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[Subdivide]

EJon wrote...

essens wrote...

EJon wrote...
Ignorant people like you are very easy to find on this forum. You know, people also said that you wouldn't be able to import your character because bioware isn't going to add that ME similar feature to the game since it would take so much time. Yet, when the announcement came, we found out that you CAN import your character. Even after so many times i showed articles where developers said they would be using this feature, people, like you, just ignored. You sound as if your working in the industry, or with Bioware to be exact. Just because Oghren and Alistair were in there doesn't mean there the only two. What happens if alistair died in your playthrough? Think he'll be in there? No. That ONE trailer they showed just showed the gameplay from ONE perspective. You expect them to post multiple trailers with multiple outcomes? I don't think so. But don't go around acting like you know for sure that Oghren is the returning character. Because the other idiots "knew" for sure that you couldn't import your character, and they were proven wrong. Don't act as they did. I'm pretty sure Oghren isn't going to be the "old favorite" in my playthrough, because i didn't like him. And it'd be false advertising for Bioware to say that you get an old favorite, and it be someone you never liked. Thats where the info from Achievements come in. Thats one way they could determine who your most used companion was. I'm not saying on that is 100% right - but im pretty sure they have a way to determine who your "old favorite" is and have them in the expansion pack.

I Will Just Tell You This:  Did You See Alistar Fighting or Just Talking? And Did You See Oghren Talking Or Fighting?
And i don't ignore anything... i just see facts which you don't see.
Also if there would be more choises then Oghren then whats the points of say'ng that theres gowing to be 1 play'abe character from the origins....

maybe i am wrong who knows... but i think the chances are really few.

There is only 1 characer from Origins. In the trailer, it showed Oghren. That was probably because he was the most used companion, or some other factor. The way the announced the character from Origins as being an "old favorite" shows that it will probably be variable to how the player played, and who they chose to be in the party more. If Oghren was the only character choice from Origins to come back, then they can't say an "old favorite" because he is not everyones favorite. Do you see where i'm going with this?

when they say "an old Friend" they really mean OLD. maybe it one of those kinda hints

[2020Hindsight]

Keithhy wrote...

@EJon It must be Duncan then!

On a more serious note though, Alistair is also shown in the trailer, so that's two characters from the original DA, and it completely nullifies the theory that 'Oghren must be the companion because he's the only one shown in the trailer!'

I have my fingers crossed for Shale, though I know it's never going to happen.

Assuming the storyline in the Awakening carries through with Alistair becoming .... I doubt he'd be accessible as a party member considering his position of great importance.

[Subdivide]

Keithhy wrote...

@EJon It must be Duncan then!

On a more serious note though, Alistair is also shown in the trailer, so that's two characters from the original DA, and it completely nullifies the theory that 'Oghren must be the companion because he's the only one shown in the trailer!'

I have my fingers crossed for Shale, though I know it's never going to happen.

shale is in the trailor ...so its not him

[Torias]

EJon wrote...
The way the announced the character from Origins as being an "old favorite" shows that it will probably be variable to how the player played, and who they chose to be in the party more. If Oghren was the only character choice from Origins to come back, then they can't say an "old favorite" because he is not everyones favorite. Do you see where i'm going with this?

No.

The companion from Origins is not variable.

It is fixed.

Bioware have picked ONE companion from Origins and included them in the expansion. You don't get to choose which one, Bioware chose and you get no options.

You have no say in it.

They've already done it.

"Old favourite" is meaningless marketing speak.

There's every chance the one bioware chose could be the one companion that you hated.

That'd be unfortunate, but that's just the way it is.

I'm sorry for being blunt / repetative, but lots of people are going down this wishful thinking interpretation of the words and if they build their hopes up, they're going to be mightly disapointed.

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Subdivide wrote...

Keithhy wrote...

@EJon It must be Duncan then!

On a more serious note though, Alistair is also shown in the trailer, so that's two characters from the original DA, and it completely nullifies the theory that 'Oghren must be the companion because he's the only one shown in the trailer!'

I have my fingers crossed for Shale, though I know it's never going to happen.

shale is in the trailor ...so its not him

Unless i missed him he's not in the trailer.

[SinYang]

Thats what alot of us are unhappy about, Dragon Age is meant to be an Cprg where your choices matter, yet for some of us the most important choice in the entire game was selecting who would make-up our party.

