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[dancarrero]

:devil::devil::devil:
Its a diabolical conspiracy!!!

Modifié par dancarrero, 05 décembre 2012 - 12:38 .

[ioannisdenton]

Mcfly616 wrote...

ioannisdenton wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I'll start my 8th playthrough today. Amazing game. I keep discovering new stuff every time I play.

same here. On my 12th playthrough now(10 since the EC was released), and I see new scenes or hear new dialogue in every playthrough. Maybe the people that say theres no variety in this game, are those that spoiled it all for themselves on YouTube. Or maybe they just haven't played the game more than once or twice to experience all the different little things that change on every playthrough.

again i ask.. seriously??? what are the new things cause in my 2 lengthy thorough playthroghs with 2 different sheps one paragn the other renegade i saw all that there is.

considering you can only take 2 squadmates with you on each mission, and the variation in outcomes of certain missions....seeing "all there is" in 2 playthroughs, isn't even possible. Lol

Unless you watch YouTube

So it is minor dialogue changes then. The outcomes are the same i guess though. On thessia Javik is almost mandatory and a no brainer not to take him along with Liara.
Suppose an outcome would be different then it would be great. But the genophage will always end in the same 2 ways and always one is going to broker a peace with Geth Quarians.
Sadly past Bioware games used to be more complex than just minot dialogue changes.
Why would someone prefer one to another since he can have both?
this is like in Me2; who would not do loyal missions or not assemble a team or sell Legion or Not wake grunt?
For he record i ve played Me2 7 times and i enjoyed all of them and me3 2 times and i enjoyed the second one with the EC.

[crimzontearz]

well they just managed to sell more copies of their mag.

whatever

[dreamgazer]

crimzontearz wrote...

well they just managed to sell more copies of their mag.

They did?

[Mcfly616]

ioannisdenton wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

ioannisdenton wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I'll start my 8th playthrough today. Amazing game. I keep discovering new stuff every time I play.

same here. On my 12th playthrough now(10 since the EC was released), and I see new scenes or hear new dialogue in every playthrough. Maybe the people that say theres no variety in this game, are those that spoiled it all for themselves on YouTube. Or maybe they just haven't played the game more than once or twice to experience all the different little things that change on every playthrough.

again i ask.. seriously??? what are the new things cause in my 2 lengthy thorough playthroghs with 2 different sheps one paragn the other renegade i saw all that there is.

considering you can only take 2 squadmates with you on each mission, and the variation in outcomes of certain missions....seeing "all there is" in 2 playthroughs, isn't even possible. Lol

Unless you watch YouTube

So it is minor dialogue changes then. The outcomes are the same i guess though. On thessia Javik is almost mandatory and a no brainer not to take him along with Liara.
Suppose an outcome would be different then it would be great. But the genophage will always end in the same 2 ways and always one is going to broker a peace with Geth Quarians.
Sadly past Bioware games used to be more complex than just minot dialogue changes.
Why would someone prefer one to another since he can have both?
this is like in Me2; who would not do loyal missions or not assemble a team or sell Legion or Not wake grunt?
For he record i ve played Me2 7 times and i enjoyed all of them and me3 2 times and i enjoyed the second one with the EC.

Bioware was always going to tell their story. I never expected anything life altering from decisions. Though I always knew they'd change the details and effect the way in which the story played out. And they do. You ask: who's going to choose anything other than Geth/Quarian peace? who wouldn't do the loyalty missions? Etc etc....well, probably someone who likes to see the many different ways the story can play out.

Just because certain variations are more often chosen than others, doesn't mean that variation is lacking.(its awesome seeing Kirrahe speaking to his STG troops on Priority Earth in place of Wrex and his Krogan battalion) Bioware deserves the credit for implementing something that has never been done over the course of a trilogy

[crimzontearz]

dreamgazer wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

well they just managed to sell more copies of their mag.

They did?

and get hits online


yes like those mags that scored halo 4 a 2 out of 10

[CptBomBom00]

I don't even........ what...but how?

[Wintermist]

Congrats ME3 team.

[dreamgazer]

crimzontearz wrote...

yes like those mags that scored halo 4 a 2 out of 10

It'll gain hits, sure, but it certainly won't spike sales or subscriptions.

There's a difference between cynically scoring a popular franchise low (which is pretty much how Forbes gamed the system and spiked subscribers during the more volatile days of ME3 discussion), and emphasizing a "controversial" bit of storytelling as the year's best.

[ioannisdenton]

Mcfly616 wrote...

ioannisdenton wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

ioannisdenton wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

I'll start my 8th playthrough today. Amazing game. I keep discovering new stuff every time I play.

same here. On my 12th playthrough now(10 since the EC was released), and I see new scenes or hear new dialogue in every playthrough. Maybe the people that say theres no variety in this game, are those that spoiled it all for themselves on YouTube. Or maybe they just haven't played the game more than once or twice to experience all the different little things that change on every playthrough.

again i ask.. seriously??? what are the new things cause in my 2 lengthy thorough playthroghs with 2 different sheps one paragn the other renegade i saw all that there is.

considering you can only take 2 squadmates with you on each mission, and the variation in outcomes of certain missions....seeing "all there is" in 2 playthroughs, isn't even possible. Lol

Unless you watch YouTube

So it is minor dialogue changes then. The outcomes are the same i guess though. On thessia Javik is almost mandatory and a no brainer not to take him along with Liara.
Suppose an outcome would be different then it would be great. But the genophage will always end in the same 2 ways and always one is going to broker a peace with Geth Quarians.
Sadly past Bioware games used to be more complex than just minot dialogue changes.
Why would someone prefer one to another since he can have both?
this is like in Me2; who would not do loyal missions or not assemble a team or sell Legion or Not wake grunt?
For he record i ve played Me2 7 times and i enjoyed all of them and me3 2 times and i enjoyed the second one with the EC.

