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[Tal_Elmar]

wow, Havoc is dead now...

But yeah, so many people play him! He was so OP!

seriously, BW, you should read the definition of a word 'balance' in the dictionary

[The Mysterious Stranger]

This was the best balance changes on a long time.

Tal_Elmar wrote...

wow, Havoc is dead now...

But yeah, so many people play him! He was so OP!

seriously, BW, you should read the definition of a word 'balance' in the dictionary

Can't say that stim pack nerf was that heavy. They buffed havoc strike too, but it would have been nice with the some force increase to, so you don't need to spec all in power to get aoe with power to stager everything.

Modifié par The Mysterious Stranger, 05 décembre 2012 - 07:29 .

[ozthegweat]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

ozthegweat wrote...

Don't understand why they didn't simply half the damage of the Acolyte and doubled the damage bonus against shields and barriers.

We are not able to do that with live updates.

Ah, I see, thanks for your answer... so would that have been your preferred way of adjusting it, had it been possible, instead of a uniform damage decrease across all types of health?

[HLake]

This was a lot less painfull than I feared...
Also, Saber buff, yeah!

[Poison_Berrie]

cramycram wrote...

You must work for Bioware. Way to completely and totally ignore my entire post of VALID issues this game has and instead notion the fact that I am "embellishing."

I don't work for Bioware and I did not ignore your post with some valid issues. I answered why your solution of not doing balance changes would not in anyway, shape or form make bug fixes go faster.
It's perfectly valid to want more patches, they are terrible slow with them. But we aren't going to hear anything about that beyound that such things take time. It's been asked before and all you are doing is bringing old isseus back up.

MP-Ryan wrote...

Someone explain to me on what planet a 10% damage nerf is "small." If they did that to the Claymore, every Acolyte-hater on these forums would cry from now until Christmas.

Oh, right. Claymore isn't a caster weapon so it will never see any sort of nerf.

 
Because the gun can still function the way it's supposed to. It's still supereffective against shields and barriers, without mods or equipment and still staggers. The main functionality of the weapon survives.

I think the Claymore could take a 10% hit, but really it's only functionality is burst damage so that 10% hits the Claymore harder than it does the Acolyte.

[Hausner85]

Acolyte nerf if i'm making correct calculation's will not strip phantom of shields completely on on Human adept (level X + barrel -ammo- rail) that a big Nerf we will see if not too big

Nerf to stimpack??? Yep no more 6/6/6/6/0 builds... I like that

Saber? Loved before no it's even better....

Valkyrie? Wrong direction.. I think they should make it lighter so it would have different role then harrier...

[Jamesui]

I understand the necessity of the stimpack nerf, but the Havoc was crippled by it far more than the ghost was even annoyed. The discrepancy is worse even than the effects the Hunter Mode nerf had on the GE and GI. The havoc strike buff is nice, but as a hollowed-out biotic charge, it doesn't do much for survivability without abusing some bug people have muttered about. Heck, I'd specced out of it to play him more like a support gunner and tank.

I do hope he gets something in exchange from a future update - he wasn't exactly overused to begin with.

The acolyte nerf was milder than expected. I was hoping for the return of the charge-up mechanic, though.I would have settled for a weight nerf. That would have done more to abate its ubiquity than a small damage nerf and would have made the choice between ULM and the mag upgrade actually difficult.

I love the Saber, so I appreciate the buff, but I think it already did enough in the damage department. If increased headshot modifiers apply to some extent against bosses, that route would have been more interesting.

The Marksman feels like a poor man's TuSo. I don't think a dodge and TacScan is worth losing the extra passive damage, a CC stagger, a boatload of shields and health, and stability bonuses. As it's confirmed he's bugged at least fitness-wise, I get the feeling he'll be getting some love eventually. I'll reserve further play and judgement until then.

Don't have the Valkyrie. Can't comment on its buff.

Ghost and Giant! Yeeeesssss.

Modifié par Jamesui, 05 décembre 2012 - 08:45 .

[DamonD7]

I never got to play as one of the new Turians before the nerf...sad face.

Always nice to see Hazard Ghost, tho.

[bigfutus]

Nerfing Acolyte meh, buffing Sabre yay!

[DestroyerN7]

nice to see that black cards are being increased, i wish you could buff wraith's magazine or reload speed.

[Nero Narmeril]

So much drama. Lol. Actually I don't feel Havoc's nerf...

[Xero M XTC]

DesioPL wrote...

Worst balance ever.

Thank you for nerfing stim packs for Turian Ghost. Now i never complete solo mastery.

(Go play bronze solo)

Use a Kroguard is you want to tank your way through Gold solo

Hausner85 wrote...

Acolyte nerf if i'm making correct
calculation's will not strip phantom of shields completely on on Human
adept (level X + barrel -ammo- rail) that a big Nerf we will see if not
too big

Nerf to stimpack??? Yep no more 6/6/6/6/0 builds... I like that

Saber? Loved before no it's even better....

Valkyrie? Wrong direction.. I think they should make it lighter so it would have different role then harrier...

a lvl 1 Ghost with 1 point in TC and 1 point in SP is very viable on
Gold/Collectors (no consumable equipment) nevermind a 6/6/6/6/0 build.



Also...





LOL at the Acolyte overreaction... THE GUN IS RUINED, THERE'S NO POINT TO IT ANYMORE !!!! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.

Still the best gun at stripping shields/barriers... except on bosses maybe, Reegar is faster ??

Modifié par Xero M XTC, 05 décembre 2012 - 10:21 .

