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[egozi14]

hello there
i test dragon age on my old pc and it was working fine and after i buy a new one the game work with alot of "lags".
(i mean not really "lags" but it show it run with 50-60 fps and it still move slowly like its "currentness" not smottly)

when i on maps like "the deep roads" or some citys map and such  the game work with alot of jammeds from 1 secound (and it repeat itself )

my pc hardwares is:

geforce GTX 295

intel core i7 860

Asus P7P55D

4 gb ram Patriot 

windows xp sp3

I have the last drivers for my hardwares  such as the video card
and i have the lest patch od dragon age 1.02

i put dragon age grfix on ultra high on everything and on the X8 on the "anti something..." (forget the name xD)

anyway plz fix it and fast =( through i allready finish the game long a age xD (i just want to know its not my vidoe card driver or something)

[Franpa]

Check your power supply can properly power your video card.

[Schneidend]

You may also want to turn down anti-aliasing. Unless your monitor is bigger than 32 inches, anything above 2x Anti-Aliasing is pretty much a waste of resources for Dragon Age.

[uberman409]

The fact that you're using XP warms my heart. XP is epic.

[Tyrax Lightning]

I've read reviews for Quad-Core CPUs & some refer to 'unlocking' the 3rd & 4th core after installation & OS installation. (& Maybe Drivers Installation.) Have you done this?



I've learned recently that Quad-Core CPUs aren't using all 4 cores by default. I wouldn't be at all suprised if people having trouble with Quad-Core setups were assuming all 4 cores unlocked by default & aren't realizing that they're playing DA:O without all 4 Cores turned on. I'm glad I found such info or I coulda done the same thing by mistake. (After I finally get my new puder built.)



Many thanks to good NewEgg Review Makers!

[Crispy8181]

The GTX295 has enough power to run Dragon Age at 16X AA if desired. The problem is likely with the SLI profile (the 295 is a double-GPU card).



I recommend downloading nHancer (www.nhancer.com) and making sure that its Dragon Age profile has Alternate Frame Rendering set with compatibility flag #22 also set (I believe #25 is also usually set). You can also run with 4-Way Alternate Frame Rendering ("quad SLI") mode which assumes either two GPU's or four GPU's are present.



The GTX295 is no joke of a card and you have to know how to properly harness its power.



You could also skip the SLI setup and just tell nHancer to run DA in Single GPU mode. That's the easiest (non-technical) way to just enjoy DA with decent framerates.

[egozi14]

i have 750w thermatake so its not the suppley



all the rest of my games are running fine and i discover that the 295 gtx have not finel driver yet that can to use it full power

so nvidia sending me beta drivers to try them out



but about the cores unlocking and this progrem that use only 1 gpu or 2



where i can get those? can u tell me more about that or send me a link? till now the 4 cores run everthing smottly without any problem so who knows if they really unlock or not..... help?

[egozi14]

o and Crispy8181 on your case i need better explantion case i not know anything about compatibility flag Alternate Frame Rendering or such

before this card i was use the 8600 gt there is a big diffrent betwen those two and on the lest card (that was only 1 gpu) i not was need to do anything to get all to work fine xD

all what i was need to do was to install the lest driver and all the rest was automat


also i hate to "play" with the bios and i not want to do overclocking and such


o and btw i try this game even when the anti something was off and all on low and nothing not change (well all except of the idea that the game was looking ugly xD) so its not the settings too to those who still concern about that xD

Modifié par egozi14, 05 janvier 2010 - 08:59 .

[egozi14]

all what i do was to install the lest driver and the rest was automatic



also i hate to "play around" with the bios and overclocking



and btw i try the game even when the Anti-Aliasing is off and all on low long ago and there was no change (except of the idea that the game was look more ugly lol xD) to those who still concern about that

[egozi14]

sorry on my double

when i edit the lest reply i saw its not change it so i just say it twice xD

[Crispy8181]

I don't mean to sound rude, but you're the equivalent of a guy that goes out and buys a Ferrari but doesn't know anything about driving a sports car.



You need to learn about SLI technology. Pay a visit to nVidia's SLI Zone forums, other tech sites like Anandtech.com and read as much as you can about the subject. I also highly recommend the site www.tweakguides.com.



Until you get a firm grasp on the terminology used and how to properly configure your hardware, you're always going to be at a disadvantage.



Remember, there's rarely ever an "easy answer" for high-end computer gaming.