Bioware was always going to tell their story. I never expected anything life altering from decisions. Though I always knew they'd change the details and effect the way in which the story played out. And they do. You ask: who's going to choose anything other than Geth/Quarian peace? who wouldn't do the loyalty missions? Etc etc....well, probably someone who likes to see the many different ways the story can play out.

Just because certain variations are more often chosen than others, doesn't mean that variation is lacking.(its awesome seeing Kirrahe speaking to his STG troops on Priority Earth in place of Wrex and his Krogan battalion) Bioware deserves the credit for implementing something that has never been done over the course of a trilogy

I kinda agree on these
But it is not their story, it is our story, well since Me3 that is. Me1 and ME2 was our story , bioware stated that but in Me3 thing got very much narrowed down. even the game feels smaller.
I do not hate Me3 i just am very dissapointed , and this is not to because i did not play what i wanted to play in me3. It is just all my expectaions from previous choices where i literally stood 10 minutes before deciding (rachni, counsilor, collector base,  morinth etc) proved to be just cosmetic.

[crimzontearz]

dreamgazer wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

yes like those mags that scored halo 4 a 2 out of 10

It'll gain hits, sure, but it certainly won't spike sales or subscriptions.

There's a difference between cynically scoring a popular franchise low (which is pretty much how Forbes gamed the system and spiked subscribers during the more volatile days of ME3 discussion), and emphasizing a "controversial" bit of storytelling as the year's best.

uhm...no...the idea is pretty much the same but the result is gained through different venues

[dreamgazer]

crimzontearz wrote...

uhm...no...the idea is pretty much the same but the result is gained through different venues

Well, that's simply inaccurate, but knock yourself out buddy.

Unless, of course, you're referring to ad revenue on the site, to which you're partially correct.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 05 décembre 2012 - 01:23 .

[Someone With Mass]

J. Reezy wrote...
I've heard only a small amount of criticism concerning that game. I may check it out when I get some MS points.

It does a child character infinitely better than ME3 too.

Which is kind of sad, really.

[ElSuperGecko]

Congratulations Bioware, thoroughly deserved! Thanks for an incredible game & the amazing support you've given it for both single player and multiplayer since launch.

I'm looking forward to seeing what's going to be coming next from you guys and girls!

Modifié par ElSuperGecko, 05 décembre 2012 - 01:24 .

[archangel1996]

Where does EA find the money to pay Gameinformer? after all those MP free packs....

[crimzontearz]

dreamgazer wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

uhm...no...the idea is pretty much the same but the result is gained through different venues

Well, that's simply inaccurate, but knock yourself out buddy.

Unless, of course, you're referring to ad revenue on the site, to which you're partially correct.

I am....I know it will not actually rise subscriptions or boost individual sales (I worked at games top after all) but the truth is GI never mentioned ANY of ME3 flaws and to this day still does not so I have to wonder if this was not planned from the beginning

[SNascimento]

I keep wondering just how much egocentric (or plain stupid) a person must be to think that becuase a gaming site/magazine has an opinion that is different from this it must have been paid off.
.
It's pitiful, really.

[crimzontearz]

SNascimento wrote...

I keep wondering just how much egocentric (or plain stupid) a person must be to think that becuase a gaming site/magazine has an opinion that is different from this it must have been paid off.
.
It's pitiful, really.

because it was done before remember?

[El Mito]

All I can say is: undeserved. I can think of a handful of games much more deserving.

[mcgreggers99]

Congrats to the whole ME3 Team. Haters gonna hate.

[FaWa]

Yea this kind of makes gaming journalism more of a joke than it already was.

[bleetman]

Heh, gaming journalism.

[dreamgazer]

FaWa wrote...

Yea this kind of makes gaming journalism more of a joke than it already was.

Well, it colors GameInformer, but considering it comes with every GameStop discount card purchased and serves more as a visual guide for the employees in those stores, I wouldn't make a sweeping judgment against the entire industry.

[Applepie_Svk]

dreman9999 wrote...
Because ME3 having more dialogue thant ME1 or 2 it some how has less story.

Quality =/= Quantity

ME1,ME2 freedom of conversation wheel / your Shepard < autodialogs / BioWare´s artistic integrity 
 
Number of retcons and fails in ME3 is unbeatable... not mentioned that hearing 2-3rd time in first half of game sentence as : Ash I am not with Cerberus...isn´t much creative neither win...

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 05 décembre 2012 - 02:29 .

[Taboo]