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[essens]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

XOGHunter246 wrote...

There are 3 people in the video including Oghren I am pretty sure it him why would he be in the party getting ready to fight that Spectral Dragon If he was not the Old favorite returning.  

From what I've seen so far i think we'll have a chice regarding which one charavter we bring to Awakening. Personally I rather despise Oghren and there is no reason for the dog not to be available to return.....and the other gray warden.....presuming he doesn't hold a special position of power to keep him bussy.....this mostly applies to the one you can recruit late in the game.....the late game recruitable warden is the one I really want to have as my companion in awakening.

Now the title of the thread does say *POSSIBLE SPOILERS* but I hope that is a clean enough description and still undertandable by those who have played the game.

please read posts above there are clearly say'd that there will NOT be any choise on what hero to pick....

[XOGHunter246]

Also please don't make the Spectral Dragon weaker then the Archdemon as the Archdemon was a joke.

[Samahl na Revas]

I was going to make a thread in the spoiler section about things I noticed about the awaking trailers, but since some of the things I notices aren't necessarily spoilers here goes:

0.22 into the video near what atm I am assuming is permutation of an arcane horror, there is a face (head) to the right of this thing as the commander of the gray warden wakes up* (assuming that it is the commander that is waking up).

1:10 the drawf that is seen several times in the trailer, is seen from the side view

1:02 after the ghostly figure breaks down the door there is a big mass of rock in the background,idk the setting resembles one of the settings from the pictures in the awaking section. Plus it is looks pretty light outside but, some of the followers are carrying torches. the only other place I seen this light effect is within a forest 1:16, and also in the Brecilian Forest in the origin story. I speculate that this maybe another realm.

Everything else is very noticeable imo or have already been mentioned

Modifié par thecalling, 09 janvier 2010 - 07:50 .

[XOGHunter246]

That ghost is Loghain ghost look very close to it.

[Darth_Trethon]

essens wrote...

please read posts above there are clearly say'd that there will NOT be any choise on what hero to pick....

I couldn't care less what fans say......unless there is developer confirmation what I speculate is just as valid as any other blind speculation.

A dev said only one companion in awakening was seen in origins and the others are new but he does not say there's no choice regarding which one goes from origins to awakening. Plus it's still in development so things can change. Nonetheless that post is ambiguous at best.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 09 janvier 2010 - 07:57 .

[Byron25]

Hope Leliana will be in it as Orlais is a big factor Dragon Age: Origins Awakening

[Leifa]

Wow, looks amazing, can't wait!

But what's that music in the second part of the trailer??? OMG do want!!!
Is that original material for Awakening?

The music in DA: Origins is already so wonderful, hope this will be part of the game too... please make it so?

Modifié par Leifa, 09 janvier 2010 - 07:58 .

[MoSa09]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

essens wrote...

please read posts above there are clearly say'd that there will NOT be any choise on what hero to pick....

I couldn't care less what fans say......unless there is developer confirmation what I speculate is just as valid as any other blind speculation.

well, then let me tell that the fact that you can't choose your old companion but get one you'll have to live with is NO fan speculation BUT confirmed information from BioWare

[Darth_Trethon]

MoSa09 wrote...

well, then let me tell that the fact that you can't choose your old companion but get one you'll have to live with is NO fan speculation BUT confirmed information from BioWare

Nice assumptions but irrelevant. I can start claiming to know facts and make crap up.

A dev said only one companion in awakening was seen in origins and the others are new but he does not say there's no choice regarding which one goes from origins to awakening. Plus it's still in development so things can change. Nonetheless that post is ambiguous at best.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 09 janvier 2010 - 08:00 .

[EJon]

essens wrote...

EJon wrote...

The didn't say just "returning character" they said "an old favorite" Alistair and Oghren are not my favorites. I read, or heard, somewhere that Bioware was able to gather information from achievements of Mass Effect to tell them about who the players chose to have in their party most, what their most used class was, weapons and stuff like that. It was Casey Hudson if i can recall correctly. What if they did this in Dragon Age to determine who the "old favorite" character will be in the expansion, making it different for each player? Just a thought.

it was sayed a duzen times,  budget is to small to have a luxury of choosing character that comes back... only one character and it was choosen already it is Oghren... deal with it...

