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Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening expansion pack. OFFICIAL CONFIRMATION & discussion *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*


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KennethAFTopp

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I don't wanna play as no stinking frenchie... I mean Orlesian with that snooty accentImage IPB

I kid, I hope these new mentioned abilities also include the option perhaps of using one handed weapons in two hands, that would be cool.
Or the introduction of new weapon types, such as the half and half sword for those new abilities, but I doubt, there would be a need for a new set of animations I reckon, after all.

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Double post makes the internet cry.

Sorry.

Modifié par KennethAFTopp, 09 janvier 2010 - 08:58 .


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JKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...

If this game can interpret all our choices from DA:O then Alistair doesn't even have to be in Awakening. In my human noble, I had him executed, put Anora on the throne and married her. So given what they claim will happen, and my character carrys over, Alistair is dead. I'm not sure why everyone is all in arms anyway, the trailer is from ONE perspective of the game. For all we know, that could be the perspective of making an all new character (Orlesian Warden). In fact, I would imagine that it is.


This sums it all up well, it's actually been said by the dev that just because a 1:38 trailer doesn't show all possible choices being reflected, doesn't mean all choices won't be reflected.

@Darth: This comment was made by David Gaider about why you won't have the option to choose your companion. It's way beyond fan speculation, it wasn't done simply because it would have been an immense waste of limited resources.

*casts Dispel Hope*

While I'm sure it would be thrilling, having
multiple companions that we would need to write up in their entirety
only to allow you to have ONE of them would be a massive waste of
resources. Considering that the budget for an expansion is already
pretty small, it's not really feasible.

Sorry, just wearing my Expectations Management cap at the moment. ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png



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Two handed weapons would not be two handed if you could do that I doubt that will happen.

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Byron25 wrote...

Hope Leliana will be in it as Orlais is a big factor Dragon Age: Origins Awakening


Aside from an Orlesian Warden being playable if you want, there isn't a single mentition of Orlais in Awakening so I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that Orlais will play a big factor.

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XOGHunter246 wrote...

It hasn't said anything about side quest or anything I hope there are a few extra thing to do other then the story it self for the price they selling this for.


Well it's suposed to be a 15 hour expansion and I highly doubt that the main story lasts 15 hours so chances are there will be side quests.....if not a 15 hour main story is pretty damn good in my book.....that would make it as long if not longer than the main story of DAO.

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i want to see what longhain will be like in the expansion



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Darth_Trethon wrote...

XOGHunter246 wrote...

It hasn't said anything about side quest or anything I hope there are a few extra thing to do other then the story it self for the price they selling this for.


Well it's suposed to be a 15 hour expansion and I highly doubt that the main story lasts 15 hours so chances are there will be side quests.....if not a 15 hour main story is pretty damn good in my book.....that would make it as long if not longer than the main story of DAO.

 Devs tend to exaggerate on lengths of game it more like 7-9 hours for a someone who plays it a lot .

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 09 janvier 2010 - 09:10 .


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KennethAFTopp wrote...

I don't wanna play as no stinking frenchie... I mean Orlesian with that snooty accentImage IPB

I kid, I hope these new mentioned abilities also include the option perhaps of using one handed weapons in two hands, that would be cool.
Or the introduction of new weapon types, such as the half and half sword for those new abilities, but I doubt, there would be a need for a new set of animations I reckon, after all.


If you import your DAO character.....provided he survived the game....then you don't need to worry about being French....err I mean Orlesian.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

XOGHunter246 wrote...

It hasn't said anything about side quest or anything I hope there are a few extra thing to do other then the story it self for the price they selling this for.


Well it's suposed to be a 15 hour expansion and I highly doubt that the main story lasts 15 hours so chances are there will be side quests.....if not a 15 hour main story is pretty damn good in my book.....that would make it as long if not longer than the main story of DAO.


Nah, the 15 hour thing is an unconfirmed rumor put up on the Czech site that was wrong on almost every other detail it listed. Don't really know how long the expansion will take.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

KennethAFTopp wrote...

I don't wanna play as no stinking frenchie... I mean Orlesian with that snooty accentImage IPB

I kid, I hope these new mentioned abilities also include the option perhaps of using one handed weapons in two hands, that would be cool.
Or the introduction of new weapon types, such as the half and half sword for those new abilities, but I doubt, there would be a need for a new set of animations I reckon, after all.


If you import your DAO character.....provided he survived the game....then you don't need to worry about being French....err I mean Orlesian.


