Feneckus wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
It's like trying to argue that the Human Soldier is OP because he can drop 2 mooks in a second with Claymore --> AR --> Claymore, WITH a 70% damage boost on the second shot.
That drops Atlases just as fast as any GI.
Please, show me a Human Soldier who can do this :
I'm waiting
RoundedPlanet88 wrote...
Air Quotes wrote...
Don't blame Infiltrators. Blame the crappy all knowing enemies who mostly don't give a **** about cloaks utility. Cloak shouldn't give any damage or a very minor one. It should be pure utility. But psychic enemies, smallish maps require DPS and DPS only.
You better duck dude, @%$#storm incoming
Annomander wrote...
Show me a krogan that can do that too.
The only tactical cloak in game that is balanced right now is the volus cloak.
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Annomander wrote...
Feneckus wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
It's like trying to argue that the Human Soldier is OP because he can drop 2 mooks in a second with Claymore --> AR --> Claymore, WITH a 70% damage boost on the second shot.
That drops Atlases just as fast as any GI.
Please, show me a Human Soldier who can do this :
I'm waiting
Show me a krogan that can do that too.
The only tactical cloak in game that is balanced right now is the volus cloak.
Guest_Lathrim_*
sca462069 wrote...
Lathrim wrote...
The Mad Hanar wrote...
blaaaaaaaaaarg wrote...
Well, now we know what topic brings out the worst in people. I have never seen the top players and forumites fighting among each other this much before.
Well, this is a fight that's existed since launch day. To this day the Infiltrators are the first class to get a nerf applied on to all of it's characters. Yet people still ask for more. Really, giving a character that has the Tac Cloak power Stim Packs was not a very sound move. It's pretty much giving a character the best damage output and the best survivability. No bueno. That one character on that one class is what makes it bad. The GI is debateable since it has really low health and shields.
And even then he still has amazing survivability due to TC and Hunter Mode. Health/Shields numbers do not tell the whole story.
Sorry, I don't play Geth much. But how does hunter mode & tactical cloak increase your survivability?
Modifié par Lathrim, 05 décembre 2012 - 02:32 .
Cyonan wrote...
Annomander wrote...
Show me a krogan that can do that too.
The only tactical cloak in game that is balanced right now is the volus cloak.
Care to explain to me how the Quarian Female Infiltrator is not balanced?
I have been thinking the same for awhile, make the cloak better for being invisible lower the bonus dam to approx 15% then un-nerf hunter mode and stim packs the piranha and bring the krysae to somewhere between now and when it was originally releasedAir Quotes wrote...
Don't blame Infiltrators. Blame the crappy all knowing enemies who mostly don't give a **** about cloaks utility. Cloak shouldn't give any damage or a very minor one. It should be pure utility. But psychic enemies, smallish maps require DPS and DPS only.
Cyonan wrote...
Annomander wrote...
Show me a krogan that can do that too.
The only tactical cloak in game that is balanced right now is the volus cloak.
Care to explain to me how the Quarian Female Infiltrator is not balanced?
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Feneckus wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
It's like trying to argue that the Human Soldier is OP because he can drop 2 mooks in a second with Claymore --> AR --> Claymore, WITH a 70% damage boost on the second shot.
That drops Atlases just as fast as any GI.
Please, show me a Human Soldier who can do this :
I'm waiting
I thought you used the Claymore HS often?
If you do you don't need me to show you.
Cyonan wrote...
Annomander wrote...
Show me a krogan that can do that too.
The only tactical cloak in game that is balanced right now is the volus cloak.
Care to explain to me how the Quarian Female Infiltrator is not balanced?
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Annomander wrote...
Cyonan wrote...
Annomander wrote...
Show me a krogan that can do that too.
The only tactical cloak in game that is balanced right now is the volus cloak.
Care to explain to me how the Quarian Female Infiltrator is not balanced?
She has tactical cloak.
Guest_Lathrim_*
hudder92 wrote...
What do you expect. When they nerf everything into the ground and do slight buffs to horribly underpowered kits, the only viable option to be successful is to use an Infiltrator. So yeah I feel your pain.
It never fails when I start a thread asking how best to use a certain garbage weapon.. I'm always told to use an infiltrator. All I want to know is why are all the weapons in this game balanced around Infiltrators?
