. OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION & discussion *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*


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Do you think they will do this as a collectors edition?

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I don't see why there's all this speculation about who the "returning character" is, when said "returning character" appeared in the trailer. Of course it's Alistair.

I'm just a little annoyed. I really liked my DA:O character. I mean, I think that Creiden Amell was a pretty cool guy. Eh killed Darkspawn and doesn't afraid of anything. The problem is that he seems to be very, very, dead at the moment.

The most painful thing was that Alistair was with me at the time, this is exactly how our conversation went.

Alistair: "I'll do it! I want to."

Me: "Are you certain about this?"

Alistair: "No!...I mean, yes!"

Me: (literally the exact thought going through my head) "yeah...I can't let you do this."

Therefore, for a series of choices in which I refused to father a freaky evil god-thing, and then proceeded to refuse to let my Grey Warden friend take the blow for me, I have been punished. For being a good person. And the implicatons of said punishment was not made especially obvious until the expansion pack was announced. This is Fable II all over again!

But for serious. I'm not actually that pissed about it. Just a little annoyed. I just want to know for sure: Am I going to play a Frenchie, or is there going to be some kind of (extremely convenient) revival thing? I think that Bioware could actually make that work, see: Wynne's backstory.

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Because it's not obvious. Alistair, in the trailer, just gives you the quest, that's it's pretty likely he has just a cameo and is not the party member (especially if you consider his different ending and their consequences if you import him to DA:A).

And it's not yet confirmed as far as i know, but i am sure your dead character won'T be revided but you have to play the Orlasian Warden Commander.


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I'll make sure to kill Alistair off and give Oghren the boot on one of my playthroughs, see how that turns out. LMAO.

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Aquamantor wrote...

I don't see why there's all this speculation about who the "returning character" is, when said "returning character" appeared in the trailer. Of course it's Alistair.

I'm just a little annoyed. I really liked my DA:O character. I mean, I think that Creiden Amell was a pretty cool guy. Eh killed Darkspawn and doesn't afraid of anything. The problem is that he seems to be very, very, dead at the moment.

The most painful thing was that Alistair was with me at the time, this is exactly how our conversation went.

Alistair: "I'll do it! I want to."

Me: "Are you certain about this?"

Alistair: "No!...I mean, yes!"

Me: (literally the exact thought going through my head) "yeah...I can't let you do this."

Therefore, for a series of choices in which I refused to father a freaky evil god-thing, and then proceeded to refuse to let my Grey Warden friend take the blow for me, I have been punished. For being a good person. And the implicatons of said punishment was not made especially obvious until the expansion pack was announced. This is Fable II all over again!

But for serious. I'm not actually that pissed about it. Just a little annoyed. I just want to know for sure: Am I going to play a Frenchie, or is there going to be some kind of (extremely convenient) revival thing? I think that Bioware could actually make that work, see: Wynne's backstory.


read the other my posts the returning charecter will be Oghren not Alistar, Alistar will be in expansion but not a play'able character. And yes i actualy proved it...

Modifié par essens, 09 janvier 2010 - 06:16 .


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I do not use the term "Orlesian". In it's place, I only accept the word "Frenchie".



I'm willing to do it, it's a nice change of pace, but they BETTER not shut up about the noble sacrifice of my previous character.

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I bet they magically appear in expansion still especially alistair.

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essens wrote...

Aquamantor wrote...

I don't see why there's all this speculation about who the "returning character" is, when said "returning character" appeared in the trailer. Of course it's Alistair.

I'm just a little annoyed. I really liked my DA:O character. I mean, I think that Creiden Amell was a pretty cool guy. Eh killed Darkspawn and doesn't afraid of anything. The problem is that he seems to be very, very, dead at the moment.

The most painful thing was that Alistair was with me at the time, this is exactly how our conversation went.

Alistair: "I'll do it! I want to."

Me: "Are you certain about this?"

Alistair: "No!...I mean, yes!"

Me: (literally the exact thought going through my head) "yeah...I can't let you do this."

Therefore, for a series of choices in which I refused to father a freaky evil god-thing, and then proceeded to refuse to let my Grey Warden friend take the blow for me, I have been punished. For being a good person. And the implicatons of said punishment was not made especially obvious until the expansion pack was announced. This is Fable II all over again!

