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[Mawens]

InvaderErl wrote...

Mawens wrote...

Yes it is obvious that Alistair is the returning character.
In the trailer he says: I already missed all the Darkspawen killing thing and then the music starts.
Maybe he's king and so what. He can still fight and be a Grey Warden.

Oghren is in two party shots, Alistair is in none.

Oghren is returning.

Yes maybe he is.

[savagesparrow]

Maybe. But there's plenty of NPCs in the world that have similar hairstyles/facial shapes to your party members. Like there's that one templar guy that I =think= is right by the mage tower who has Alistair's exact hairstlye and haircolor. So it happens.



And yeah, Kings do go on crazy quests--look at Cailen's padre. Though I agree that Ali probably isn't the returning companion...I hope he is, but somehow I doubt it =(



I bet though it'll be like, Dog or something. That'd be just like them to go, "We never said the companion was a PERSON! Fwahahaha!" XD

[Odin2040]

Valmy wrote...

Wishpig wrote...
The only question is what happens with player characters who died...

There is a new origin.  You transfer your dead character over and all of his/her choices transfer then you create the new Grey Warden Commander coming over from Orlais.

That was basically my question too. Has this been confirmed though?

[Wournos]

InvaderErl wrote...

Mawens wrote...

Yes it is obvious that Alistair is the returning character.
In the trailer he says: I already missed all the Darkspawen killing thing and then the music starts.
Maybe he's king and so what. He can still fight and be a Grey Warden.

Oghren is in two party shots, Alistair is in none.

Oghren is returning.

I don't see the facination with Oghren. Sure he had some funny comments ("Shave my back and call me an elf!") but that was it. And from my first playthrough, I believe I heard/read that Alistair died. He wasn't in the Landsmeet hall after slaying the Archdemon. I'd rather see Leliana return to my dwarven girl.

[1079036]

Oghren is hardly an old favorite.

Why can't someone confirm the estimate gameplay time already?

[Upper_Krust]

1079036 wrote...

Why can't someone confirm the estimate gameplay time already?

Why does it need confirming? The current evidence* already suggests the game will be approx. 50% as big (or slightly more) than DA Origins.

*The Level Cap is being raised to mid to high 30's.

DA Origins has a level cap of 25. Awakening has a level Cap of between 35-39 (Lets say 37). Thus you'll probably ascend about 12-13 levels from playing Awakening.

So if everything in the game increases 50% (not saying it will of course, but you never know, its a decent enough guideline) we might expect:

*Tier 10 Materials and Equipment
*Talents and Spells to Rank 6
*2 New Specializations for each class
*Runes up to Rank 7
etc.

[miraclemight]

I think you can even kill Oghren. Can anyone confirm that the fight with him ends without him getting slained?



As for Alistair:



Grey Wardens can invoke the Right to recruit everyone, even a prince or king. Of course he might *spoiler* die during the Archdemon battle, but it's DA... spirits roam free for fun! (I'd pay to see a Stumbling Enraged Alistair as a party member!lol)



All in all it depends on who the writers want to bring back, since in DA universe 'dead' doesn't truly exist, imo.



Hmm...and talking about spirits, does anyone know who that spirit in the trailer is?

[1079036]

Upper_Krust wrote...

1079036 wrote...

Why can't someone confirm the estimate gameplay time already?

Why does it need confirming? The current evidence* already suggests the game will be approx. 50% as big (or slightly more) than DA Origins.

*The Level Cap is being raised to mid to high 30's.

DA Origins has a level cap of 25. Awakening has a level Cap of between 35-39 (Lets say 37). Thus you'll probably ascend about 12-13 levels from playing Awakening.

So if everything in the game increases 50% (not saying it will of course, but you never know, its a decent enough guideline) we might expect:

*Tier 10 Materials and Equipment
*Talents and Spells to Rank 6
*2 New Specializations for each class
*Runes up to Rank 7
etc.

And what's the point of mentioning things that have not been confirmed?
What current evidence are you talking about?
And where do you come up with that 50% content?
The level cap?????
I got to level 7 in less than 3 hours.
If you want to use level cap as an indicater, that roughly 6.5 hour of gameplay,
which is much worse than the 15 hours rumor we been hearing.
(40 - 25) / (7 / 3) 
And you do know that monster level scales according to your level right?