Now here comes the first expansion and that choice wont matter, which is indeed forced cannon.
People will now replay Origins always selecting Oghren because he is cannon.. If it is Oghren but thats just an example atm.

Modifié par SinYang, 10 janvier 2010 - 04:59 .

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

SinYang wrote...

Thats what alot of us are unhappy about, Dragon Age is meant to be an Cprg where your choices matter, yet for some of us the most important choice in the entire game was selecting who would make-up our party.

Now here comes the first expansion and that choice wont matter, which is indeed forced cannon.
People will now replay Origns always selecting Oghren because he is cannon.. If it is Oghren but thats just an example atm.

How do you know our choices will not matter? have you some greater knowledge of the expac than the rest of us. Oghren hasn't been announced as the returning companion until he is we shouldn't assume he is the returning companion.

[Torias]

SinYang wrote...

Thats what alot of us are unhappy about, Dragon Age is meant to be an Cprg where your choices matter, yet for some of us the most important choice in the entire game was selecting who would make-up our party.

Now here comes the first expansion and that choice wont matter, which is indeed forced cannon.
People will now replay Origns always selecting Oghren because he is cannon.. If it is Oghren but thats just an example atm.

Keep in mind that just because a character can't be in your party, doesn't meant they can't appear in the expansion as NPCs...

We'll have to wait and see how that works out, there're only a few things we actually know at this point and jumping to any conclusions (be they unrealistically positive or needlessly negative) are not really going to help us :-)

I would personally expect cameo appearances from many of the former companions...

[SinYang]

They dont matter when you load up the awakening to find your party awol.
Its like going from Neverwinter 1 OC to Shadows... eh what happened? student? wheres Aribeth?

If there are cameos for *ALL* companions... wouldnt that cost alot?

Modifié par SinYang, 10 janvier 2010 - 05:03 .

[Subdivide]

Solostran85 wrote...

Subdivide wrote...

Keithhy wrote...

@EJon It must be Duncan then!

On a more serious note though, Alistair is also shown in the trailer, so that's two characters from the original DA, and it completely nullifies the theory that 'Oghren must be the companion because he's the only one shown in the trailer!'

I have my fingers crossed for Shale, though I know it's never going to happen.

shale is in the trailor ...so its not him

Unless i missed him he's not in the trailer.

don't i feel dumb, theat was the new golem

[Torias]

SinYang wrote...

They dont matter when you load up the awakening to find your party awol.
Its like going from Neverwinter 1 OC to Shadows... eh what happened? student? wheres Aribeth?

Well,

1) We don't know how Awakening starts.
2) NWN OC and SoU were actually completely unrelated, Bioware said as much.

Here, Origins and Awakening are completely related according to Bioware... so lets see what happens?

If there are cameos for *ALL* companions... wouldnt that cost alot?

It might, but it would also be a lot cheaper than having all origins companions be possible awakening companions. We'll have to wait and see, but I truly think that a "Cameo" appearance is very different from being a full on companion, and it could provide a reasonable explanation for why they're not travelling with you... maybe they get kidnapped and you have to rescue them! (damn... that's actually a good one... ;-) ).

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

SinYang wrote...

They dont matter when you load up the awakening to find your party awol.
Its like going from Neverwinter 1 OC to Shadows... eh what happened? student? wheres Aribeth?

If there are cameos for *ALL* companions... wouldnt that cost alot?

Your major choices will indeed MATTER. Who's to say every companion will not have a cameo we do not as of yet know.
Edit: hey was that you torias? you must of thought the same thing when you read it.

Modifié par Solostran85, 10 janvier 2010 - 05:14 .

[SinYang]

Okay Torias maybe Nwn isnt a good example to use, how about Baldur's gate series. Which indeed does have some issues. Neither Shar-teel or Eldoth/sky appeared in BG2, they simply didnt exist.

maybe they get kidnapped and you have to rescue them! (damn... that's actually a good one... ;-) ).

That is a good one, especially if it is picked up again in future titles.

Solostran85 wrote...
Your major choices will indead MATTER. Who's to say every companion will not have a cameo we do not as of yet know.

The budget.

Modifié par SinYang, 10 janvier 2010 - 05:16 .

