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dreman9999 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

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WTF I thought they would choose borderlands 2 or halo 4 because they are less controversial

You're surprised that the highest rated game of the year got game of the year? I think you need to understand that everyone else is not going to ignore 98% of a great game because of a contriversial 2%.


If ME3 is the highest rated game this year, then why are there 5 other games with higher meta ratings?

Hightest rate "publised" game system game.


This post makes literally no sense.

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Lightning Cloud wrote...
Do people really care?

I'm afraid so. :pinched:

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Lightning Cloud wrote...

Do people really care?


Yes, because this is how BioWare will judge how the next game will be like. If anything it will be streamlined even further.

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o Ventus wrote...

This post makes literally no sense.


Welcome to the BSN.

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Cool. Don't care.

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Lightning Cloud wrote...

Do people really care?


I care about negligence from a gaming publication, yes.  

Not saying ME3 is a bad game, but it shouldn't be acknowledged as the cock of the walk.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 05 décembre 2012 - 04:09 .


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EnvyTB075 wrote...

Lightning Cloud wrote...

Do people really care?


Yes, because this is how BioWare will judge how the next game will be like. If anything it will be streamlined even further.


Not every aspect of ME3 was streamlined. Customization and leveling, for example, had been expanded on.

EDIT: 

Just saying. I don't see how winning awards will make them more willing to neglect feedback.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 05 décembre 2012 - 04:06 .


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EnvyTB075 wrote...

Lightning Cloud wrote...

Do people really care?


Yes, because this is how BioWare will judge how the next game will be like. If anything it will be streamlined even further.

Dude, that ship sailed when they hid behind the 75 perfect scores, tbh. This isn't anything new, don't get too worked up over it.

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Femlob wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

This post makes literally no sense.


Welcome to the BSN.


Nah, just the Seival/Dreman/txgoldrush/Our_Last_Scene cesspit of stupidity.


MegaSovereign wrote...

Not every aspect of ME3 was streamlined. Customization and leveling, for example, had been expanded on.


Customisation itself broke a number of things with the Lore and phsyics (example: extended barrels wouldn't affect damage output) though thats an actual "nitpick".

In the areas where the game actually mattered, the dialogue, the role playing aspect as shepard, that took an unforgiveable step back.

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The "customization" of ME3 actually diminishes it's rpg value. The class balance was thrown out the window for action.


That too. I mean customisation in itself didn't break anything, just its addition to the other horrible qualities diminished the games value overall.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 05 décembre 2012 - 04:14 .


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olollllooloool yay

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Savage Baird wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

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EnvyTB075 wrote...

That first sentence....

Safe to say none of them used their brains when playing the game.

Or maybe ME3 is not as bad as you think. It isthe highest rate game of the year. This is just the first of a massive amount of awards.


CoD MW3 was the highest rated game of its year, does that make it a good game?

No.

Cod MW3 is not the highest rated game of the year. It's not even the highest rated shooter, Farcry 3 is the highest rated shooter.
 ME3, if you take the time to look, is the highest rated  published game of the year.

MW3 was last year and it was the highest rated champ. ME3 was garbage and I can thing of a handful of other games that were a better choice.

Skyrim was last year's highest rated champ. Skyrim is a 96. Cod mw3 is an 88. It only sold the most, not scored the most.

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o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

o Ventus wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

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WTF I thought they would choose borderlands 2 or halo 4 because they are less controversial

You're surprised that the highest rated game of the year got game of the year? I think you need to understand that everyone else is not going to ignore 98% of a great game because of a contriversial 2%.


If ME3 is the highest rated game this year, then why are there 5 other games with higher meta ratings?

Hightest rate "publised" game system game.


This post makes literally no sense.

I mean non dlc. The only games higher then ME3 are downloadable games and a vita game.

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dreman9999 wrote...

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Not really surprising at all... according to metacritic the only other game that is more highly rated is the Walking Dead, which I doubt could win very much purely due to its episodic nature.


Metacritic isn't a solid indicator of which game wins GOTY.

ME2 ( I believe) was the highest rated game of 2010 yet that award went to Red Dead Redemption.

RDR was higher.


RDR has a 95 metascore...compared to ME2's 96.

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dreman9999 wrote...

Skyrim was last year's highest rated champ. Skyrim is a 96. Cod mw3 is an 88. It only sold the most, not scored the most.


Let's remain honest here: Skyrim got a 96, and COD MW3 got an 88. Neither were worth the score.