Some people do have "limited time offer" coupons and discounts that can be used for this expansion.
And that's the reason I asked about the gameplay time.

Modifié par 1079036, 24 janvier 2010 - 12:55 .

[Serion amakiir]

i have a question, when the bloody hell are they gonna give us a god damn date for the releas of RTO pc version cause right now they are almost 20 days overdue and its really starting to ****** me off??

[TheMadCat]

How'd you get to level 7 in 3 hours? You can't hit 7 until Lothering and unless you constantly skip dialogue and rush through the main track only there is no way in you did 7 in 3 hours.



But that's besides the point. Use your head a second. Do you really think going from level 25-35/39 is going to be the same as going from 1-13? Wouldn't it be more accurate to assume that the pace would be closer to what you were seeing towards the end of the game? Meaning 2-4 hours per level depending on where you were and your play style.

I think you can even kill Oghren. Can anyone confirm that the fight with him ends without him getting slained?

Oghren never dies no matter what you do.

[1079036]

TheMadCat wrote...

How'd you get to level 7 in 3 hours? You can't hit 7 until Lothering and unless you constantly skip dialogue and rush through the main track only there is no way in you did 7 in 3 hours.

But that's besides the point. Use your head a second. Do you really think going from level 25-35/39 is going to be the same as going from 1-13? Wouldn't it be more accurate to assume that the pace would be closer to what you were seeing towards the end of the game? Meaning 2-4 hours per level depending on where you were and your play style.

It was pretty easy actually.
Rush yes, but I did not skip any dialogue.

Origin story
Various tiny quests at Lothering
3 chantry board quests at Lothering
1  random quest during travel
Shale quest. (Incomplete)

By the way, don't let Ser Jory/Deveth/Tower Guard/Temporary companion steal your experience

 
On my last playthrough, I beat the game in 30 hours.  At the end, I was level 24.
And yes, I did complete every single quests. (except the rogue only quest at Denerim)
If you do the math (see above), that's still roughly 15 hours of gameplay for the expansion.

The expansion costs $40 and the original costs $50
Do you think that the expnsion has roughly 80% of the content of the original game?

Modifié par 1079036, 24 janvier 2010 - 02:29 .

[TheMadCat]

So you're going to base your math off of a rushed play through? Let's remember your 30 hours is well below the average play through which seems to be 50-70 hours. Once again lets use common sense, wouldn't the average be a better variable to plug in rather then the one where you burned through to see how fast you could beat it?

[1079036]

TheMadCat wrote...

So you're going to base your math off of a rushed play through? Let's remember your 30 hours is well below the average play through which seems to be 50-70 hours. Once again lets use common sense, wouldn't the average be a better variable to plug in rather then the one where you burned through to see how fast you could beat it?

Lore wise, I did not miss any story.
Let me repeat again, I did not skip any dialogue and I completed every single quest.
The only difference is that I did not stop in the middle of nowhere to look at the scenery.
And where did you get your "average" playtime?
Even on my first playthrough, I did not go over 45.
If I truely rush through the entire game, it wouldn't even take me 30 hours.
By the way, I was not the one who started the whole level cap = playtime analogy
I merely asked if someone can confirm the "official estimated playtime."
Money wise, I wonder if the expansion has 80% of the content of the original game.

Modifié par 1079036, 24 janvier 2010 - 04:57 .

[Bakillington]

Wournos wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Mawens wrote...

Yes it is obvious that Alistair is the returning character.
In the trailer he says: I already missed all the Darkspawen killing thing and then the music starts.
Maybe he's king and so what. He can still fight and be a Grey Warden.

Oghren is in two party shots, Alistair is in none.

Oghren is returning.

I don't see the facination with Oghren. Sure he had some funny comments ("Shave my back and call me an elf!") but that was it. And from my first playthrough, I believe I heard/read that Alistair died. He wasn't in the Landsmeet hall after slaying the Archdemon. I'd rather see Leliana return to my dwarven girl.

My favorite quote was "well fart me a lullaby!" after checking out the golem tablet

[TheMadCat]

1079036 wrote...



And where did you get your "average" playtime?