[egozi14]

well i actually know about sli technology



who you think choose the parts , companys and build this pc up? xD

(yea i know it not really mean that just by build pc and know parts and such means that i know what SLI is, but dont you think that someone with such knowledge usually know what the things his "Monster" can do ? )



i know that the sli is to connect 2 cards and to used their power as one

(btw it work the best on win7 or so i heard) i maybe really not know all the thiny details through but i guess that know at lest some of it is good then nothing right? xD



btw i do know that usually the lest hardwares such as the i7 and the 925 gtx are usually unstable and that some games not really "get along" with them so i really think about it out before i take them ( i thought i take the 280 on the start xD) you even know that the i7 have a probelm that you need a ram memory from some companys such as Gskill or Patriot to make it work fine? otherwise the cores not detect the ram well and it just end up with blue screen, but no worrys if you going to buy i7 on the futher (or you allready have it and all what i say you allready know xD what end up to wast your time... -.-) know that intel now aware on that problem and fix it .. at lest i hope they are xD



but thanks alot , i will read the information and explanations and see if there something i can do



i not try to be arrogant or something.. i just thought that if you at lest know what i right now know you can tell me if i really know what i need and to help me on the next step but if you right then let me check it out xD and i reply you soon =)

[Mr_Raider]

I run it on a phenom ii 920 and 8800gts and it's fine. have you tried disabling hyperthreading and turbo boost?

[egozi14]

ok i read about the SLI and such
but the thing i really not was so proficient was on the profiles and on progrems like nhancer

i download it and i think i ganaa need your help to trun it to the right Alternate Frame and what not xD
but first i have some qustion
1. is this progrem going to change the grfix and preformces in all my games (included vidoe qualitys) or just the games i choose?

2. my pc have some language that this progrem not have on its stock and i want to know if it do any side effects such as not fection at all on my pc or even worse... blue screen !@!.

3. i think i know the answer for that but i ask it anyway: do this progrem change files on my system? like import files that may end up to make my pc unstable? (i ask it case i have language this progrem not have and if it really change files on my system to files with other lang i be in trouble : O)

4. if i used this progrem its technically mean i do overclock to my card? or change bios at all? (well i pretty sure that its well know answer xD) case i not want to play with the bios+ overclocking beat your card life faster (card that can live for 6 years will die after 1 xD depend on how much you use it)

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and to uberman409 i think xp is empi too XP4EVER ^^ (just hope you fine what i say one day xD case its suck between the lines =)

and to Tyrax Lightning plz tell me how to open all my 4 cores if that even possible xD (on that subject i be more then happy to change my bios =)

Modifié par egozi14, 05 janvier 2010 - 11:51 .

[Chaser01]

Why not upgrade to windows 7 everythings else is topped up?

[egozi14]

i have win 7 on cd and i try it on my sister pc

i can to get used to it but the probelm is that i hav so alot of progrem that i sure win7 detect it "unstablly" case some progrems install some uniqes driver so they can work (and they not really change something on the system for those who thik its relate to the problem of this post case i talk on progrems such as Alcohol 120% or daemon tools through i know that most of those progrems have new version for win7 but not all of them right now )

+ i hate the idea that win7 "delete" somethings that was on xp and vista that alot people use them

it even switch progrems with useless progrems that except of have good look they have bad priformces comperd to the progrems xp or vista used (and i know most of vista progrems was sucks xD ) for exsemple the xp have the "Windows picture and fax viewer" that can run any pic you want (well allmost) with even GIF files that move while you press on the "display" buttuem

but take a look on the poor "Windows live picture gallery" that you have on win7... the poor thing cant even run all the GIF files properly nor to move them automat too and on alot of case you need to use IE8 to run them.... i know that it stupit example but it just so you understand what i mean



and the dam part is that microsoft not even see the replys people send them on their "new better progrems" do you even know how much people send them reply on the new Movie maker? (not that it so good progrem anyway xD but alot of people who dont know how to use edit video progrems was usually stick to it ) so i think i not ganaa support microsoft till they really ganaa care for their user and not only for their money (like on vista case when they still not want to add dx11 to xp or on their games that they start to releses only to the xbox)

i presonaaly hate the idea that i cant change the style of the "start buttem" to the style that the icons will be places there on diffrent way like it was on xp and vista.. its like they force me to stick to one thing that the beast for them

[Crispy8181]

egozi14 wrote...
1. is this progrem going to change the grfix and preformces in all my games (included vidoe qualitys) or just the games i choose?

nHancer actually works in conjunction with nVidia Forceware to automatically select and run the correct game profile as soon as you launch that game.  nHancer's advantage over just relying on Forceware alone is that those profiles can be tweaked and modified as you see fit.  In this instance, to try to troubleshoot performance in a particular game.

2. my pc have some language that this progrem not have on its stock and i want to know if it do any side effects such as not fection at all on my pc or even worse... blue screen !@!.

nHancer may have versions in languages other than English, but I'm not sure about that.  I don't think it'll cause a problem, though.

3. i think i know the answer for that but i ask it anyway: do this progrem change files on my system? like import files that may end up to make my pc unstable? (i ask it case i have language this progrem not have and if it really change files on my system to files with other lang i be in trouble : O)

nHancer doesn't change anything on your computer.  You can safely uninstall it if it doesn't help you or if you don't like it.

