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Kroitz wrote...

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Good on them as well. Say what you want about the endings, but the game itself was still superb and the conclusion of this amazing trilogy is definately one of those gaming milestones that the critics will eat up.

These days, the ending controversy just makes the game stand out more than anything else. The Extended Cut sorts out all the plot holes, but the controversy and the sheer subversive nature just makes it more interesting to write about than your generic functional endings where the good guy wins and there's a hook for the next sequel.


Bold for bold statement.

it was a correct statement.

Though, I do agree with you. It was bold to state it on this forum. I hope he has barriers over his flame shield.

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Gaming Journalism at its finest

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The EC sorts out all the plot holes, eh? Okay.

Why didn't the Reapers use the Citadel to shut down the mass relays like they've done with every other cycle? Because the Catalyst seemed pretty content with letting the cycle continue.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

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7-8? Well, that's your "opinion".....and nothing more. Too bad you're not a professional videogame journalist, I guess.

Besides, it wasn't just GI that gave it a high score. Every other major publication did.


And please, don't act like you speak for the majority of consumers. I know its hard to accept, but the popular opinion on the BSN and the popular opinion of the gaming community, are not one in the same.


Guess what. That "professional video game journalist" of yours is also stating nothing more but his opinion.

Same with every other major publication. Let's not even mention the fact that most journalists aren't playing through the entire game if it's like 30 hours long, since they have deadlines and such.

Also, the popular opinion of the gaming community is that ME3's endings sucked ass.

1. That was my entire point.(you obviously missed it) Which is why I said "too bad you're not a professional videogame journalist....", because then he can put forth his opinion for GOTY to whatever publication he would be working for.

2. Statement is an assumption. You can keep telling yourself that you somehow know these things though

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Someone With Mass wrote...

The EC sorts out all the plot holes, eh? Okay.

Why didn't the Reapers use the Citadel to shut down the mass relays like they've done with every other cycle? Because the Catalyst seemed pretty content with letting the cycle continue.

because they didn't flood in through the Citadel Relay like every cycle that has come before. (ME1)

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Game informer was mediocre all the time , as for gaming journalism dont make me even start.
Did anyone read the text?
WHAT CHOICES YOU IDIOT AUTHOR? they did not lead anywhere!
this is the THING that ME3 fails. Consequences to our actions. and i am not taking about the ending.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

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Oh no! Someone liked something I didn't! That's clearly impossible, so they must have been paid off.


Oh no. Somebody doesn't understand that a reviewer's job is to recommend games based on their quality and that Mass Effect 3 is a 7-8/10 game at the very best, but instead tries to recommend it to consumers as one of the best video game experiences ever, including even lying in the first sentence. Not to mention ignoring that other games that consumers disliked also got 10/10 and all that.

7-8? Well, that's your "opinion".....and nothing more. Too bad you're not a professional videogame journalist, I guess.

Besides, it wasn't just GI that gave it a high score. Every other major publication did.


And please, don't act like you speak for the majority of consumers. I know its hard to accept, but the popular opinion on the BSN and the popular opinion of the gaming community, are not one in the same.


It's the opinion of anyone who doesn't gush over heads and heels and look at the game critically on where it does good and where it does bad. I forgot that in todays "all major games must have 9-10/10" that 7 is seen as a bad score. It's also funny that you use the word professional, they're not. If they were then they would be incompetent. Tell me why for example ME 3 deserved 10/10 or MSG 4, or GTA IV.

Are you guys so much in love with stories, that you're willing to ignore the faults of a game?

lol well, they are indeed professionals. It's their profession. It's what they do for a living. It's okay you can't admit that fact. But that's exactly what it is. A fact.

Funny, you're still trying to dictate who's opinions are what...

And being a long time fan of the GTA series, I can honestly say that I can't stand GTAIV. And I think MGS4 is one of the most overrated games of the last decade(the entire series is imo).....but you know, those are just my own "opinions", and I surely don't think to myself: "whoever thinks those games are good, are just idiots and are completely wrong"


Where did I call you an idiot?

