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[RavenholmeCP42]

Morrigan won't be back in DA:O's expansions folks, stop with the wishful thinking. My bets are probably on Dog (I mean, I don't see why Dog wouldn't be around, considering I'm carrying over a warden and the Mabari are fanatically loyal and all)

[XOGHunter246]

Also there are tons of War Hounds regardless they are used in battles in general.

[Darth_Trethon]

RavenholmeCP42 wrote...

Morrigan won't be back in DA:O's expansions folks, stop with the wishful thinking. My bets are probably on Dog (I mean, I don't see why Dog wouldn't be around, considering I'm carrying over a warden and the Mabari are fanatically loyal and all)

Well she is one of the few you can't miss/kill and has no other responsibilities plus there is an obvious set-up for Morrigan to appear in DLC by the fact that you cannot kill her and regardless of your choices the end result is the same.....she leaves at the end of the game.

Default wise:

Oghren is general....too bussy.
Alistair is King...too bussy.
Dog could be but I doubt it.
Loghain can die
Sten can be completely missed
Leliana can be completely missed and she can die
Zevran...you're almost encouraged to kill him when you first meet.
Morrigan....makes perfect sense.
Shale....some people may not have her period so she's deffinitely out.
Wynne....she can die on a couple of occasions so no.

With that said only Dog and Morrigan can reasonably be the returning character and I doubt it's Dog.....assuming we're not given a choice regarding who the returning character is.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 10 janvier 2010 - 07:12 .

[XOGHunter246]

I make more sense to bring the dog back out of everyone even if it not you current one as they are War Hounds part of most human army's.

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 10 janvier 2010 - 07:13 .

[XOGHunter246]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

XOGHunter246 wrote...

Also there are tons of War Hounds regardless they are used in battles in general.

I kind of don't see why BioWare wouldn't put Dog in. I mean, he doesn't have to be thought of as a "real character", just something for fans.

Plus hardly any dialog for him so not much work to add no excuses!

[TheMadCat]

EJon wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

Ashbery wrote...

The Morrigan story is going to be in DA2 and not a 15 hour expansion pack one would think.

What makes you think Awakening is going to be only 15 hours?

Maybe because the devs said so. They also said Morrigans story is not going to be in any DLC. I know, tough luck., but thats the sad little thing we call reality.

The Dev's have never given any estimate on the time aside from vague comments like "This is the longest expansion we have planned" and "It's longer then most full games that come out". No number as far as I know has ever been given, aside from the number the Czech site put out which was the 15 hours, given how accurate they were on all the other finer details I wouldn't put much stock into it.

[Darth_Trethon]

XOGHunter246 wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

XOGHunter246 wrote...

Also there are tons of War Hounds regardless they are used in battles in general.

I kind of don't see why BioWare wouldn't put Dog in. I mean, he doesn't have to be thought of as a "real character", just something for fans.

Plus hardly any dialog for him so not much work to add no excuses!

But the dog would also be the easy and cheap way out.....I doubt BioWare would start cutting corners now. On top of that the dog really isn't that poppular......like Morrigan and Alistair are.....plus Morrigan has DLC written all over her and this is the largest expansion they'll ever release for DAO and the only chance for her to be back as a party member as well as deal with her situation.

[RavenholmeCP42]

Morrigan left for Orlais, telling the Warden that he'd never see her and not to follow her, no matter what you decided to do in the end. I hardly think she's going to turn up in Amarathine a mere few months later (Considering she's travelling on foot and it'd probably take her around that long to get to Orlais) and say "Ohwait, nevermind, 'm back with/without severe bump due to god-childe"


Her child is not expansion material, it has sequel written all over it. In big, bold marker.

Modifié par RavenholmeCP42, 10 janvier 2010 - 07:27 .

[Sokegi]

EricXIII wrote...

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is this supposed to be a darkspawn? :wizard:

My theory about this guy is that he is one of those Tevinter mages that first became darkspawn. I mean, he can talk like a human, he seems to think like a human so he obviously wasn't spawned from a Broodmother. He can also use magic, which strengthens the idea of him once being a Tevinter mage. This is just a wild guess so i might be completely wrong. He might be something completely else, like a new breed of darkspawn, but i do not think so.

[TheMadCat]

Yeah no chance this expansion deals with Morrigan. Maybe a few references, perhaps a plot tie if the next project does deal with Morrigan, but I don't expect to see Morrigan's character at all.

[Darth_Trethon]

RavenholmeCP42 wrote...

