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[Kohaku]

TSamee wrote...

Regarding the whole Zev thing, my Warden is a guy, and I don't particularly want to be in a relationship with him as I'm afraid I'll freak out (which I will) and lose a really awesome friend. Question, can you turn down his advances, while still being good friends? Besides Morrigan, he was my second-fave party member in terms of personality (tied with Alistair, though. Don't flame me, please, he injects some much-needed humour into the game, and I really liked that).

I did and we still stayed friends. I felt so bad breaking his heart though.

[Layn]

well, i hope they don't mess up the various character endings. almost everyone from the original group should be gone, except Zevran who stays as some kind of bodyguard and friend, the mabari, and Alistair as King and husband (i think i'm not forgetting anyone)

with this expansion ... what of soldier's peak then?
soldier's peak aka wardens keep, was advertised as the new (and old) grey warden base of operations.
now with the new expansion it says that Vigil's Keep will be the base of operations.

i realize that it'd be pretty inconvenient building up the Grey Warden base in the expansion at soldier's peak (which is an optional DLC), but this is just removing even more of a point from the wardens keep DLC.
It would be nice if the expansion at least mentions it, or even adds more things to wardens keep if you have the DLC

Modifié par Crrash, 05 janvier 2010 - 04:33 .

[Fishy]

TSamee wrote...

Hmmm (again), you may be right, but Morrigan's been engineered (to an extent) for the player to reach out to her, and become attached. I'm not saying I'd feel cheated for romance's sake if the Warden never sees her again, but that the circumstances of her leaving (the Old God inside the child), and that we know very little about her in terms of fact (she could simply be unsure about emotions like love, she may have been manipulating the Warden, she may have actually loved the Warden, she might have been working for Flemeth... the possibilities and combinations are endless with what we know of her right now) make me want to see her again, purely because her child could be immensely powerful, or a beacon to Darkspawn, or something completely different. I'm wondering if her time with the Warden will change how she brings the kid up, and whether she deviates from the original plan (as I'm sure there was a larger plan involved behind the Ritual).

And yes, obviously there is the personal element too, because BioWare have masterfully created an NPC which players can become really attached too emotionally. It's hard not to want to see her again after you start thinking you may have changed her.

But, just clarifying the point of this post, the fact that the soul of an Old God (God. It's not merely a powerful spirit, it's an elder GOD) is inside her child means that she's guaranteed to either pose a threat to the Grey Wardens, or perhaps an opportunity (he/she could be a darkspawn-killing machine). And we don't even know what the purpose of the kid is. For all we know, Morrigan might take its body like Flemeth was planning to do to her, and gain its power.

The situation is just far, far too interesting to leave alone now. True, I'd like to try and rebuild my Warden's relationship with Morrigan, but that's far from everything an encounter has to offer.

Regarding the whole Zev thing, my Warden is a guy, and I don't particularly want to be in a relationship with him as I'm afraid I'll freak out (which I will) and lose a really awesome friend. Question, can you turn down his advances, while still being good friends? Besides Morrigan, he was my second-fave party member in terms of personality (tied with Alistair, though. Don't flame me, please, he injects some much-needed humour into the game, and I really liked that).

Yes .. In my playthrough Right i am *friend* with Zevran.You can absulotly befriend Zevran

[Kohaku]

Crrash wrote...

well, i hope they don't mess up the various character endings. almost everyone from the original group should be gone, except Zevran who stays as some kind of bodyguard and friend, the mabari, and Alistair as King and husband (i think i'm not forgetting anyone)

with this expansion ... what of soldier's peak then?
soldier's peak aka wardens keep, was advertised as the new (and old) grey warden base of operations.
now with the new expansion it says that Vigil's Keep will be the base of operations.

i realize that it'd be pretty inconvenient building up the Grey Warden base in the expansion at soldier's peak (which is an optional DLC), but this is just removing even more of a point from the wardens keep DLC.
It would be nice if the expansion at least mentions it, or even adds more things to wardens keep if you have the DLC

I hate to say it but I'd love it if all the companions but the dog were gone. To me it seems their stories have been finished. Excpet for Morrigan. So I say the Dog and Morrigan should stay around, but the rest can take a graceful stage left exit.