ME 3, suffers from a crappy journal system, drop in listening quests, day one DLC that's on the disk, glitches and a dream sequence that can't be skipped (very annoying for replay value), and a very anti climactic final mission, to name some of the things. That alone doesn't make it game of the year. A game like that (game of the year) has to have to solid controls, a good interface, polished up (so we don't see weird sprites, or Liara with head that comes out from the Exorcist) and have more missions than "Lol, here's that thing you wanted" and most of all replay value.

A beautiful thing about Metacritic is that it includes userreviews. That means amongst the fanboys, who will give whatever game a dev craps out 10/10 and the haters that gives 1/10 you'll have the honest bunch who actually REVIEWS the game. And from my own experience and judging by how often I've replayed it, ME 3 is at best 8/10 and at worst 7/10. Remember 7 is a good score. So a reviewer, who should know better (yet when it comes to big AAA titles, they seem to forget their critical thinking back home in a closet) to give it a game of the year recommendation, while ignorings it's flaw is innocently stupid at best and at worst, a sign of money under table. Considering the rumours and in times even evidence that's been about, it's safe to say that most reviewers are paid off.

Let me finish off by asking you something, if your website would only get early access to a game by promising the publishers to give the game nothing under 8/10, flew you to Hawaii in a super expensive hotel and had you try the game there, before flying you back all expenses paid. Would you rather be good friends with them and keep making sure that their games get a high score, so you'll keep getting earlier access to their stuff (thus helping traffic for your site) or be honest and always be late with everything, since publishers won't have you in good standing?

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Bioware TAKE NOTICE, you are falling apart and all these USELESS journalists praise your defined new rpg elements... Take notice, it is we the gamers that support you NOT the retarted 8 years old author

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What's the big deal here, really?

Basically every major game released this year will receive a GOTY, considering there are over hundreds of them being handed out. If someone thinks ME3 is worthy a GOTY, good for them, and good for BW. Personally I wouldn't even consider to nominate the game, but meh, who cares really.

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ioannisdenton wrote...

Game informer was mediocre all the time , as for gaming journalism dont make me even start.
Did anyone read the text?
WHAT CHOICES YOU IDIOT AUTHOR? they did not lead anywhere!
this is the THING that ME3 fails. Consequences to our actions. and i am not taking about the ending.


Calm down. They are paid off with advertisements everyone knows it, ignore the fanboys.

Remember last year when SWTOR was praised and given 8/10 - 10/10 ratings by every magazin out there?
We all know how that worked out the game was dead within the first month.

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Bourne Endeavor wrote...

They keep advertising this game where your choices matter. When can I play it?


it's called the walking dead

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Chewin3 wrote...

What's the big deal here, really?

Basically every major game released this year will receive a GOTY, considering there are over hundreds of them being handed out. If someone thinks ME3 is worthy a GOTY, good for them, and good for BW. Personally I wouldn't even consider to nominate the game, but meh, who cares really.


People that trust these reviewers and buy the games full price and then feel like "It's a good game, but it wasn't that good". Not everyone browses forums.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

The EC sorts out all the plot holes, eh? Okay.

Why didn't the Reapers use the Citadel to shut down the mass relays like they've done with every other cycle? Because the Catalyst seemed pretty content with letting the cycle continue.

because they didn't flood in through the Citadel Relay like every cycle that has come before. (ME1)


Still doesnt explain why they didnt go to the citadel first.
With the citadel they close down the relays network to isolate each system + plus they get all the info on the races.

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ioannisdenton wrote...

Bioware TAKE NOTICE, you are falling apart and all these USELESS journalists praise your defined new rpg elements... Take notice, it is we the gamers that support you NOT the retarted 8 years old author

  

what i dont understand here is the lack of (or apparent lack of) understanding they have for completely peeving off their fan base.  It was almost as if they said it was our fault we didn't get it.  What didn't we get?  The ending had no resolution at all, even with the EC.  There was no end, only more questions.   red, blue, green.  what the hell happened bioware?  You dont finish a novel with 2 chapters to go.

