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[egozi14]

ok
1. i know what progrems i run and they not take alot cpu at all (i used most of them on all my old pcs before i switch to that one) i also check every time and the cup dragon age take is between 20 to 15 and it allmost nothing
(and if you really want to know the antivirus i used is nod 32 that not take alot from the system cpu like mcafee do and also if it did i know what to change on the options to make it stop use more cup)

2 . i also have 4 ram and i not have problem with memory and i know the xp detect till 3.50 ram and that i cant use all this pc power to its fullest on xp
however i not really care case the pc hardly use 2 ram from the 4 everytime and and to remind you i have only 4 ram, upgret just for more 50 be usuless.

3. also i remeber i mention it more then 3 times here but i not want to play with the bios if i dont know it will work 100% for sure case you both telling me to do two diffrent things , how do you expect me to trust that what you saying are true when you both telling while usuing deffrent hardwares, system, then i use and tell me all the rest by theory that who knows if its full proved on the i7? xD

Modifié par egozi14, 06 janvier 2010 - 01:25 .

[Damric]

I find it funny that you are having problems with such an expensive rig. Go figure I run the game perfectly smooth with a phenom II 550 x2, 4gb ddr2, and an ati hd 4670 1gb at max'd settings with 4x aa/af. Granted I do OC to the max, but my rig is only a few hundred $. I found that using the AMD fusion utility works nice with this game with windows vista 64 bit.

[Oddball1]

egozi14 wrote...

ok
1. i know what progrems i run and they not take alot cpu at all (i used most of them on all my old pcs before i switch to that one) i also check every time and the cup dragon age take is between 20 to 15 and it allmost nothing
(and if you really want to know the antivirus i used is nod 32 that not take alot from the system cpu like mcafee do and also if it did i know what to change on the options to make it stop use more cup)

2 . i also have 4 ram and i not have problem with memory and i know the xp detect till 3.50 ram and that i cant use all this pc power to its fullest on xp
however i not really care case the pc hardly use 2 ram from the 4 everytime and and to remind you i have only 4 ram, upgret just for more 50 be usuless.

3. also i remeber i mention it more then 3 times here but i not want to play with the bios if i dont know it will work 100% for sure case you both telling me to do two diffrent things , how do you expect me to trust that what you saying are true when you both telling while usuing deffrent hardwares, system, then i use and tell me all the rest by theory that who knows if its full proved on the i7? xD

Fine then don't complain anymore that you are having problems. You were told what you are going to have to do, to be able to run the game, without any problems, but you refuse to do it. Shutting off Enhanced Speed Step, which also shuts off Turbo Mode causes all four cores to be active and run at their stock speed. With Enhanced Speed Step, only one core goes active, and the rest may or may not go active, depending on the game or application.

[Franpa]

Oddball1 wrote...

Shutting off Enhanced Speed Step, which also shuts off Turbo Mode causes all four cores to be active and run at their stock speed. With Enhanced Speed Step, only one core goes active, and the rest may or may not go active, depending on the game or application.

re-read what I said before please. EIST does not shut cores down. I am wrong about Turbo Technology though. Turbo Boost doesn't shut cores down, it slows them down to save it self from over heating etc.

EIST allows Windows to request the highest performance requirement of the CPU (P0) causing the CPU to engage the Turbo Boost Technology if enabled. The number of cores available however, is controlled directly in the BIOS, not by the CPU or Windows. You can disable cores in the BIOS so that you can gain additional performance for programs that depend more on high clock frequencies then multi-tasking.


http://www.intel.com...boost/index.htm

edit: updated my rant @ http://social.biowar...546525/1#554643 to take in the new facts I learnt about Turbo boost Technology.

Modifié par Franpa, 06 janvier 2010 - 05:10 .

[egozi14]

to Oddball1

i not say that what you tell me was bad or something xD i just say that its hard to know what to do when two people telling me to do something else and that both saying that its work for them

so anyway thanks that you try to help me out.



to Franpa

i not really know alot on bios so i not really sure where i can find this Turbo mod xD however i think i know what may case the problem, you see when i build the pc i not change the bios i let to someone who understand to do it and after i install the drivers i in mistake install a preformces progrems that i mistake them to drivers, i delete them right after i discover it not was drivers but i think it allready change something on the bios without i notices

so i want to ask you: how can i know if my currect bios are stable for the pc? i mean i know how to see bios (to press DEL when the pc trun on..well depend on the motherbored) but i not sure how i can see if its stable...can you tell me how ?



btw the i7 not suppose to be 4 cores? so why i see you have Core2 i7 920? does it mean u have 8 cores?

[egozi14]

ok... i guess i ask a bit to much -.-..... thanks alot Franpa =(

[Franpa]

bleh, my description of C1E is wrong too, it only lowers clock frequency and core voltage when Windows requests a low or lowest performance state. At the moment Intel's C-State Technology (separate to C1E) is the only thing that can shut a processor core down for energy saving reasons. The only way to operate the CPU in a performance situation with less cores is to disable them manually in the BIOS (there is a separate option for this).





As for your question, I can't answer anything about how to configure your BIOS unless you can take screen shots (use a camera/phone!) of each menu and the values everything is set to.

[Phonzo]

Yes that is the function of C1E.

Keeping both enabled is not an issue if the cpu is at stock voltages (leads to some stability issues on an OC'd cpu at least in my experience).

If you don't think your cpu is "getting up to speed" grab yourself a copy of CPU-Z and you can see the exact multipliers (this is how cpu's throttle themselves in most cases btw - reducing the multipler)

It's actually total addressable memory. Video Card Memory is included. So if you have a system with 2 gbs of video memory and 4 gbs of system memory your total is six. Windows then has to figure out which 4 gigs max to address.

If you are only seeing 3.5 gigabytes available then your only using 512mbs of your videocards memory (which has a total of 2gb). Don't be surprised by strange performance hiccups from this kinda configuration. 

Modifié par Phonzo, 07 janvier 2010 - 03:00 .

[egozi14]

dude even so Dragon age grfix not need more than that to run smootly my guess is that even 2 gb of memory can run it or even 1 ... this grfix is not close to be like crysis or gta you know....

so anyway does it mean that it force me to upgret to win7? *O*

maybe the problem on the bios insted ..... and i still not get it... what to do on the bios for go.d sake? i need to lower or higher the "what" of the "what" ? what happend to the turbo mod you mention back than? does it have anything to do with that too? i think i must to say it again but when its come to bios i dont know nothing ...all this blue screen with nubers do me a headache xD

i only know things about parts and how to connet them right to the pc (and i let to people who understand on those parts such as engenirs to see if i build the pc right so the problem is not how i build it) also i let to someone else who understand on bios to tuning to how they suppose to be so the pc will work well. so anyway plz help me step by step or at lest send a site that can explain me how the bios work (i know at lest that its the orders that the motherbored give to the other parts to work well... or something like that)

[Franpa]

I won't say anything about someones BIOS without first receiving pictures of each setting. It can be dangerous without knowing exactly how everything is configured already.



The game does only use 1.5 to 2 gigabytes of RAM, at least here.

[egozi14]

well i can get a pic i guess but i think i do something better



just tell me how to rest the bios and how to change it again to the normal way it suppose to be



that suppose to work with any motherbored right ?

[egozi14]

ok i try to change dragon age profile on nvidia control to use 1 GPU and it work better and most of the times stey on 75 fps

however on areas like "Denerim market" "ruined temple" and the "breciliah forest" is start to go down to 60-50 fps



help?