Morrigan left for Orlais, telling the Warden that he'd never see her and not to follow her, no matter what you decided to do in the end. I hardly think she's going to turn up in Amarathine a mere few months later (Considering she's travelling on foot and it'd probably take her around that long to get to Orlais) and say "Ohwait, nevermind, 'm back with/without severe bump due to god-childe"

Well the warden can and in my case always does tell her that he'll find her. Sure she says that but the DLC set-up is just too obvious. The end-game text clearly says that the questions about her remain a mystery "for now". The Architect in the end appears to have been the brains behind the darkspawn since befor the archdemon.....maybe before the other archdemons as well. He may well be a threat larger than the Archdemon and running won't help Morrigan if nobody can stop him......plus i doubt she wants the civilized world to be wiped out.....after Ferelden come Orlais and Antiva so yeah.

[RavenholmeCP42]

He's the good old architect, and I think he mentions in The Calling that he was born, just was... different.



You know what'd be quite a kicker? If he was the result of something like Morrigan's plan, and then he got corrupted.

[SuperMaoriFulla]

Umm... How much voice talent work would they need to bring Dog back for DA:A? I know Mabari Hounds are intelligent but if Dog starts conversing with you in Scooby speak then I'll be flabbergasted...

Modifié par SuperMaoriFulla, 10 janvier 2010 - 07:34 .

[RavenholmeCP42]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

RavenholmeCP42 wrote...

Morrigan left for Orlais, telling the Warden that he'd never see her and not to follow her, no matter what you decided to do in the end. I hardly think she's going to turn up in Amarathine a mere few months later (Considering she's travelling on foot and it'd probably take her around that long to get to Orlais) and say "Ohwait, nevermind, 'm back with/without severe bump due to god-childe"

Well the warden can and in my case always does tell her that he'll find her. Sure she says that but the DLC set-up is just too obvious. The end-game text clearly says that the questions about her remain a mystery "for now". The Architect in the end appears to have been the brains behind the darkspawn since befor the archdemon.....maybe before the other archdemons as well. He may well be a threat larger than the Archdemon and running won't help Morrigan if nobody can stop him......plus i doubt she wants the civilized world to be wiped out.....after Ferelden come Orlais and Antiva so yeah.

But how will she know about The Architect and his gang? She's run off to Orlais and maybe even beyond, and has no official contact with the Grey Wardens, who aren't likely to tell her anyway, since they're a secretive bunch. I sincerely doubt she's coming back, but I will eat my words if I'm wrong. And "For Now" in no way supports a DLC-definite hypothesis, no more than it supports the sequel one, anyway.

[Darth_Trethon]

TheMadCat wrote...

Yeah no chance this expansion deals with Morrigan. Maybe a few references, perhaps a plot tie if the next project does deal with Morrigan, but I don't expect to see Morrigan's character at all.

There won't be any other expansion even close to as large as this and I doubt a 2-4 hour DLC can propperly deal with the issue. Not to mention that the only other alternative is the dog and BioWare will catch a lot of criticism for cutting corners on a 40 dollar epansion. That's almost as much as we paid for the game itself and getting a character without any dialogue would ****** off a lot of people.

[RavenholmeCP42]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

Yeah no chance this expansion deals with Morrigan. Maybe a few references, perhaps a plot tie if the next project does deal with Morrigan, but I don't expect to see Morrigan's character at all.

There won't be any other expansion even close to as large as this and I doubt a 2-4 hour DLC can propperly deal with the issue. Not to mention that the only other alternative is the dog and BioWare will catch a lot of criticism for cutting corners on a 40 dollar epansion. That's almost as much as we paid for the game itself and getting a character without any dialogue would ****** off a lot of people.

Devs said way back that the game series is going to be a trilogy. Ergo, the large issue of Morrigan is definitely sequel material. A 15 - 30 hour expansion simply cannot deal with the implications of Morrigan's god-childe. Though I reckon it will be heavily based on ME2's plot carry-over. Which means that in DA2, she could/could not have the god child. Though there is a chance they may pull a deux ex machina

[XOGHunter246]

What they should of done is added dog as well as the old favorite and don't take the word Bioware used old favorite so literally they just mean a old companion will be involved. As a lot of people like Morrigan and she definitely will not be involved.

[Darth_Trethon]

RavenholmeCP42 wrote...

But how will she know about The Architect and his gang? She's run off to Orlais and maybe even beyond, and has no official contact with the Grey Wardens, who aren't likely to tell her anyway, since they're a secretive bunch. I sincerely doubt she's coming back, but I will eat my words if I'm wrong. And "For Now" in no way supports a DLC-definite hypothesis, no more than it supports the sequel one, anyway.

I don't see why not. At the very least she can sense the darkspawn aren't gone underground as they should be and her magic can help her discover the rest. And in theis case YES "For Now" does mean something since BioWare IS making 2 years of DLC and they have never allowed us to be without something to look forward to. The fact is that they have her clearly set up for DLC.....there is a potentially demon child on the way and you cannot kill her at all.