But for serious. I'm not actually that pissed about it. Just a little annoyed. I just want to know for sure: Am I going to play a Frenchie, or is there going to be some kind of (extremely convenient) revival thing? I think that Bioware could actually make that work, see: Wynne's backstory.


read the other my posts the returning charecter will be Oghren not Alistar, Alistar will be in expansion but not a play'able character. And yes i actualy proved it...


Alistair still is returning  if hes back lmao regardless if he playable.

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so 2 characters will return at this point...

Modifié par essens, 09 janvier 2010 - 06:20 .


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Oh, and BTW: I'm pretty sure the cannon ending is "Warden sacrifices himself", since that'd be the easiest ending for Bioware to do. It'd get the original PC out of the way, so that Frenchie could move in.



There are probably two cannon endings, actually, since you can import a character from a save file that isn't complete. The second one is probably either you or Alistair being Morrigan's baby-daddy, since that lets you both be alive.



So cannon ending without save file = Ultimate Sacrifice

Cannon ending with save file = Tevinter God Daddy

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The didn't say just "returning character" they said "an old favorite" Alistair and Oghren are not my favorites. I read, or heard, somewhere that Bioware was able to gather information from achievements of Mass Effect to tell them about who the players chose to have in their party most, what their most used class was, weapons and stuff like that. It was Casey Hudson if i can recall correctly. What if they did this in Dragon Age to determine who the "old favorite" character will be in the expansion, making it different for each player? Just a thought.

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That why i wonder why Bioware said A old favorite when theres two! 

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 09 janvier 2010 - 06:25 .


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Aquamantor wrote...

I don't see why there's all this speculation about who the "returning character" is, when said "returning character" appeared in the trailer. Of course it's Alistair.

I'm just a little annoyed. I really liked my DA:O character. I mean, I think that Creiden Amell was a pretty cool guy. Eh killed Darkspawn and doesn't afraid of anything. The problem is that he seems to be very, very, dead at the moment.

The most painful thing was that Alistair was with me at the time, this is exactly how our conversation went.

Alistair: "I'll do it! I want to."

Me: "Are you certain about this?"

Alistair: "No!...I mean, yes!"

Me: (literally the exact thought going through my head) "yeah...I can't let you do this."

Therefore, for a series of choices in which I refused to father a freaky evil god-thing, and then proceeded to refuse to let my Grey Warden friend take the blow for me, I have been punished. For being a good person. And the implicatons of said punishment was not made especially obvious until the expansion pack was announced. This is Fable II all over again!

But for serious. I'm not actually that pissed about it. Just a little annoyed. I just want to know for sure: Am I going to play a Frenchie, or is there going to be some kind of (extremely convenient) revival thing? I think that Bioware could actually make that work, see: Wynne's backstory.


About your little revival thing, i don't think a good Spirit from the Fade would have the power to revive somebody that had the soul of an Old God in them (I'm just sayin')

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EJon wrote...

The didn't say just "returning character" they said "an old favorite" Alistair and Oghren are not my favorites. I read, or heard, somewhere that Bioware was able to gather information from achievements of Mass Effect to tell them about who the players chose to have in their party most, what their most used class was, weapons and stuff like that. It was Casey Hudson if i can recall correctly. What if they did this in Dragon Age to determine who the "old favorite" character will be in the expansion, making it different for each player? Just a thought.


it was sayed a duzen times,  budget is to small to have a luxury of choosing character that comes back... only one character and it was choosen already it is Oghren... deal with it...

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XOGHunter246 wrote...

That why i wonder why Bioware said A old favorite when theres two! 


becouse they don't talk about non-play'able characters

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A good spirit from the Fade is as powerful as Bioware damn well says it is. (Trust me, I'm a DM. I have experience with things being as powerful as you damn well say they are.) If they want it to, it can chop the soul up, remove the fat and the grease, and cook it as good as new. They've never quite SAID that that would be difficult, have they? Nor have they ever confirmed just how powerful these spirits are. They wouldn't be pulling a Blizzard (I know the lore says this, but it would be really cool if we did this) if they made that happen. It might even be cool.

