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#101
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Relix28 wrote...

holdenagincourt wrote...

I bet he means they can't change base Fitness values through weekly changes. Evolutions can be modified though.

Maybe the evolution bonuses could be increased to be relatively on par with the other QMs if you at least go to 4b.


That could be a solution. Unless he shares his fitness tree with the other two QM's.


and it's not a 'complete' fix anyway since no/not full fitness builds would still suffer
though as sabotage stands, not many people would spec it

Modifié par cgj, 04 décembre 2012 - 11:58 .


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Greyfrogx wrote...

Creative ways to compensate sounds amazing......
Am I the only one picturing the asari huntress running around wearing a donnie darko rabbit suit right now?


I'd be happy with a jacketless version of Aria's outfit, or that Asari soldier uniform you see ALL OVER THE CITIDEL, you know the black one with red lights on the back and shoulders, looks like a cross between the Justicar and N7 Destroyer?

I wish I could find a picture of them, but two that stick out are at the Afterlife (near Aria's abode) and the one you give the Reaper Code fragment to.

If someone coud provide a picture or link to one of this I would be thankful.

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RPC_RPC wrote...

Well, just tried him on Gold and I think HSol/Tsol is better. He lacks close combat staggering capabilities (CS, overload, etc..).


I said that and everyone loled in my face "Hurr Durr I'll just take a Scorpion/Acolyte." Well did everyone remember to pack their Scorpion/Acolyte?

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

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I'm confused, haven't the Turian's, Krogran's, and Batarian's, health/shields been increased through balance tweaks?


Because he has the Human fitness most likely. Not a new custom race fitness. This can't be change without a patch. Lack of Beta testing shows. One of many reasons I don't take the Devs seriously, nor think they have any right to Nerf any bloody thing. 


Actually he does have a custom Fitness so we are able to modify his Fitness specifically.


But not through weekly balance changes, like you did with Turians, Krogan and Batarians?


Yes we can adjust the bonuses from his Fitness power through live updates.


That's good news Eric thanks for posting (for real)

Modifié par sandboxgod, 04 décembre 2012 - 11:59 .


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You could always give the Quarians resistance to environmental effects (like reduce the time you can't you powers when a Plague hits you by 30%, take 20% less damage from Ravager acid pools stuff like that). They do have enviro-suits on after all.

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FatalionPanic wrote...

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Yeah, it's pretty odd. Wouldn't soldiers be the tankier classes, traditionally speaking?


Quarian Soldiers? Tankier? Naw.
Did you play the game beyond MP? :wizard:

Hah~ ^

Er, anyways, Soldiers aren't exactly 'tanks'. (That's what Sentinels are.) Just going by the single player portrayal of Shep as a Soldier, they aren't so much 'tank' as much as 'specialized gun user'. 'Stabbing a guess here based on what they described his powers as, I dunno. I picked Infiltrator.) Their abilities support more offense than defense. Looking at Turian and Destroyer in MP, even their skills are more offense less defense. The Marksman sounds like he follows the same kind of idea: Better powpow ratings, less owow ratings.

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MastahDisastah wrote...

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X-Frame wrote...

I'm confused, haven't the Turian's, Krogran's, and Batarian's, health/shields been increased through balance tweaks?


Because he has the Human fitness most likely. Not a new custom race fitness. This can't be change without a patch. Lack of Beta testing shows. One of many reasons I don't take the Devs seriously, nor think they have any right to Nerf any bloody thing. 


Actually he does have a custom Fitness so we are able to modify his Fitness specifically.


Oh, good news, thanks.
Just a quick question: are you able to modify the passive weapon damage for the huntress? or is she tied to the standard asari tree?
Thanks in advance.


She has her own version of the power, so yes we could target her specifically.

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Yes, an unfortunate oversight :blush:

We are discussing some form of compensation for him since we can't change health/shields through live updates.


Eric Fagnan wrote...

Yes we can adjust the bonuses from his Fitness power through live updates.


My dearest Fagnan,

I am now confused by what you are saying.

Sincerely,
Broganisity, king of the Tuchankan Shoe Trade.

EDIT: aaaand it got clarified without me noticing. :ph34r:

Modifié par Broganisity, 05 décembre 2012 - 12:01 .


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Julian Skies wrote...

To the people asking if they can 'fix' this-
You need to pay attention to the fix you want. His BASE Shields and Health cannot be adjusted short of a patch.

However, the % bonuses given from the Fitness tree can be adjusted.

So in effect, the weekly balance change fixes they do will all work on the base 500 Shields he has right now.


This is correct.

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

Dorje Sylas wrote...

X-Frame wrote...

I'm confused, haven't the Turian's, Krogran's, and Batarian's, health/shields been increased through balance tweaks?