Very true, but I do reckon I'd want to try that angle of the story at some point though, can't have all my little PC's survive ;) well I could but where would the fun be in that?
Also Riordan was bad ass, had a nice voice too I thought, gruff though accented slightly. Though I wonder why he had an Irish name, as I thought them only to be used in Ferelden.

Modifié par KennethAFTopp, 09 janvier 2010 - 09:12 .


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TheMadCat wrote...
@Darth: This comment was made by David Gaider about why you won't have the option to choose your companion. It's way beyond fan speculation, it wasn't done simply because it would have been an immense waste of limited resources.

*casts Dispel Hope*

While I'm sure it would be thrilling, having
multiple companions that we would need to write up in their entirety
only to allow you to have ONE of them would be a massive waste of
resources. Considering that the budget for an expansion is already
pretty small, it's not really feasible.

Sorry, just wearing my Expectations Management cap at the moment. ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png




Thx Madcat for finding this, i had searched this damn board all over and couldn't locate it, i just knew it had to be somewhere. Thx for getting it, now i can stop searching for it:D

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TheMadCat wrote...

Nah, the 15 hour thing is an unconfirmed rumor put up on the Czech site that was wrong on almost every other detail it listed. Don't really know how long the expansion will take.


Well Fernando Melo said this: But it'll be fairly massive. It'll be bigger than most retail games.


pc.ign.com/articles/105/1058656p3.html

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 09 janvier 2010 - 09:16 .


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Why am I complaining I will be buying it but I do think expansion should bit little cheaper but never mind Bioware can take my money . :devil:

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 09 janvier 2010 - 09:18 .


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Darth_Trethon wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

Nah, the 15 hour thing is an unconfirmed rumor put up on the Czech site that was wrong on almost every other detail it listed. Don't really know how long the expansion will take.


Well Fernando Melo said this: But it'll be fairly massive. It'll be bigger than most retail games.


pc.ign.com/articles/105/1058656p3.html


Which in this day and age could mean a 15 hour campaign mind you. Alot of games, alot of GREAT games are around that 8 or ten hour mark.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

Nah, the 15 hour thing is an unconfirmed rumor put up on the Czech site that was wrong on almost every other detail it listed. Don't really know how long the expansion will take.


Well Fernando Melo said this: But it'll be fairly massive. It'll be bigger than most retail games.


pc.ign.com/articles/105/1058656p3.html


In the same interview he also talked about the level upping up to the mid to high 30's, on the same leveling system following a similar pace that's quite a long time to chew through. I've said it before, looks more like 30 hours or so then 15.

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I will only believe anything said about it length closer to the release when people have a solid review on it. I think I stop my speculation for today and wait till a real review comes out.

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 09 janvier 2010 - 09:31 .


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I wouldnt say 30 hours, but 15 is a long time. took me about 27 i think to beat the game, and i did most of the side quests - that felt long to me. This is about half of that, so i won't exactly be disappointed or anything. After reading the IGN interview, I'm more interested in it now. The interview even showed how Bioware wants the choices you make to impact subsequent games.

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Alex109222 wrote...

i want to see what longhain will be like in the expansion

<- is eager



Endgame spoilers! [SPOILERS] Endgame spoilers!


In every epilogue possible Loghain eventually dies, whether he survives the Landsmeet and the Archdemon. I think if he survives both he becomes a major recruiter for the Grey Wardens before eventually going into the Deep Roads to die fighting. So with Awakening taking places months after the end of Origins, probably "after" the epilogues, I don't see Loghain returning unfortunately.


[/SPOILERS]

Nobody knows when EXACTLY Awakening takes place, only months after Origins, so who knows?

Modifié par SHITBULLET, 09 janvier 2010 - 10:06 .


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i just got to say this THANK YOU THANK YOU BIOWARE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!.............................ya thats it :P

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JKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...

If this game can interpret all our choices from DA:O then Alistair doesn't even have to be in Awakening. In my human noble, I had him executed, put Anora on the throne and married her. So given what they claim will happen, and my character carrys over, Alistair is dead. I'm not sure why everyone is all in arms anyway, the trailer is from ONE perspective of the game. For all we know, that could be the perspective of making an all new character (Orlesian Warden). In fact, I would imagine that it is.



I don't see where it's a new Orlesian Warden, its' you from the frist one and it even shows you killing the archdemon and the Architect even knows it was you for it was fortold, did you forget that part?, So yes its you from that storyline, while there may be more starts of a new character I would say yes but it shows you from the first one and the Architect knows who you are and I don't think he likes you very much. 