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Feneckus wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Feneckus wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
It's like trying to argue that the Human Soldier is OP because he can drop 2 mooks in a second with Claymore --> AR --> Claymore, WITH a 70% damage boost on the second shot.
That drops Atlases just as fast as any GI.
Please, show me a Human Soldier who can do this :
I'm waiting
I thought you used the Claymore HS often?
If you do you don't need me to show you.
By the time a Claymore HS drops an Atlas' shields, a Javelin GI can kill two of them.
Guest_Lathrim_*
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Feneckus wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Feneckus wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
It's like trying to argue that the Human Soldier is OP because he can drop 2 mooks in a second with Claymore --> AR --> Claymore, WITH a 70% damage boost on the second shot.
That drops Atlases just as fast as any GI.
Please, show me a Human Soldier who can do this :
I'm waiting
I thought you used the Claymore HS often?
If you do you don't need me to show you.
By the time a Claymore HS drops an Atlas' shields, a Javelin GI can kill two of them.
www.youtube.com/watch
Guest_The Mad Hanar_*
Annomander wrote...
Cyonan wrote...
Annomander wrote...
Show me a krogan that can do that too.
The only tactical cloak in game that is balanced right now is the volus cloak.
Care to explain to me how the Quarian Female Infiltrator is not balanced?
She has tactical cloak.
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Lathrim wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Feneckus wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
Feneckus wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
It's like trying to argue that the Human Soldier is OP because he can drop 2 mooks in a second with Claymore --> AR --> Claymore, WITH a 70% damage boost on the second shot.
That drops Atlases just as fast as any GI.
Please, show me a Human Soldier who can do this :
I'm waiting
I thought you used the Claymore HS often?
If you do you don't need me to show you.
By the time a Claymore HS drops an Atlas' shields, a Javelin GI can kill two of them.
www.youtube.com/watch
I love how you mock instead of attempting to prove your point.
Guest_Lathrim_*
The Mad Hanar wrote...
Annomander wrote...
Cyonan wrote...
Annomander wrote...
Show me a krogan that can do that too.
The only tactical cloak in game that is balanced right now is the volus cloak.
Care to explain to me how the Quarian Female Infiltrator is not balanced?
She has tactical cloak.
How are Soldiers with Adrenaline Rush not overpowed then? Their ability does just 10% less damage and they can use automatic weapons with it. Answer me that.
Meistr_Chef wrote...
You know what I'm sick of reading this thread?
Posting extreme ends of the spectrum and using those examples as some kind of illustration of the norm.
Feneckus wrote...
Pretty simple.
80% damage bonus
Doesn't give a f'ck about cooldowns
Invisibility
Guest_Lord_Sirian_*
Lathrim wrote...
The Mad Hanar wrote...
Annomander wrote...
Cyonan wrote...
Annomander wrote...
Show me a krogan that can do that too.
The only tactical cloak in game that is balanced right now is the volus cloak.
Care to explain to me how the Quarian Female Infiltrator is not balanced?
She has tactical cloak.
How are Soldiers with Adrenaline Rush not overpowed then? Their ability does just 10% less damage and they can use automatic weapons with it. Answer me that.
Adrenaline Rush doesn't allow you to bypass enemies harmlessly at the same time.
Annomander wrote...
Meistr_Chef wrote...
You know what I'm sick of reading this thread?
Posting extreme ends of the spectrum and using those examples as some kind of illustration of the norm.
Well, where I come from, and the people i play with, they're not a bunch of idiots who can't play properly.
I have the delight of being able to call most of my friends list good, or better, players.
You can't balance something around the people who can't play properly. It doesn't work like that.
"Oh, the GI isn't too powerful, because not everyone can play like feneckus" is no argument.
And there's the ghost. Any moron can play the ghost.
Modifié par Meistr_Chef, 05 décembre 2012 - 02:41 .
Guest_The Mad Hanar_*
Lathrim wrote...
The Mad Hanar wrote...
Annomander wrote...
Cyonan wrote...
Annomander wrote...
Show me a krogan that can do that too.
The only tactical cloak in game that is balanced right now is the volus cloak.
Care to explain to me how the Quarian Female Infiltrator is not balanced?
She has tactical cloak.
How are Soldiers with Adrenaline Rush not overpowed then? Their ability does just 10% less damage and they can use automatic weapons with it. Answer me that.
Adrenaline Rush doesn't allow you to bypass enemies harmlessly at the same time.
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