[AndreaDraco]

That depends. If I can import my character, my character - in the epilogue - is with his beloved Zevran. Why Zevran shouldn't be there? This is also true for every other character our Warden(s) has chose to keep at his/her side.

[Kohaku]

AndreaDraco wrote...

That depends. If I can import my character, my character - in the epilogue - is with his beloved Zevran. Why Zevran shouldn't be there? This is also true for every other character our Warden(s) has chose to keep at his/her side.

I wouldn't deny anyone their loves! Seriously. I didn't mean it to sound like that.

For me, however, it wouldn't matter much if they were there or not.

Modifié par Kerridan Kaiba, 05 janvier 2010 - 04:48 .

[Layn]

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

I hate to say it but I'd love it if all the companions but the dog were gone. To me it seems their stories have been finished. Excpet for Morrigan. So I say the Dog and Morrigan should stay around, but the rest can take a graceful stage left exit.

i expect the dog to stay, shouldn't be complicated. But Morrigan is gone and it just seems so unlikely that she would have any reason to return so soon.
Zevran, Leliana and Alistair are however love interest who wont go (AFAIK), and at least in my game Zevran said he'd stick around with my Warden. Alistair as a king shouldn't be a party member, but what for the times when he isn't? It would make sense for a non-King Alistair to rebuild the Grey Wardens together with the Warden.
I don't know about a Leliana romance ending, but i guess she'd probably continue travelling with the warden

Modifié par Crrash, 05 janvier 2010 - 04:48 .

[Kohaku]

Crrash wrote...

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

I hate to say it but I'd love it if all the companions but the dog were gone. To me it seems their stories have been finished. Excpet for Morrigan. So I say the Dog and Morrigan should stay around, but the rest can take a graceful stage left exit.

i expect the dog to stay, shouldn't be complicated. But Morrigan is gone and it just seems so unlikely that she would have any reason to return so soon.
Zevran, Leliana and Alistair are however love interest who wont go (AFAIK), and at least in my game Zevran said he'd stick around with my Warden. Alistair as a king shouldn't be a party member, but what for the times when he isn't? It would make sense for a non-King Alistair to rebuild the Grey Wardens together with the Warden.
I don't know about a Leliana romance ending, but i guess she'd probably continue travelling with the warden

My current save is going to be Alistair stays with the Gray Wardens. It would make sense then that he would stay.  The others I'm just not sure about.

[Fanghorne]

As popular as Alistair and some of the other characters in the game are, it is unlikley that Bioware would not allow you to continue adventuring with them. Especially considering in some cases you might have chosen an ending in which the PC had a love relationship with Alistair and ran off to rebuild the wardens.

[ChaoticBroth]

I'm thinking BioWare is just going to let you "load" a completed game to the new campaign, allowing whatever ending consequences you had to be transferred to the new game of the expansion. 'Cause, you know, the whole questioning thing we had in KOTOR 2 would take waaay too long with DA.



And I'm hoping for Sandal as a party member.

[TheMadCat]

Yeah I don't see Morrigan being the party member. If the epilogues hold any water it just doesn't make any sense. She'd have to be the one seeking you out and given everything she did and said I don't see it happening. Most likely choices still seem like Oghren, Leliana, and maybe Zev. Alistair is king it seems, (Damn you canon), so no reason he'd be rebuilding the Warden's. Sten went back to Qunari land, everyone else has fallen off the face of the earth. Oghren would be the safe and easy route, perhaps you'd have a choice to bring back either Lel or Zev in case you romanced one of the two. Hopefully they don't go the real easy route and bring back dog, the charm wore off towards the end there.

[Seraph798]

LynxAQ wrote...