[Eelectrica]

Acolyte is fine. I use ulm and heavy barrel on it anyway. still destroys phantoms and strips shields off bosses very efficiently as it's supposed to.

[Fugiz]

Poor Havoc Soldier mmmwah may he rest in peace.

Modifié par Fugiz, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:04 .

[Nero Narmeril]

Poor Havoc Soldier mmmwah may he rest in peace.

I just had match with Havoc. Still kicked asses.

[P51Mus7ang]

I took the Havoc for two quick silver runs last night as I haven't played this kit in a long time, I think the stim pack change was too harsh for him, it's fine with the Ghost which I also tried.

Havoc strike to me is a fun ability but on gold it still doesn't have the kick that a charge has, I believe it should at least be close.

I also noticed something odd, it was a silver solo on Ghost, a Nemisis was on a ramp untouched so I decided to see just how much damage it would do, did a strike and heavy melee, two bars went down.....I tried it when a Nemisis was on a flat surface and the results were far better, can't recall the actual count.

Anyhow it's just something to be aware of, tried it several times after when the enemy was on a ramp and the damage was far less than a flat surface, not sure if that is design or bug.

[kelly ripas bicep]

nerfing the acolyte is a **** move.

[Hausner85]

Xero M XTC wrote...



LOL at the Acolyte overreaction... THE GUN IS RUINED, THERE'S NO POINT TO IT ANYMORE !!!! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.

Still the best gun at stripping shields/barriers... except on bosses maybe, Reegar is faster ??

I would't said its ruined I think they just maybe hit the soft spot, On lev I it will be good but not godly on X and with amp (or maybe without) just like before it's a good compromise..Still going to use it ot human adept but maybe will habve to swich from smg rail to pistol... Hard choices a good thing:)

[SlayerGP]

The buff to Havoc Strike doesn't seem proportional to the nerf to Stim Pack. It seems like the Havoc may actually be worse now.

[YapperFlapper]

RGZ Archer wrote...

I still dont get why so many people think the TGI or Havoc are broken or OP. Since they have come out, the only character I find myself reviving more often than these two are the blasted Volus. Nothing against the characters (any of them) but when you find yourself reviving every TGI you find in a PUG two to three times a wave, but only reviving Drell Adepts once r twice a GAME, that tells me something.

That and I've never been able to get Stim Packs to work, period. Like the OPs packs all that happens is I glow/shimmer for a second then I drop dead when I get hit by anything, even when my shields are already full.

No I dont mean sync kills, I mean getting one shotted by Geth Primes on Gold or Phantom's Phase Disrupter on Silver. Perhaps like the Kishock or Falcon these characters are only usable by the host?

As for the meger buff for the Valkyrie, thats 5% per shot, and each shot is three rounds, so thats actually a 15% buff per trigger pull. Stack this with Marksmen which increases rate of fire on say a Turian Soldier and you actually have a half decent weapon. I call it my poor mans Harrier, since after one thousand games (most of which were on gold) and close to four houndred hours, I STILL only have the Harrier at level 2. My odds with leveling up the Valkyrie are VASTLY higher than ever getting another Harrier.

Saber buff is very welcome, despite only having it at level 3 its one of my favorite weapons on my Turian Soldier and perhaps for the Quarian Marksman, the increase ROF makes it a very useful weapon. Its no Harrier X, but at least I have it.

Valkyrie is only a two-round burst.  Your damage per pull of the trigger does not go up by 15%, even if it was three round burst.  Example:  base 100 damage x 2 shot burst = 200 total damage.  Increase damage per shot to 105, damage per bust is now 210...still a 5% increase.  I've got 530 hours, and I only have a Harrier at 1, so I feel your pain there.

If you're reviving TGI more than Volus, that tells me the people you are playing with are not very efficient at playing TGI's. 

I agree with you on stim packs, at least off-host.  To me, it feels like they are affected by lag just like the ops packs.  I've never had a problem with either of those as host or in solo games.  

[niripas]

Played my Havoc melee build. It's viable on maps like Rio now - just run around the boxes picking up nades. Phantom still can be killed with stim -> strike -> stim -> heavy melee, but having 1600 shields less means it has to be a lone phantom. Incendiary havoc strike is just enough to stagger phantom for a melee kill, but you have to have both power passives. As it's no longer viable to solo two phantoms I think I'll respec to single target Havoc strike. Acolyte nerf - yes you can feel it.

[zgodo]

Where is Chakram Launcher? When it will be added to MP arsenal?

[TrveOmegaSlayer]

I still wonder what the guys planning the multiplayer stuff think when you come up with the abilities.
And how they nerf them not thinking that they can mend a class but broke another one.
They maybe fixed the Turian Ghost but broke the Turian Havoc.

And still collector are bugged as hell and Pretorians have still butt lazers.

One thing.
Fix the bugs then nerf the stuff.
Because "challenging" is a concept with a very different meaning than "cheap"

[ShinTheZero]

Valkyrie Buff: Pitiful. +5 damage? Really? Are you serious?

Saber Buff: It was pretty good enough, but the damage buff is a bit nice.

Acolyte Nerf: Much less than I expected.

Havoc Strike Buff: +100 Damage is irrelevant, the cooldown decrease is nice, but could have been 6s instead of 8s. Why? Havoc is living from CQC Explosions, so give him a faster detonator.

Stimpack Nerf: It's okay, but instead of -5% on the base, I would have changed the Weapon Damage to 5%, giving the Havoc at least some love in terms of this nerf.