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[KingZayd]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The quarians attempted genocide, the geth responded with genocide.

+1

[Steelcan]

KingZayd wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
"I doubt it was more than a convienent field repair"

"Why didn't you fix it sooner? Or with something else?"
".... No data available"

Precisely, no evidence of sentiment

[thearbiter1337]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The quarians attempted genocide, the geth responded with genocide.

Two wrongs don't make a right

[Steelcan]

KingZayd wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The quarians attempted genocide, the geth responded with genocide.

+1

Attempted being the key word.  The geth were too zealous in their retribution.

[The Night Mammoth]

Steelcan wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
"I doubt it was more than a convienent field repair"

"Why didn't you fix it sooner? Or with something else?"
".... No data available"

Precisely, no evidence of sentiment

That's just blatant denial of the intent behind the scene. 

[m2iCodeJockey]

KingZayd wrote...

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

KingZayd wrote...
Question though: In the case of quantum teleportation, where a person's body would be disintegrated on one end, and then reassembled on the other, would you count that as death of 1 person, and the appearance or another?

If the reassembly is made of the matter from the origin, I'd say the person was temporarily unreadable but, cannot be immediately assumed as brain-dead.
I think a special provision is going to have to be made for matter that gets lost in the process.

The matter disappears from existance. And equivalent matter appears on the other end.

Yep. That is a new person. The old person experienced brain death by modern definition.
Make sure to leave your doppelganger your possessions...

[sr2josh]

I always end up going for peace between the Quarians and Geth only to choose the Destroy ending. Thus wiping the Geth out after using them as cannon fodder to defeat the Reapers. What the Quarians tried to do was horrible but cannot even compare to the unmerciful genocide the Geth carried out. Not to mention severely polluting Rannoch and preventing the Quarians from returning. What did the Geth need with holding onto Rannoch? Why did they need to hold onto any planet?

[Steelcan]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
"I doubt it was more than a convienent field repair"

"Why didn't you fix it sooner? Or with something else?"
".... No data available"

Precisely, no evidence of sentiment

That's just blatant denial of the intent behind the scene. 

Even EDI denies that the geth have preferences like organics, and she,  do

[KingZayd]

Steelcan wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The quarians attempted genocide, the geth responded with genocide.

+1

Attempted being the key word.  The geth were too zealous in their retribution.

Failure is no more moral than success.

[KingZayd]

Steelcan wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
"I doubt it was more than a convienent field repair"

"Why didn't you fix it sooner? Or with something else?"
".... No data available"

Precisely, no evidence of sentiment

If there was a logical reason, there would have been data.

[Steelcan]

KingZayd wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The quarians attempted genocide, the geth responded with genocide.

+1

Attempted being the key word.  The geth were too zealous in their retribution.

Failure is no more moral than success.

"Morality" a watchword for those too weak to stomach what must be done.

[spirosz]

You know, I believe the Geth would of been better if they weren't part of the "enemy faction" and written in the story in a way that wouldn't conflict with gameplay. Might of gave them better justice.

[KingZayd]

Steelcan wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
"I doubt it was more than a convienent field repair"

"Why didn't you fix it sooner? Or with something else?"
".... No data available"

Precisely, no evidence of sentiment

That's just blatant denial of the intent behind the scene. 

Even EDI denies that the geth have preferences like organics, and she,  do

What did she say exactly?

And what would make EDI such a big expert on the Geth?

[KingZayd]

Steelcan wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The quarians attempted genocide, the geth responded with genocide.

+1

Attempted being the key word.  The geth were too zealous in their retribution.

Failure is no more moral than success.

"Morality" a watchword for those too weak to stomach what must be done.

Then so is overzealous. The only crime that the Geth are guilty of and that the Quarians are not (in this case) is success.

[spirosz]

KingZayd wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The quarians attempted genocide, the geth responded with genocide.

+1

You know, that's a good way to put it.  

[Steelcan]

KingZayd wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The quarians attempted genocide, the geth responded with genocide.

+1

Attempted being the key word.  The geth were too zealous in their retribution.

Failure is no more moral than success.

"Morality" a watchword for those too weak to stomach what must be done.

Then so is overzealous. The only crime that the Geth are guilty of and that the Quarians are not (in this case) is success.

And murder

[KingZayd]

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

m2iCodeJockey wrote...

KingZayd wrote...
Question though: In the case of quantum teleportation, where a person's body would be disintegrated on one end, and then reassembled on the other, would you count that as death of 1 person, and the appearance or another?

If the reassembly is made of the matter from the origin, I'd say the person was temporarily unreadable but, cannot be immediately assumed as brain-dead.
I think a special provision is going to have to be made for matter that gets lost in the process.

The matter disappears from existance. And equivalent matter appears on the other end.

Yep. That is a new person. The old person experienced brain death by modern definition.
Make sure to leave your doppelganger your possessions...

Thought you'd say that. I know someone else who feels the same way.
The majority of our cells didn't experience things we remember to be part of our past too.

[Steelcan]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

thearbiter1337 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The quarians attempted genocide, the geth responded with genocide.

Two wrongs don't make a right

What were they supposed to do?

"Oh you want to kill us? That's cool, go ahead."

Keep in mind they didn't (as far as I know) have any space ships to leave Rannoch either.

The geth also aren't alive, there is that little detail.

[KingZayd]

Steelcan wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The quarians attempted genocide, the geth responded with genocide.

+1

Attempted being the key word.  The geth were too zealous in their retribution.

Failure is no more moral than success.

"Morality" a watchword for those too weak to stomach what must be done.

Then so is overzealous. The only crime that the Geth are guilty of and that the Quarians are not (in this case) is success.

And murder

Nope. Quarians are guilty of that too. Even against Quarians.

[spirosz]

Steelcan wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

thearbiter1337 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The quarians attempted genocide, the geth responded with genocide.

Two wrongs don't make a right

What were they supposed to do?

"Oh you want to kill us? That's cool, go ahead."

Keep in mind they didn't (as far as I know) have any space ships to leave Rannoch either.

The geth also aren't alive, there is that little detail.

They're more alive than some of the people Shepard has met throughout his travels.  

[spirosz]

"Praying" at that Geth Leg figure, during Feros. Legion. Dat ass.

[KingZayd]

thearbiter1337 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The quarians attempted genocide, the geth responded with genocide.

Two wrongs don't make a right

No, but they don't make one  wrong either. To blame the Geth, and forgive the Quarians is silly.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

It boils down to numbers. If I need the war assets I make peace. I don't understand why Tali leaves it up to Shepard to make the call. It's not Shepard's call.

Tali, be a fkn Admiral! Don't ask Shepard's permission. This is your world. Kill Legion on your own! Don't leave it up to Shepard! Do you care about your people or not? (ren interrupt prevents it -- take your chances on a peace dialogue)

This was the most contrived situation in the game, and it makes absolutely no sense at all.

Then you give Shepard the choice of killing Tali and going back to Hackett with nothing. Or accepting Tali's decision.

And before we judge the Quarians let us not forget that our own history is written in blood.

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 05 décembre 2012 - 02:46 .

[Steelcan]

spirosz wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

thearbiter1337 wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The quarians attempted genocide, the geth responded with genocide.

Two wrongs don't make a right

What were they supposed to do?

"Oh you want to kill us? That's cool, go ahead."

Keep in mind they didn't (as far as I know) have any space ships to leave Rannoch either.

The geth also aren't alive, there is that little detail.

They're more alive than some of the people Shepard has met throughout his travels.  

No legion is. And Legion is independant of the geth consensus.