4. if i used this progrem its technically mean i do overclock to my card? or change bios at all? (well i pretty sure that its well know answer xD) case i not want to play with the bios+ overclocking beat your card life faster (card that can live for 6 years will die after 1 xD depend on how much you use it)

nHancer will not overclock your video card.  It cannot.  It merely allows you to alter the various driver options for your GeForce card easier than relying on the Forceware Control Panel (which can be confusing and awkward to use) alone.  You can also tell nHancer to manually switch between various games' profiles as opposed to just relying on Forceware to do that automatically every time.  Look for the option in nHancer called "Allow Profile to be Manually Activated" or something similar.  Then you use the icon in the system tray to switch at will.  Get it?

[egozi14]

yup

thank you

i just hope it will work fine with the beta driver i currectly use (that suppose to fix bugs on games like RED ALERT 3 that you see your units on green color texture while play co op online with the 295 gtx xD also its make the new 195. driver more stable and add balance to the Adobe Flash and make it work faster ) the only reason i tell you that was as thanks xD (not like they tell me to keep it as secret or something ) if you want i can send you that driver too case so far for a 2 and half weeks of test i can see its more stable then the lest one.. o yea but it only ganaa work if you have card from the 200 series.



btw.. any chance you know if that thing of "unlocking" the 3rd and 4rd cores are true ?

[egozi14]

umm i test it out

and the problem not fixed =(

the fps show its betweed 50-70 as usuall but the game not really move faster without any little "freez" for 1 sec here and there

also i notices that now movies are move slower for some reason, probebly the progrem profile... o well '-.- maybe its the cores after all

[Crispy8181]

Actually what you're now describing sounds more like an issue where the hard drive is accessing data and your game performance is pausing while it does. Could be a problem with fragmentation or with not having enough free RAM. Try using MSCONFIG to reduce the number of programs loading up automatically in Windows. I don't recommend disabling your antivirus software, though.



Also use the Performance tab of Task Manager (access this with CTRL-ALT-DEL) to monitor your processor's four cores just after you quit the game. If the graph shows activity on all four then you can be assured that Dragon Age is not ignoring the other two.

[Oddball1]

Hmm, I ran this game just fine on my Core i5 750. One thing I did was disabled Enhanced Speed Step which also disabled Turbo Mode. Enhanced Speed Step is why there are problems with this came on the Core i5 and Core i7 cpu's. When Enhanced Speed Step is enable, only one core is active until a game start's, then when a game starts the other core's are supposed to go active. This is where Turbo Mode comes in, when the other cores go active Turbo Mode, then over clocks the active cores to get more speed out of them.



What disabling Enhanced Speed Step which also disables Turbo Mode does, it active's the rest of the cores, and causes them to all run at the same time, and all at the same non overclocked speed, which in my case is 2.66GHZ for each core.



What the op needs to do, is go in to the bios of his motherboard, and disable Enhanced Speed Step, this will then cause all four cores to go full active at all time, and run at each core's stock speed.



I'm using the ASUS P7P55D Deluxe in my Core i5 rig, with 8GB's of ram, two 512MB Radeon 3870's, HT Omega Claro for sound, and a Thermaltake Toughpower 700watt powersupply.



I ran Dragon Age on the highest settings my system could support, without any problems at all.

[Franpa]

Oddball1, you are misinformed. Intel EIST (Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology) allows the Operating System to communicate with the Processor it self and request the highest processor performance state (P0) (triggering the Turbo Boost Technology feature if enabled).

You can control EIST in Windows 7/Vista via the Power Options function in the Control Panel. Setting the Minimum Processor State in the active profile to 100% will result in the processor never going below the default clock frequency. Even if the Minimum Processor State is not set to 100%, when a program demands additional performance then the CPU can provide at the default clock frequency, the CPU will overclock via Turbo Boost Technology if enabled.


The benefit of a Minimum Processor State @ 100% is that it greatly reduces the chances of the processor switching clock frequencies while you perform tasks. Switching clock frequencies during certain tasks can cause stutter as it takes time to complete the switch.

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C1E and C-State Technology however, is a CPU only feature which allows the CPU it self to detect when power is not needed (windows has no control over this) and will shut down unused cores or slow the processor below the default speed to save power and energy.

This is a energy saving feature, not aimed at performance situations.

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TM (Thermal Management) allows the processor to detect when it is exceeding a thermal threshold letting it know when to slow down/shut off to save it self from overheating.


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You can also manually control how many Cores are enabled via the BIOS. This is the reccomended method when wanting to run your processor at the fastest clock frequency via Turbo Boost Technology.

Modifié par Franpa, 06 janvier 2010 - 05:08 .

[Franpa]

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These forums take about 1 minute to show a edited post, anyways refer to the above post of mine.

Modifié par Franpa, 06 janvier 2010 - 04:36 .

[Phonzo]

overall your issue is a bit unique but I'd also like to point out that if you are using xp sp3 and its the 32 bit version you are severely under utilizing the power of your machine.



Your computer is only able to use 4 gigs of memory total due to 32 bit limitations (this is a combined total of video memory and ram).



Thus you may have significantly less ram or video memory available then you think resulting in increased hard drive access and "lag" from that.