Ignorant people like you are very easy to find on this forum. You know, people also said that you wouldn't be able to import your character because bioware isn't going to add that ME similar feature to the game since it would take so much time. Yet, when the announcement came, we found out that you CAN import your character. Even after so many times i showed articles where developers said they would be using this feature, people, like you, just ignored. You sound as if your working in the industry, or with Bioware to be exact. Just because Oghren and Alistair were in there doesn't mean there the only two. What happens if alistair died in your playthrough? Think he'll be in there? No. That ONE trailer they showed just showed the gameplay from ONE perspective. You expect them to post multiple trailers with multiple outcomes? I don't think so. But don't go around acting like you know for sure that Oghren is the returning character. Because the other idiots "knew" for sure that you couldn't import your character, and they were proven wrong. Don't act as they did. I'm pretty sure Oghren isn't going to be the "old favorite" in my playthrough, because i didn't like him. And it'd be false advertising for Bioware to say that you get an old favorite, and it be someone you never liked. Thats where the info from Achievements come in. Thats one way they could determine who your most used companion was. I'm not saying on that is 100% right - but im pretty sure they have a way to determine who your "old favorite" is and have them in the expansion pack.

[MoSa09]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...

well, then let me tell that the fact that you can't choose your old companion but get one you'll have to live with is NO fan speculation BUT confirmed information from BioWare

Nice assumptions but irrelevant. I can start claiming to know facts and make crap up.

A dev said only one companion in awakening was seen in origins and the others are new but he does not say there's no choice regarding which one goes from origins to awakening. Plus it's still in development so things can change. Nonetheless that post is ambiguous at best.

it's no assumption from my side but based on the exact same information Lead writer David Gaider said that there will be no choice of the old companion due to restricted ressources but only one they choose.
But  you're of course free to believe whatever you want if you think i am just making this up

[XOGHunter246]

Well I will assume the video has Oghren now seen as the character has the same hair and is a dwarf who uses two handed weapons. That ghost also look a lot like loghain and Alistair will not be playable and is king and we know one new member is that mage whatever his name is.

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 09 janvier 2010 - 08:08 .

[Darth_Trethon]

MoSa09 wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...

well, then let me tell that the fact that you can't choose your old companion but get one you'll have to live with is NO fan speculation BUT confirmed information from BioWare

Nice assumptions but irrelevant. I can start claiming to know facts and make crap up.

A dev said only one companion in awakening was seen in origins and the others are new but he does not say there's no choice regarding which one goes from origins to awakening. Plus it's still in development so things can change. Nonetheless that post is ambiguous at best.

it's no assumption from my side but based on the exact same information Lead writer David Gaider said that there will be no choice of the old companion due to restricted ressources but only one they choose.
But  you're of course free to believe whatever you want if you think i am just making this up

He clearly didn't say that in this thread. Do you have a source....link?

[Darth_Trethon]

XOGHunter246 wrote...

Well I will assume the video has Oghren now seen as the character has the same hair and is a dwarf who uses two handed weapons. That ghost also look a lot like loghain and Alistair will not be playable and is king and we know one new member is that mage whatever his name is.

Alistai's punk bhind will deffinitely not be king in my game. Oghren is clearly visible but I despise him really....I wish there was a way to get him killed. I'll tell him to leave to see if that prevents him from being the one that goes to awakening. I really wish Loghain would be the one to go from Origins to Awakening. I don't see a reason for him to be unable to go to awakening.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 09 janvier 2010 - 08:13 .

[XOGHunter246]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

XOGHunter246 wrote...

Well I will assume the video has Oghren now seen as the character has the same hair and is a dwarf who uses two handed weapons. That ghost also look a lot like loghain and Alistair will not be playable and is king and we know one new member is that mage whatever his name is.

Alistai's punk bhind will deffinitely not be king in my game. Oghren is clearly visible but I despise him really....I wish there was a way to get him killed. I'll tell him to leave to see if that prevents him from being the one that goes to awakening. I really wish Loghain would be the one to go from Origins to Awakening. I don't see a reason for him to be unable to go to awakening.

