Aller au contenu

Photo

Acolyte Nerf, but what about Phantoms?


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
185 réponses à ce sujet

#51
victobael

victobael
  • Members
  • 116 messages
The thing is, for classes that can't deal with Phantoms efficiently, they pretty much have to use the Acolyte. Seeing as that what most people mainly use it for, I think that's enough indication that something needs to be done regarding Phantoms.

The Falcon and scorpion are also phantom buster's

#52
BellHanger

BellHanger
  • Members
  • 136 messages
himohillo WTF is that thing it scares me O.o

#53
Dunvi

Dunvi
  • Members
  • 4 841 messages
... I can't think of a single class that needs an acolyte to handle phantoms.

#54
DJ Airsurfer

DJ Airsurfer
  • Members
  • 2 548 messages

Enhanced wrote...

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

Let's just forget the main reason to why people use the Acolyte.

How about you fix Phantoms instead, biower? Mobile as Dragoons and Nemesi combined, they have a mass accelerator cannon in their palm, they have staggering melees, they don't need to melee you for a sync kill, they can sync kill through staggers, AND TO BOOT -- they have insane DR.

I'm tired of gun nerfs and character nerfs, how about you fix the enemies for once?


They always melee before an instakill. If two players are in a Phantom's close range, she may melee one player, and instakill the other.


I got synced by a Phantom while she was staggered, and no, she hadn't meleed anyone.

#55
jpan89

jpan89
  • Members
  • 205 messages
The Javelin can one-shot them on platinum lol
They're fine.

#56
himohillo

himohillo
  • Members
  • 877 messages

BellHanger wrote...

himohillo WTF is that thing it scares me O.o


It's volus. Why do you think they wear those masks? Because of atmosphere or whatever nonsense they spread? Lies, all lies. They just hide their ugly faces.

#57
DJ Airsurfer

DJ Airsurfer
  • Members
  • 2 548 messages

victobael wrote...

The thing is, for classes that can't deal with Phantoms efficiently, they pretty much have to use the Acolyte. Seeing as that what most people mainly use it for, I think that's enough indication that something needs to be done regarding Phantoms.

The Falcon and scorpion are also phantom buster's


Scorpion is unreliable and Falcon can kill your cooldowns. Acolyte is the best choice, light, easy to use, efficient.

#58
BlackbirdSR-71C

BlackbirdSR-71C
  • Members
  • 1 516 messages

InstaShark wrote...

Submission Net


How to tell a player is new to MP.

#59
DJ Airsurfer

DJ Airsurfer
  • Members
  • 2 548 messages

BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

Submission Net

How to tell a player is new to MP.


Submission Net is good, better than stasis in fact.

#60
victobael

victobael
  • Members
  • 116 messages
Scorpion is unreliable and Falcon can kill your cooldowns. Acolyte is the best choice, light, easy to use, efficient.
Im not saying its not but your making the phantom seem invincible they are not they are actually very easy to kill even on gold heck.... id rather take on a phantom then an atlas though they both are easy to kill. Plus you acting like they are doing away with the acolyte .. im no fan of nerf's .. but there are many way's to kill phantom the geth trooper comes to mind.

#61
drmoose00

drmoose00
  • Members
  • 1 971 messages
acolyte makes phantoms a joke, but.... there are a lot of other ways to deal with them

scorpion
GPS
prox mine
grenades
stasis
black widow
etc...

I am sure there are a lot more. I think ballistic blades too (?)

#62
DJ Airsurfer

DJ Airsurfer
  • Members
  • 2 548 messages

victobael wrote...

Im not saying its not but your making the phantom seem invincible they are not they are actually very easy to kill even on gold heck.... id rather take on a phantom then an atlas though they both are easy to kill. Plus you acting like they are doing away with the acolyte .. im no fan of nerf's .. but there are many way's to kill phantom the geth trooper comes to mind.


Again with this, I'm not going to use a single class to deal with ONE enemy just because BioWare won't fix something that's broken.

Not invincible? Yeah, about that. Try killing a Phantom on gold, on host, with a Carnifex on a Cryo-Havoc efficiently. When you've done that, I'll accept that I'm wrong.