Well at least we see Bioware have copped out and given us a Canon ending. Wr all now know that unless you choose to take control of the grey wardens and become the grey warden commander - YOU ARE PLAYING WRONG!!!

BioWare’s next thread in
the Dragon Age: Origins tapestry, occurs following the
events of Dragon Age: Origins and puts players into the role of a
Grey Warden Commander entrusted with rebuilding the order of Grey
Wardens. In addition to rebuilding the ranks of the Grey Wardens, you
will be tasked with uncovering the mystery of how the darkspawn survive
after the slaying of the Archdemon.

I wonder what the rest of the canon ending is.

If you read before that, you see that you can make a new character, which would continue the sacrifice yourself ending, whereas the continue your character choice follows the ritual ending. They haven't made an official canon ending, they've made an expansion that can continue any of the endings.

Modifié par Seraph798, 05 janvier 2010 - 05:59 .

[Joshd21]

I have not read all the replys to the thread. However since my post, a few hours after Bioware had updated their website with the expansion and some more details inside. This is a quote taken from the bioware Page

New Ways to Customize your Hero: Experience additional spells,
abilities, specializations, and items to further personalize and
customize your hero and party

• Import your character from Dragon Age: Origins or start anew as a Grey Warden from the neighboring land of Orlais
• Encounter five all-new party members and" an old favorite from Dragon Age: Origins"

Here who I believe is the "Old Favorite".....Morrgian, now before the Anti Morrgian haters jump down my throat. Allow me to explain, it's true I am a bit biased because I fancy Morrgian. However let's consider the other choices, show you why I dismissed them.

Allister- I do not see him coming back. For one, there is an ending where you can have him killed rather then risk cival war at the land's meet. While it's true, Bioware could have some plot where he escaped, I think his fate was settled then. The fact that you had Options to King him and not King him show's you can direct his fate, and his life.

Let's not forget about if Allister take's the final killing blow without Morrgian doing the ritual with you. Then he dies. That is at least two ways he dies. Aside from Morrgian, he's only one that been with you that long in your trip, since start of the game.

Sten- I don't think Sten is very popular. Not saying he's not famously hated. Just don't see that much hype up for him. However the fact you can leave him in his cage to die, another way he can't come back from the dead.


I could go on and on, there are that guy who tries to kill you in the woods. However you can slit his throat. Think about it for a moment.

There is only ONE companion, who does not die directly in your party. Only One compainon that was voted most Popular on the Bioware website polls I remember and Allister was a low second. Her story Morrgian is not yet finished, even if you did not do the ritual

She leaves your party, she doesn't die. She just leaves. If you do the ritual, then she leaves right after the battle. And so far there is only one Party member has a thread 22 pages long for a DLC of her. I see no other DLC requests for other companions. She's only Party member who's story isn't finished, talking with each of them most if not all the favored ones, storys come to a halt.

It's simply smart business, giving the paying customers what they want and I am over joyed. While I could be wrong, if you consider how all other party members fates, can be killed in battle..Shale..if you try to destroy the Anvil...Lenlia..and Wynn if you destroy the ashes

With Dragon Blood,..while other ones don't die directly. They are clearly not a favourite.

[Kohaku]

I agree. I remember reading where they said Morrigan was the face of the game. She represented what the world was all about. I fail to believe she won't be back.

[dooie vogel]

Oeh I hope I will meet Sten on the battlefield again. I am just a sucker for the strong and sillent type.



Because he is so freaking awesome.

[Vaern Sul]

Pardon me if I speculate too much, but doesn't the warm-looking buddy behind The "Awakening" logo look like a Tevinter Archon, or, at least, a Magister ?

[Davidheat1088]

Now is the an all new game or just a Big add-on for Dragon Age? i need to know, if u have the info plz share Thank you

[Herr Uhl]

Davidheat1088 wrote...

Now is the an all new game or just a Big add-on for Dragon Age? i need to know, if u have the info plz share Thank you

Expansion.