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Aquamantor wrote...

A good spirit from the Fade is as powerful as Bioware damn well says it is. (Trust me, I'm a DM. I have experience with things being as powerful as you damn well say they are.) If they want it to, it can chop the soul up, remove the fat and the grease, and cook it as good as new. They've never quite SAID that that would be difficult, have they? Nor have they ever confirmed just how powerful these spirits are. They wouldn't be pulling a Blizzard (I know the lore says this, but it would be really cool if we did this) if they made that happen. It might even be cool.


I get what you mean, but just going back to the game, the spirit isnt doing too well just keeping an old lady alive, so think about it that way :P Still would be quite cool though the revival thing, say a Necromancer came across your tomb or some such nonsense.

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Prediction: Duncan makes his triumphant return as a brood mother!

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essens wrote...

EJon wrote...

The didn't say just "returning character" they said "an old favorite" Alistair and Oghren are not my favorites. I read, or heard, somewhere that Bioware was able to gather information from achievements of Mass Effect to tell them about who the players chose to have in their party most, what their most used class was, weapons and stuff like that. It was Casey Hudson if i can recall correctly. What if they did this in Dragon Age to determine who the "old favorite" character will be in the expansion, making it different for each player? Just a thought.


it was sayed a duzen times,  budget is to small to have a luxury of choosing character that comes back... only one character and it was choosen already it is Oghren... deal with it...

While i agree with you about the first part I do not agree about oghren being the one returning he is by no means the most popular companion he's far from it. Someone told me that in a poll he gathered three percent of the most popular companion. So i have my doubts about him being the returning companion since he's only the favorite of 3%..

Modifié par Solostran85, 09 janvier 2010 - 06:36 .


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I'm happy with Oghren coming back maybe this time he sobered up. I doubt the dog would need a lot done to him he doesn't have much dialog plus there are lot of war hounds around as they used generally in battle.
I would love to see a Qunari Broodmother.

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 09 janvier 2010 - 06:37 .


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Veritasinpersonam wrote...

Prediction: Duncan makes his triumphant return as a brood mother!

Uhh duncans a guy don't you know?

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Solostran85 wrote...
While i agree with you about the first part I do not agree about oghren being the one returning he is by no means the most popular companion he's far from it. Someone told me that in a poll he gathered three percent of the most popular companion. So i have my doubts about him being the returning companion since he's only the favorite of 3%..


please look at my posts in the past you will see screens of proofs...

Modifié par essens, 09 janvier 2010 - 06:39 .


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Solostran85 wrote...

Veritasinpersonam wrote...

Prediction: Duncan makes his triumphant return as a brood mother!

Uhh duncans a guy don't you know?

He would just be a stupid Hurlock.

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Solostran85 wrote...

Veritasinpersonam wrote...

Prediction: Duncan makes his triumphant return as a brood mother!

Uhh duncans a guy don't you know?


Meh, imo he'd look a lot prettier with a triple chin and 8 ******

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leeboi2 wrote...

Aquamantor wrote...

A good spirit from the Fade is as powerful as Bioware damn well says it is. (Trust me, I'm a DM. I have experience with things being as powerful as you damn well say they are.) If they want it to, it can chop the soul up, remove the fat and the grease, and cook it as good as new. They've never quite SAID that that would be difficult, have they? Nor have they ever confirmed just how powerful these spirits are. They wouldn't be pulling a Blizzard (I know the lore says this, but it would be really cool if we did this) if they made that happen. It might even be cool.


I get what you mean, but just going back to the game, the spirit isnt doing too well just keeping an old lady alive, so think about it that way :P Still would be quite cool though the revival thing, say a Necromancer came across your tomb or some such nonsense.


Yes, but Necromancers are all about the mindless zombie craze. They're not into bringing back things that have the possibility of A: thinking and B: not serving them. As for the good spirit, Wynne survived across an entire campaign that looks to be far longer than this expansion pack and possibly another combined. Oh, yeah, and after the end, she still isn't dead. I'm guessing you'd be pretty good once the spirit brought you back. Not permanently, of course, but long enough for the game's purposes.