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****BULLET wrote...

Alex109222 wrote...

i want to see what longhain will be like in the expansion

<- is eager



Endgame spoilers! [SPOILERS] Endgame spoilers!


In every epilogue possible Loghain eventually dies, whether he survives the Landsmeet and the Archdemon. I think if he survives both he becomes a major recruiter for the Grey Wardens before eventually going into the Deep Roads to die fighting. So with Awakening taking places months after the end of Origins, probably "after" the epilogues, I don't see Loghain returning unfortunately.


[/SPOILERS]

Nobody knows when EXACTLY Awakening takes place, only months after Origins, so who knows?


Well he was still around for a couple of years after DAO and Awakening takes place a few months after DAO. I don't see why he couldn't be in Awakening. As for his recruitoing efforts.....well Awakening IS about you rebuilding the order so recruitment is part of that....all the more reason for Loghain to be there.

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Ignorant people like you are very easy to find on this forum. You know, people also said that you wouldn't be able to import your character because bioware isn't going to add that ME similar feature to the game since it would take so much time. Yet, when the announcement came, we found out that you CAN import your character. Even after so many times i showed articles where developers said they would be using this feature, people, like you, just ignored. You sound as if your working in the industry, or with Bioware to be exact. Just because Oghren and Alistair were in there doesn't mean there the only two. What happens if alistair died in your playthrough? Think he'll be in there? No. That ONE trailer they showed just showed the gameplay from ONE perspective. You expect them to post multiple trailers with multiple outcomes? I don't think so. But don't go around acting like you know for sure that Oghren is the returning character. Because the other idiots "knew" for sure that you couldn't import your character, and they were proven wrong. Don't act as they did. I'm pretty sure Oghren isn't going to be the "old favorite" in my playthrough, because i didn't like him. And it'd be false advertising for Bioware to say that you get an old favorite, and it be someone you never liked. Thats where the info from Achievements come in. Thats one way they could determine who your most used companion was. I'm not saying on that is 100% right - but im pretty sure they have a way to determine who your "old favorite" is and have them in the expansion pack.


I Will Just Tell You This:  Did You See Alistar Fighting or Just Talking? And Did You See Oghren Talking Or Fighting?
And i don't ignore anything... i just see facts which you don't see.
Also if there would be more choises then Oghren then whats the points of say'ng that theres gowing to be 1 play'abe character from the origins....

maybe i am wrong who knows... but i think the chances are really few.

Modifié par essens, 09 janvier 2010 - 11:08 .


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thenemesis77 wrote...

JKJEDIKNIGHT wrote...

If this game can interpret all our choices from DA:O then Alistair doesn't even have to be in Awakening. In my human noble, I had him executed, put Anora on the throne and married her. So given what they claim will happen, and my character carrys over, Alistair is dead. I'm not sure why everyone is all in arms anyway, the trailer is from ONE perspective of the game. For all we know, that could be the perspective of making an all new character (Orlesian Warden). In fact, I would imagine that it is.



I don't see where it's a new Orlesian Warden, its' you from the frist one and it even shows you killing the archdemon and the Architect even knows it was you for it was fortold, did you forget that part?, So yes its you from that storyline, while there may be more starts of a new character I would say yes but it shows you from the first one and the Architect knows who you are and I don't think he likes you very much. 


You do realize that trailers, whether for movies, or for games are often times the most leading on form of promotion ever, right?  Take the movie Highlander End Game.  There were clips in the trailer, that didn't even make it into the final movie, so don't count on this trailer as the end all to be all for one.  And 2, the clip of the archdemon being slain, is the EXACT same clip from the DA:O trailers, so don't assume that because they show that clip it means they imported the character and what not.  Trailer also says the Architect forsaw the death of the archdemon, not that the main character was the one that did it necessarily either.

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essens wrote...

I Will Just Tell You This:  Did You See Alistar Fighting or Just Talking? And Did You See Oghren Talking Or Fighting?
And i don't ignore anything... i just see facts which you don't see. Also if there would be more choises then Oghren then whats the points of say'ng that theres gowing to be 1 play'abe character from the origins....

maybe i am wrong who knows... but i think the chances are really few.


Oghren can remain as a General of the army if you didn't do his personal quest so it's entirely possible for him to appear as an NPC that doesn't join you just like Alistair appears if you made him king.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 09 janvier 2010 - 11:30 .