[EJon]

Well unless a Bioware developer says otherwise, i'm sticking to my theory. Your a moderator, so you aren't exactly working on the game. What your saying doesn't sound anything like Bioware. Why say that the choices you make will carry over, and then have a set companion that will come back, referring to them as an "old favorite"? I won't believe it unless i see some proof, otherwise your just speculating just as i am. Your saying Bioware has already made the choice, and because the trailer shows Oghren i guess your gonna say it was him. So what happens to people who don't regard him as their favorite? They get an "oh well, too bad for you" from Bioware? I find that hard to believe. And in regards to Alistair, so your saying that we have no choice about him being king, that he will in fact be king in the expansion even if he died, or didn't become king? I hardly believe it. If Bioware has resorted to making their content like that, then they'll lose a lot of customers.

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

SinYang wrote...

Okay Torias maybe Nwn isnt a good example to use, how about Baldur's gate series. Which indeed does have some issues. Neither Shar-teel or Eldoth/sky appeared in BG2, they simply didnt exist.

maybe they get kidnapped and you have to rescue them! (damn... that's actually a good one... ;-) ).

That is a good one, especially if it is picked up again in future titles.

Solostran85 wrote...
Your major choices will indead MATTER. Who's to say every companion will not have a cameo we do not as of yet know.

The budget.

Yes i'm sure there struggling after their very successful game's mass effect and dragon age, they must be on their last pennies.

Modifié par Solostran85, 10 janvier 2010 - 05:18 .

[Elessara]

To be fair, even if Alistair is of great importance at the ending of your game he STILL could run around with you. Maric did after all even though he was king.

[SinYang]

On that point I agree with you, im sure im not the only player to buy Origins plus Warden's Keep DLC and nearly every bioware Cprg in the not so distant past.

Modifié par SinYang, 10 janvier 2010 - 05:26 .

[Torias]

EJon wrote...

Well unless a Bioware developer says otherwise, i'm sticking to my theory. Your a moderator, so you aren't exactly working on the game. What your saying doesn't sound anything like Bioware. Why say that the choices you make will carry over, and then have a set companion that will come back, referring to them as an "old favorite"? I won't believe it unless i see some proof, otherwise your just speculating just as i am. Your saying Bioware has already made the choice, and because the trailer shows Oghren i guess your gonna say it was him. So what happens to people who don't regard him as their favorite? They get an "oh well, too bad for you" from Bioware? I find that hard to believe. And in regards to Alistair, so your saying that we have no choice about him being king, that he will in fact be king in the expansion even if he died, or didn't become king? I hardly believe it. If Bioware has resorted to making their content like that, then they'll lose a lot of customers.

1) I did not say anything about Alistair. It is most likely that the monarch in Awakening will depend on what you did in Origins. That is not what is being discussed here.

2) I said there is only one companion from Origins who is possible to use as a companion in Awakening.

I am saying this because Bioware has already clarrified this point, in this very thread in fact:

Ferret A Baudoin wrote...

Only one companion in Awakening has been seen in Origins. The rest are new characters we hope you'll enjoy bunches.

It can't get any clearer than that. Only one of the companions in Awakening was in Origins. (You can see that post by clicking the Bioware logo on this thread, it shows just the bioware ones), takes you to this link:
http://social.biowar...dex/546072&lf=8

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Kennith Shepard wrote...

Alright about the companions being npcs why would they be in Amaranthine?

Maybe to visit their friend <you>, or lend a helping hand. Something of that sort.

Modifié par Solostran85, 10 janvier 2010 - 05:31 .

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

Kennith Shepard wrote...

Hay I bet Sten is just so happy to help you ,but more than likely there to kill you.

Kill you for what? And him returning seems unlikely considering the last conversation you have with him in the end.

[SinYang]

Geez now we are helping bioware write cameos that make sense, can we get some of the royalties? 
 
Maybe Zevran went to fetch those leather boots he was after in Antiva. "I'll be back."
Zevran: "I need your clothes, boots and motorcycle."

Modifié par SinYang, 10 janvier 2010 - 05:39 .

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

SinYang wrote...

Geez now we are helping bioware write cameos that make sense, can we get some of the royalties? 
 
Maybe Zevran went to fetch those leather boots he was after in Antiva. "I'll be back."

???? I've heard no such things spoken.

Modifié par Solostran85, 10 janvier 2010 - 05:40 .