[Davidheat1088]

that dos not tell me much, I have played games that have played games that have game story go on in more games like .hack witch is like a 4 disc game , then there is the Sims that have ever thing in just 1 game,

[Layn]

Joshd21 wrote...
Here who I believe is the "Old Favorite".....Morrgian, now before the Anti Morrgian haters jump down my throat. Allow me to explain, it's true I am a bit biased because I fancy Morrgian. However let's consider the other choices, show you why I dismissed them.

while morrigan is important and the face of the game and all and i do really like her, her epilogue is the most consistent one: she went over the frostback mountains and possibly into orlais. it's so unlikely that she would come back already. kinda would ruin the point about her insisting that she must go and even tearing up if you ended up as friends or lovers.
oh also Dog is completely consistent. that'll probably be the companion. who knows

Joshd21 wrote...
Allister- I do not see him coming back. For one, there is an ending where you can have him killed rather then risk cival war at the land's meet. While it's true, Bioware could have some plot where he escaped, I think his fate was settled then. The fact that you had Options to King him and not King him show's you can direct his fate, and his life.

i agree. he's either busy doing kingly things or working on grey warden things. maybe hes even off to weisshaupt. or drunk somewhere. or dead.

Joshd21 wrote...
Sten- I don't think Sten is very popular. Not saying he's not famously hated. Just don't see that much hype up for him. However the fact you can leave him in his cage to die, another way he can't come back from the dead.

Sten is awesome. but Sten is busy going back to the Qunari and planning an attack against Ferelden or whomever.

Joshd21 wrote...
I could go on and on, there are that guy who tries to kill you in the woods. However you can slit his throat. Think about it for a moment.

yeah, you are right, its probably none of the optional companions, but i'd really like Zevran to appear since it was basically decided at my ending at least that we'd team up and fight some more evil.

my bet is on the mabari

[TheMadCat]

@Josh: The problem with that idea is it talks about a party member and going off of how things went no matter what ending you selected, I don't see how they can bring her back as a companion at this point in time considering her current situation. I'm sure we'll see Morrigan again, but I don't think it would be here and I'm almost certain not as a returning companion.



But you do bring up a good point about companions fates, chase away from certain actions, killed, ect. However there is one other like that, Oghren. No single action will make him leave you aside from kicking him out or very, very low approval. He was also left in a prime situation for a return in all of his epilouges. I wouldn't read to much into that popular thing, obviously they'd use that phrase rather then say, the #5 most popular party member, or the companion you kind of liked.

[Joshd21]

I had posted the information about the expansion about four hours before I believe Bioware had published and confirmed it on their website. However the information to regard the expansion, can now be found on their front website right here

http://dragonage.bioware.com/awakening

It gives you two options to break it down. You can either start as a whole new person, I assume with a different . In the city of

Import your character from Dragon Age: Origins or start anew as a Grey Warden from the neighboring land of Orlais

Have never seeing the Orlais, I would be willng to play that one. Only after I imported my old character and finished his story. I had some time building him up and I feel a bit attached. Already his ablitys are devloped and I am used to him. I am eager to see if my choices from my earlier experience have an impact.


For example, Anvil of Void. Perhaps if you sided with the woman in saving it. Then she goes mad with power and starts to create her own army which is a threat to the city itself.

While I don't know what, if any choices could influnce this expansion. I am very excited and eager to see this through. Since it was published to come out in March, I think Bioware either started working on this since Dragon Age Orgins lanch or after.

Or else how would they know who is the favorite. Either way certaintly this is something to toast, after DLC and DLC gives us one hour or three to play. We apperciate that, but we find ourself's ...hungering for more. This expansion is coming out sooner then I expected two years early.

Yay

[AndreaDraco]

After sneak-peaking the trailer, I guess the old favorite will be Alistair, but the trailer also seemed to show Oghren (red-headed dwarf, with similar hair-cut).

[Davidheat1088]

So this is going to be a separate game from Dragon age?