Forums, reviewers both amateur and professional, polls, and people I talk with. I rarely see anyone say they beat the game in less then 50 hours and none of them say they did every little thing. Maybe if you play one easy or on the console where the game goes quicker.

By the way, I was not the one who started the whole level cap = playtime analogy
I merely asked if someone can confirm the "official estimated playtime."
Money wise, I wonder if the expansion has 80% of the content of the original game.

I know, I just thought it was silly the way you were attacking it. There is no actual number and the closest we have to an "offical estimated playtime" are Melo's comments about the level likely to end up somewhere in the mid to upper 30's which is why it was brought up. Now how you want to decipher that comment is up to you, the popular number guessed up by us civilians is around 30 hours and I think that's a fair assumption. But the problem with that "estimate" is that, for example the two of us, have about 20-30 hours difference between our average playthroughs, so while it may be 30 hours for me it'll be something closer to 10-15 for you. Variety is a **** to take into account.

[fangs131]

Might have been said on one of the other97 pages but i got beter things to d othen spend 2 hours reading. What makes you think that there is a snowballs chance in hell that this is going to hapen in the time frame. Last time that thay anounced something was comeing out it was a lil download and that still ant out and working right. I for one am feed up with Bio. and EA i will not be wasting my money on this or any more of there games I will just hope that some day Bio. will go and cut the inbilical cord once EA got you you have flownderd. But gess till then ill be playing good games like BG,BG2, IWD,IWD2,NWN,NWN2 do we see a patern hear cuse i do. Well this will probly get removed for some reason like Ray Muzyka or Gregory P. Zeschuk oh my bad Dr.Gregory P. Zeschuk dont want every one to think of how good it was befor thay got into bed with PS and Xbox.

[Mawens]

Wournos wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Mawens wrote...

Yes it is obvious that Alistair is the returning character.
In the trailer he says: I already missed all the Darkspawen killing thing and then the music starts.
Maybe he's king and so what. He can still fight and be a Grey Warden.

Oghren is in two party shots, Alistair is in none.

Oghren is returning.

I don't see the facination with Oghren. Sure he had some funny comments ("Shave my back and call me an elf!") but that was it. And from my first playthrough, I believe I heard/read that Alistair died. He wasn't in the Landsmeet hall after slaying the Archdemon. I'd rather see Leliana return to my dwarven girl.

"SPOILER"

That's because you have chosen to sacrifise Alistair. In my playthrough Alistair is the new king.

[Mawens]

1079036 wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

So you're going to base your math off of a rushed play through? Let's remember your 30 hours is well below the average play through which seems to be 50-70 hours. Once again lets use common sense, wouldn't the average be a better variable to plug in rather then the one where you burned through to see how fast you could beat it?

Lore wise, I did not miss any story.
Let me repeat again, I did not skip any dialogue and I completed every single quest.
The only difference is that I did not stop in the middle of nowhere to look at the scenery.
And where did you get your "average" playtime?
Even on my first playthrough, I did not go over 45.
If I truely rush through the entire game, it wouldn't even take me 30 hours.
By the way, I was not the one who started the whole level cap = playtime analogy
I merely asked if someone can confirm the "official estimated playtime."
Money wise, I wonder if the expansion has 80% of the content of the original game.

Ohh yeah. You are really cool. I see. Cool guy. No. You are not cool even if you have completed the game in "30" hours. Like you did. And your first time?? 45 hours. You can't. At least not completed all quests and so on.

[Dollgan]

miraclemight wrote...

I think you can even kill Oghren. Can anyone confirm that the fight with him ends without him getting slained?

As for Alistair:

Grey Wardens can invoke the Right to recruit everyone, even a prince or king. Of course he might *spoiler* die during the Archdemon battle, but it's DA... spirits roam free for fun! (I'd pay to see a Stumbling Enraged Alistair as a party member!lol)

All in all it depends on who the writers want to bring back, since in DA universe 'dead' doesn't truly exist, imo.

Hmm...and talking about spirits, does anyone know who that spirit in the trailer is?

My first thought was Cailan

[ben hodgson92]

Mawens wrote...

Wournos wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Mawens wrote...

Yes it is obvious that Alistair is the returning character.
In the trailer he says: I already missed all the Darkspawen killing thing and then the music starts.
Maybe he's king and so what. He can still fight and be a Grey Warden.