Loghain meant to die and Alistair is meant to be king that why I'm assuming that ghost is him as it look some much like him.

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 09 janvier 2010 - 08:17 .

[Mesecina]

MoSa09 wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

essens wrote...

please read posts above there are clearly say'd that there will NOT be any choise on what hero to pick....

I couldn't care less what fans say......unless there is developer confirmation what I speculate is just as valid as any other blind speculation.

well, then let me tell that the fact that you can't choose your old companion but get one you'll have to live with is NO fan speculation BUT confirmed information from BioWare

Well if we think about it we know there are 5 new companions right? And there's 1 secret "old favourite". Which would mean 6 joinables total vs 8 (+2) in Origins.

[/spoilerish]
While I personally think it would be a waste of resorces in a way if you could choose that favourite it is still pretty damn possible since you'd be left with Lel, Zev, Oghren and possibly Al to choose from (Sten is off to whack Ferelden at some stage, Wynne is travelling with Shale and we know about her "condition", Shale is DLC + travelling or returning to Orzammar, Dog- dunno, Secret companion - hardly anyone's favourite plus getting rather old even if he gets to survive, Mori - gone)
[/end of spoilerish section]

so alltogether that's writing and voice acting for 9 characters and gives the campaign hell lot of replayability and depth also counting in the expansion won't actually be any cheaper than the original campaign I'd say it's quite possible (or at least I'd be totally thrilled if that was actually the case)

Also it would be nice if some people wouldn't be forcing their opinions or observations so fiercely upon others since right now everyone is just speculating, unless there's a blue tag under their name - and we've seen none of those confirming or denying whether the "old favourite" might actually be different person for different PC or will he/she actually be forced upon you.

[Darth_Trethon]

XOGHunter246 wrote...

Loghain meant to die and Alistair is meant to be king that why I'm assuming that ghost is him as it look some much like him.

Well yeah but that must be the default start if you don't import a save. If you do import a save however things can be drastically different.

[XOGHunter246]

Darth_Trethon wrote...


Well yeah but that must be the default start if you don't import a save. If you do import a save however things can be drastically different. 

Good point there actually the game is related to your choices I hope things can play out differently depending on what you have currently done. I just thought how Bioware could mess this expansion up if they just made default story.

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 09 janvier 2010 - 08:25 .

[JKJEDIKNIGHT]

If this game can interpret all our choices from DA:O then Alistair doesn't even have to be in Awakening. In my human noble, I had him executed, put Anora on the throne and married her. So given what they claim will happen, and my character carrys over, Alistair is dead. I'm not sure why everyone is all in arms anyway, the trailer is from ONE perspective of the game. For all we know, that could be the perspective of making an all new character (Orlesian Warden). In fact, I would imagine that it is.

[Darth_Trethon]

XOGHunter246 wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...


Well yeah but that must be the default start if you don't import a save. If you do import a save however things can be drastically different. 

Good point there actually the game is related to your choices I hope things can play out differently depending on what you have currently done. I just thought how Bioware could mess this expansion up if they just made default story.

Here's this:

Source: http://pc.ign.com/ar.../1058656p1.html

But one of the things that we wanted to do with Dragon Age as a franchise is that it's all based on choices and consequences. So there is a lot of reactivity to things that you've done in Origins if you choose to import that character. Of course, that will depend on the decisions you made and at what point you're importing them into Awakening. For instance, if you're coming from the end game save, then there's going to be a lot more reactivity, including [Spoilers Ahead!] right down to the very choices of how the Archdemon was defeated and who you put on the throne and all that kind of stuff -- hopefully that's not going to spoil it for you! If you choose to import from a much earlier point, then there may not be as much reactivity, but you'll hear about certain rumors.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 09 janvier 2010 - 08:34 .

[Samahl na Revas]

I was just about to post a link to that article but you beat me to it

[XOGHunter246]

It hasn't said anything about side quest or anything I hope there are a few extra thing to do other then the story it self for the price they selling this for.