Because he has the Human fitness most likely. Not a new custom race fitness. This can't be change without a patch. Lack of Beta testing shows. One of many reasons I don't take the Devs seriously, nor think they have any right to Nerf any bloody thing. 


Actually he does have a custom Fitness so we are able to modify his Fitness specifically.


But not through weekly balance changes, like you did with Turians, Krogan and Batarians?


Yes we can adjust the bonuses from his Fitness power through live updates.


All in all its decent character I love the marksman tac scan combo :D I think the tac scan is glitched though.... although I may be wrong i rarely use that power since I normaly use the Geth Trooper.:devil:

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

MastahDisastah wrote...

Oh, good news, thanks.
Just a quick question: are you able to modify the passive weapon damage for the huntress? or is she tied to the standard asari tree?
Thanks in advance.


She has her own version of the power, so yes we could target her specifically.


It's really good to hear that, thanks :wizard:

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ArchFox-GX wrote...

FatalionPanic wrote...

Jack Crapper wrote...

Yeah, it's pretty odd. Wouldn't soldiers be the tankier classes, traditionally speaking?


Quarian Soldiers? Tankier? Naw.
Did you play the game beyond MP? :wizard:

Hah~ ^

Er, anyways, Soldiers aren't exactly 'tanks'. (That's what Sentinels are.) Just going by the single player portrayal of Shep as a Soldier, they aren't so much 'tank' as much as 'specialized gun user'. 'Stabbing a guess here based on what they described his powers as, I dunno. I picked Infiltrator.) Their abilities support more offense than defense. Looking at Turian and Destroyer in MP, even their skills are more offense less defense. The Marksman sounds like he follows the same kind of idea: Better powpow ratings, less owow ratings.


Pretty close, Soldier's specialize in dealing damage, you know, killing things. Sentinels are the defenders.

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

Dorje Sylas wrote...

X-Frame wrote...

I'm confused, haven't the Turian's, Krogran's, and Batarian's, health/shields been increased through balance tweaks?


Because he has the Human fitness most likely. Not a new custom race fitness. This can't be change without a patch. Lack of Beta testing shows. One of many reasons I don't take the Devs seriously, nor think they have any right to Nerf any bloody thing. 


Actually he does have a custom Fitness so we are able to modify his Fitness specifically.


But not through weekly balance changes, like you did with Turians, Krogan and Batarians?


Yes we can adjust the bonuses from his Fitness power through live updates.


Is his fitness tree shared with the other two Quarian Males?

#114
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Eric... kudos for being the tip of the spear getting hammered away at, and yet responding politely.

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Julian Skies wrote...

To the people asking if they can 'fix' this-
You need to pay attention to the fix you want. His BASE Shields and Health cannot be adjusted short of a patch.

However, the % bonuses given from the Fitness tree can be adjusted.

So in effect, the weekly balance change fixes they do will all work on the base 500 Shields he has right now.


This is correct.


Sounds good too me 

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The change to fitness tree is a good start. Changes to CDs on powers would be fair compensation ;)

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#117
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CitizenThom wrote...

Eric... kudos for being the tip of the spear getting hammered away at, and yet responding politely.


90% of us have been rather civilized so far
in fact there are more people  thankfull for the response and not angry at all than people raging

#118
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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

Eric Fagnan wrote...

Actually he does have a custom Fitness so we are able to modify his Fitness specifically.


But not through weekly balance changes, like you did with Turians, Krogan and Batarians?


Yes we can adjust the bonuses from his Fitness power through live updates.


This is great news to know. Thanks, Eric. So basically the only players who will suffer from this oversight are those that go with fitnessless builds, which probably aren't many.

#119
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Shouldn't be too hard to fix.

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Actually he does have a custom Fitness so we are able to modify his Fitness specifically.


I think it's clear, isn't it?
The huntress is the character that will require more "artistical fixing", I think.

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Although it weakens fitnessless builds it also cheapens any gear that boosts shields, a minor point but an additional weakness.

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pawatt6 wrote...

Although it weakens fitnessless builds it also cheapens any gear that boosts shields, a minor point but an additional weakness.


Didn't think of that either. Good point. Hopefully they boost his fitness tree enough to compensate for that.

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MastahDisastah wrote...

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Eric Fagnan wrote...

Actually he does have a custom Fitness so we are able to modify his Fitness specifically.


I think it's clear, isn't it?
The huntress is the character that will require more "artistical fixing", I think.


Seems I missed that one. >.<

Thnx for posting that. :)

#124
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We're thinking about more of an offensive buff to compensate for his lack of shields.

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Last evolution of tactical scan should provide 25% debuff, or 10% debuff with 20m scan range.