[TheMadCat]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

There won't be any other expansion even close to as large as this and I doubt a 2-4 hour DLC can propperly deal with the issue. Not to mention that the only other alternative is the dog and BioWare will catch a lot of criticism for cutting corners on a 40 dollar epansion. That's almost as much as we paid for the game itself and getting a character without any dialogue would ****** off a lot of people.

Just becasue there won't be another expansion as large as this doesn't mean there won't be another large expansion, or any expansion at that. As I've said before I do not see Morrigan's story playing second banana and I don't see how or why Morrigan would want to come back and be a companion if she is several months pregnant and everything has gone according to her plan, this is of course assuming she somehow knew whatever events are about to happen were about to unfold and she decided to make the trip back from Orlais where she just went. It well be dealt with eventually someway somehow, there is no doubt about that. I just don't see anyway it's dealt with in Awakening that would make any real sense.

[MoSa09]

***SPOILERS***

Despite fearing i repeat myself here, but the gold child is a possibility in the end you can choose to have, but you can also refuse to have.
And the devs also said that important decisions will carry over, and i guess no one will disagree that this one is an important decision.
So argument's what she can do or cannot do based on the fact that she has a god child are simply not valid (btw, she only goes to Orlais if you do not have that child and never romanced her, otherwise the epilogue only mentions the Frostback mountains).
The game is also playable if you refused her offer and therefore she won't be pregnant, and the reasons for bringing her back or leaving her out will most likely reflect both possible outcomes and won't be tied to just one outcome

Modifié par MoSa09, 10 janvier 2010 - 07:46 .

[Darth_Trethon]

XOGHunter246 wrote...

What they should of done is added dog as well as the old favorite and don't take the word Bioware used old favorite so literally they just mean a old companion will be involved. As a lot of people like Morrigan and she definitely will not be involved.

You know that makes no sense whatsoever right? She IS a fan favorite so she cannot be because you assume they weren't serious when they said "fan favorite"? That's complete nonsense.....and WHY are you so ready to assume they will be cutting corners now? When has BioWare ever cut corners in terms of story development?

[XOGHunter246]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

XOGHunter246 wrote...

What they should of done is added dog as well as the old favorite and don't take the word Bioware used old favorite so literally they just mean a old companion will be involved. As a lot of people like Morrigan and she definitely will not be involved.

You know that makes no sense whatsoever right? She IS a fan favorite so she cannot be because you assume they weren't serious when they said "fan favorite"? That's complete nonsense.....and WHY are you so ready to assume they will be cutting corners now? When has BioWare ever cut corners in terms of story development?

I did not say they going cutting corners you assuming I am saying they will add the dog I'm saying they should of added Dog regardless. I'm not saying they will add the Dog I am saying they should of for the fact they used in battle in general. It's Bioware making no sense say old FAVORITE.  If it was really a favorite it be Alistair playable or Morrigan even Leliana. Morrigan is for DAO2 not a expansion.......

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 10 janvier 2010 - 07:53 .

[Darth_Trethon]

XOGHunter246 wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

XOGHunter246 wrote...

What they should of done is added dog as well as the old favorite and don't take the word Bioware used old favorite so literally they just mean a old companion will be involved. As a lot of people like Morrigan and she definitely will not be involved.

You know that makes no sense whatsoever right? She IS a fan favorite so she cannot be because you assume they weren't serious when they said "fan favorite"? That's complete nonsense.....and WHY are you so ready to assume they will be cutting corners now? When has BioWare ever cut corners in terms of story development?

I did not say they going cutting corners you assuming I am saying they will add the dog I'm saying they should of added Dog regardless. I'm not saying they will add the Dog I am saying they should of for the fact they used in battle in general. It's Bioware making no sense say old FAVORITE.  If it was really a favorite it be Alistair playable or Morrigan even Leliana. Morrigan is for DAO2 not a expansion.......

And who told you that? Seriously with 2 years of DLC you assume that Morrigan is ONLY to show up in a sequel? I doubt we'll even have the same PC in DA2 so the issues between our warden and her will need to be settled before then. That's not saying she won't be in DA2 by any means but saying she won't show up before DA2 is a bit ridiculous.

I've already explained why most of the other characters aren't exactly qualified for returning so there aren't a whole lot of options left. I'd say it's a safe bet for morrigan to show up in some DLC or expansion before DA2 AND in DA2.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 10 janvier 2010 - 08:00 .

[EverlastingFantasy]

I hope zevran will be in the x-pac!! If not I wil cry