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Mcfly616 wrote...
1. That was my entire point.(you obviously missed it) Which is why I said "too bad you're not a professional videogame journalist....", because then he can put forth his opinion for GOTY to whatever publication he would be working for.

2. Statement is an assumption. You can keep telling yourself that you somehow know these things though


And I put "professional video game journalist" in quotation, because there's absolutely nothing professional about it, given how they're often eating up anything developers puts out, regardless of how blatantly bad the game is.

I've seen writers (who actually are educated in what they're doing) say how awful some of the writing in ME3 is from a structural standpoint. I think they're also a lot more credible than that sad excuse of journalism.

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dorktainian wrote...

ioannisdenton wrote...

Bioware TAKE NOTICE, you are falling apart and all these USELESS journalists praise your defined new rpg elements... Take notice, it is we the gamers that support you NOT the retarted 8 years old author

  

what i dont understand here is the lack of (or apparent lack of) understanding they have for completely peeving off their fan base.  It was almost as if they said it was our fault we didn't get it.  What didn't we get?  The ending had no resolution at all, even with the EC.  There was no end, only more questions.   red, blue, green.  what the hell happened bioware?  You dont finish a novel with 2 chapters to go.


Thats because Bioware=good, Fans=Evil

Its not like bioware proved it by being passive aggressive and playing the artisitc integrity card or send away 1000 $ dollars worth of cup cakes the fans send them.

No its those whiny fanboys attacking innocent bioware!

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I like the game so i am happy for ME3 and Bioware.

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Chewin3 wrote...

What's the big deal here, really?

Basically every major game released this year will receive a GOTY, considering there are over hundreds of them being handed out. If someone thinks ME3 is worthy a GOTY, good for them, and good for BW. Personally I wouldn't even consider to nominate the game, but meh, who cares really.


Agreed. Only BAFTAs or something similar are worth the attention.

And nice to see you back, Chew! :D

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Makes sense. The game is a masterpiece of epic proportions. Most mind blowing video game ending I've ever experienced.

My personal option though. Kudos to Bioware for winning. They deserve it.


Looks at sig, hahahahhaha.



Rofl

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because they didn't flood in through the Citadel Relay like every cycle that has come before. (ME1)


That doesn't excuse them from taking over the Citadel. Besides, who's going to stop them? One Reaper alone managed to do a number on the Citadel fleet. If they send like five of the capital Reapers or so, the Citadel will be theirs within the day.

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there is a difference between liking the story (or lack of resolution of - which sucks) and gameplay (which is ok - but GOTY?)

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EA's profits from ME3 will surely drop significantly from bribing all these media outlets.

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MrGMM88 wrote...

ioannisdenton wrote...

Game informer was mediocre all the time , as for gaming journalism dont make me even start.
Did anyone read the text?
WHAT CHOICES YOU IDIOT AUTHOR? they did not lead anywhere!
this is the THING that ME3 fails. Consequences to our actions. and i am not taking about the ending.


Calm down. They are paid off with advertisements everyone knows it, ignore the fanboys.

Remember last year when SWTOR was praised and given 8/10 - 10/10 ratings by every magazin out there?
We all know how that worked out the game was dead within the first month.

yeah but these retards destroy gaming. seriously, the medium tries to get better with mpore thoughtfull games and these incompoetent writers who have an opinion praise Dull Mp  and watered down rpg elements and idiotic story with asspulls.
Now all of a sudden Bioware will become  "koul" at the eyes of kids and those fimbleminded that trust by the letter these reviews

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Congratulations for the Tuchanka and Rannoch arcs, Grissom Academy, Grunt's mission, Anderson's material, and most of the squaddie dialogue and interaction. Those segments were indeed GOTY-worthy.

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dreman9999 wrote...

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I give up standards for games has fallen to a new low

Prepare to watch the mass majority of the game industry give ME3 goty.


Expected, we all knew their pockets were deep.
But never how far they would go.