Oghren is in two party shots, Alistair is in none.

Oghren is returning.

I don't see the facination with Oghren. Sure he had some funny comments ("Shave my back and call me an elf!") but that was it. And from my first playthrough, I believe I heard/read that Alistair died. He wasn't in the Landsmeet hall after slaying the Archdemon. I'd rather see Leliana return to my dwarven girl.

"SPOILER"

That's because you have chosen to sacrifise Alistair. In my playthrough Alistair is the new king.

also if you take loghain and make his daughter queen, doesnt he rebel in the epilogue and die?

[ben hodgson92]

Dollgan wrote...

miraclemight wrote...

I think you can even kill Oghren. Can anyone confirm that the fight with him ends without him getting slained?

As for Alistair:

Grey Wardens can invoke the Right to recruit everyone, even a prince or king. Of course he might *spoiler* die during the Archdemon battle, but it's DA... spirits roam free for fun! (I'd pay to see a Stumbling Enraged Alistair as a party member!lol)

All in all it depends on who the writers want to bring back, since in DA universe 'dead' doesn't truly exist, imo.

Hmm...and talking about spirits, does anyone know who that spirit in the trailer is?

My first thought was Cailan

mine too:P

[Alex109222]

that spirit in the trailer looks like loghain to me

[Mawens]

ben hodgson92 wrote...

Mawens wrote...

Wournos wrote...

InvaderErl wrote...

Mawens wrote...

Yes it is obvious that Alistair is the returning character.
In the trailer he says: I already missed all the Darkspawen killing thing and then the music starts.
Maybe he's king and so what. He can still fight and be a Grey Warden.

Oghren is in two party shots, Alistair is in none.

Oghren is returning.

I don't see the facination with Oghren. Sure he had some funny comments ("Shave my back and call me an elf!") but that was it. And from my first playthrough, I believe I heard/read that Alistair died. He wasn't in the Landsmeet hall after slaying the Archdemon. I'd rather see Leliana return to my dwarven girl.

"SPOILER"

That's because you have chosen to sacrifise Alistair. In my playthrough Alistair is the new king.

also if you take loghain and make his daughter queen, doesnt he rebel in the epilogue and die?

Well Loghain can sacrifice himself at the battle with the archdemon.

[Upper_Krust]

1079036 wrote...

And what's the point of mentioning things that have not been confirmed?

It has been confirmed that the Level Cap is being raised somewhere between Level 35-39.

What current evidence are you talking about?

The Level Cap evidence.

And where do you come up with that 50% content?

The current Level Cap is 25, if the new level cap is 37 then we can expect about 50% the content of the first game.

The level cap?????
I got to level 7 in less than 3 hours.

The original game is set-up to accomodate about 20 levels (most people reach in and around Level 19-21 by the end). That means the game is probably at its median point at around Levels 9-11. The time taken to go up a Level from 9-11 is about the average for the whole game. At lower levels you ascend quicker, at higher levels you ascend slower.

Awakening is tailored for about 12-13 levels starting from about Level 19-21. Therefore that game will probably have a median point of about Levels 26-27. Meaning Levels 21-25 will be attained quicker than Levels 28-33.

But my guess is that the overall time taken to level up will be the same as in Dragon Age Origins.

If you want to use level cap as an indicater, that roughly 6.5 hour of gameplay,
which is much worse than the 15 hours rumor we been hearing.
(40 - 25) / (7 / 3) 

That 15 hours of content could be the actual combat time. When I played through DAO I spent a significant amount of time in the Inventory, setting tactics and balancing my characters equipment, not to mention exploration and the occasional bit of back-tracking. I doubt there was more than 30 hours combat time in the first game, yet the whole thing took me approx. 60 hours.

And you do know that monster level scales according to your level right?

I know that monster levels scale according to Bioware's instructions. I see no logical reason why they would dramatically change the levelling dynamic for the expansion.

Theres no reason why Bioware would want characters to level-up either notably faster or notably slower.  

Some people do have "limited time offer" coupons and discounts that can be used for this expansion.
And that's the reason I asked about the gameplay time.

I fail to see how thats relevant to gameplay time?

[V_182]

Is there any news about Awakening being multilingual?
I don't wanna buy the german version if there's no option to play it in english...