#63
tfoltz

tfoltz
  • Members
  • 666 messages
I would love to see how most of the people here quickly deal with multiple phantoms on platinum without a stagger power/weapon or acolyte. Some of the recommendations here only work on paper. Their damage reduction is ridiculous and negates most things.

Modifié par tfoltz, 04 décembre 2012 - 06:15 .


#64
STRANGE10VE

STRANGE10VE
  • Members
  • 749 messages
Wraith to head is a tried and true method of dealing with phantoms.

#65
Blitzkrieg_33

Blitzkrieg_33
  • Members
  • 1 432 messages
People actually have a hard time killing phantoms?

#66
victobael

victobael
  • Members
  • 116 messages
Wraith to head is a tried and true method of dealing with phantoms.
Or talon.. :)

#67
DJ Airsurfer

DJ Airsurfer
  • Members
  • 2 548 messages

Blitzkrieg_33 wrote...

People actually have a hard time killing phantoms?


When using ****ty weapons on a sub-par class while on host, yes.

#68
DJ Airsurfer

DJ Airsurfer
  • Members
  • 2 548 messages

victobael wrote...

Wraith to head is a tried and true method of dealing with phantoms.
Or talon.. :)


I packed a Wraith for backup, still did jack sh!t with all the DR.

#69
JGDD

JGDD
  • Members
  • 2 106 messages

HolyAvenger wrote...

Just fix the effing on host DR. She shouldn't shrug off a Javelin shot to the head like it was a mosquito bite.


So much this. The phantom is not terribly hard to deal with if someone else is hosting. In a solo game though they can be formidable with her break dancing DR that never stops if you so much as look in their direction. And I don't want to always use an instant-cast class nor have to rely on an acolyte to slow them down. Certain other weapons work well against them but I can only carry so many.

#70
waltervolpatto

waltervolpatto
  • Members
  • 1 471 messages

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

victobael wrote...

Im not saying its not but your making the phantom seem invincible they are not they are actually very easy to kill even on gold heck.... id rather take on a phantom then an atlas though they both are easy to kill. Plus you acting like they are doing away with the acolyte .. im no fan of nerf's .. but there are many way's to kill phantom the geth trooper comes to mind.


Again with this, I'm not going to use a single class to deal with ONE enemy just because BioWare won't fix something that's broken.

Not invincible? Yeah, about that. Try killing a Phantom on gold, on host, with a Carnifex on a Cryo-Havoc efficiently. When you've done that, I'll accept that I'm wrong.


Paladin is better than a carniflex..

Headshot works pretty well!

#71
Chevyboy88

Chevyboy88
  • Members
  • 700 messages
Pretty sure the OP is trolling. If not then you sir might just be the worst ME3 player! Phantom's are the easiest boss unit in the game since all you have to do to remove all threat from one is drop their barriers.

#72
P51Mus7ang

P51Mus7ang
  • Members
  • 4 745 messages
Not that we have a choice but let's see what happens, it might not be all that bad, I have seen many downward changes which did not have a major impact, yes I have seen a few things destroyed also. We do have other options in weapons as well, and yes I carry this thing as a 2nd often, if a Phantom appears it comes out, otherwise it stays in the holster for the most part.

#73
WMcAlister

WMcAlister
  • Members
  • 937 messages
Yeah, I've had real hit or miss (badum-dum-dum) luck with teh Wraith against these little annoyances.

Sometimes, yeah headshot=headshot, ninja fall down go splat. Cartwheel DR, fine, I get it. Standing perfectly still, no bubble, Wraith to the face, half barriers gone...what the?

#74
InstaShark

InstaShark
  • Members
  • 2 765 messages

BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

Submission Net


How to tell a player is new to MP.


I've played MP ever since the demo. The fact that you think Submission Net is bad goes to show how narrow-minded you are.

#75
Princess Rolf

Princess Rolf
  • Members
  • 201 messages

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

Submission Net
Stasis
Cryo Explosions with the N7 Paladin

Those are a few alternatives


So I have to use a select few of classes to deal with ONE enemy? Do you know how dumb that is?


No, but you have to realize that not all kits are capable against every singel type of enemy. If you have problem with Phantoms, let someone else on your team handle them, or equip ammo IV of Warp/Incendiary for starters. Then when you l2p, you could try other ammos. She isn´t hard on any difficulty and on Gold she is just a piece of apple and cinnamon cream pie.