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Funny thing is, GI is laughed at when it comes to awards and reviews. It's just GameStop's marketing rag, after all. I mean, it truly is in the lowest tier of respectability (And for games reviewing, that's saying a lot.)

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MegaSovereign wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

Lightning Cloud wrote...

Do people really care?


Yes, because this is how BioWare will judge how the next game will be like. If anything it will be streamlined even further.


Not every aspect of ME3 was streamlined. Customization and leveling, for example, had been expanded on.




The "customization" of ME3 actually diminishes it's rpg value. The class balance was thrown out the window for action.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 05 décembre 2012 - 04:11 .


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Femlob wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Skyrim was last year's highest rated champ. Skyrim is a 96. Cod mw3 is an 88. It only sold the most, not scored the most.


Let's remain honest here: Skyrim got a 96, and COD MW3 got an 88. Neither were worth the score.

Skyrim was amazing

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Mcfly616 wrote...

Saw this coming a mile away. Now watch as more gaming publications choose it as well. It won't be as unanimous as Skyrim, Fallout 3 and Red Dead/ME2 were.....but there will be more outlets declaring ME3 their Game of the Year.

There's simply not that many games that have matched its quality or developer support this year. Also its the highest rated game of the year. The majority of BSN may be surprised to find out that they don't represent the majority of the overall fanbase.


Except it's not the fans voting for it to be GOTY, it's the publication. Shall i remind you ME3 didn't win a single category in the Golden Joystick awards, which is voted by the public?

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Customisation itself broke a number of things with the Lore and phsyics (example: extended barrels wouldn't affect damage output).

In the areas where the game actually mattered, the dialogue, the role playing aspect as shepard, that took an unforgiveable step back.


Auto-dialogue is an issue in itself but the silver lining to this is that the dialogue options that you do get actually have more of an impact than they did in ME1 or ME2. I personally would like less auto-dialogue so I do agree in that respect.

Also, another example of BSN providing valuable negative feedback while neglecting what Bioware did right:

No one ever mentions how the reputation system has been fixed to where Paragades aren't penalized for not having either paragon/renegade bar filled up. To me that's a huge improvement since before I'd have to glitch or cheat with my paragades in order to resolve conflicts that would need high Paragon or Renegade.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 05 décembre 2012 - 04:13 .


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Steelcan wrote...

Femlob wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Skyrim was last year's highest rated champ. Skyrim is a 96. Cod mw3 is an 88. It only sold the most, not scored the most.


Let's remain honest here: Skyrim got a 96, and COD MW3 got an 88. Neither were worth the score.

Skyrim was amazing


Skyrim was so widely popular  due to a great advertising campaign, and Bethesda not ****ing everything up. (Bethesda not ****ing everything up is an acheivment in itself tbh) Skyrim was a great game because it brought new ideas with old in a somewhat cohesive way. ME3 did none of this

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Except it's not the fans voting for it to be GOTY, it's the publication. Shall i remind you ME3 didn't win a single category in the Golden Joystick awards, which is voted by the public?


Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner. It has failed miserably in public polls, which speaks much against GI's decision.

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The gaming media and the fans especially BSN fans have an antagonistic relationship towards one another. Many publications never even finished ME3 before they reviewed it and the role of Chobot in ME3 raises a lot of questions about conflicts of interest. Game Informer in particular came under fire as did a few others. I wonder how much of their decision was about sticking it to the fans vs a genuine like of ME3. Even "pro-enders" or whatever they're called here share the contempt.


This is more or less something I was going to bring up.  I'm not going to be surprised if we see some of these just because of how various media outlets covered the whole ending business.  I'd like to think that the explosive reaction might make some of them reconsider, but the coverage makes me doubt if this is the case.  A lot of journalists were voicing opinions based on concepts alone without even investigating what was being said, so I don't have a lot of faith in the idea that many of them have been convinced that there was merit to the complaints.

And while I don't think that many members of the gaming media is "on the take" I do think there is still plenty of potential for conflicts of interest.  The pressure to maintain friendly relationships and develop contacts still exerts pressure to come down on a certain side.  Jessica Chobot's inclusion in the game is definitely something that at least raises question marks.  Sure, she might not have reviewed the game for any site, but she is closely associated with IGN, and that at least gives the impression that a conflict of interest exists, and that influences the credibility of such sites. 

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Also, another example of BSN providing valuable negative feedback while neglecting what Bioware did right:

No one ever mentions how the reputation system has been fixed to where Paragades aren't penalized for not having either paragon/renegade bar filled up. To me that's a huge improvement since before I'd have to glitch or cheat with my paragades in order to resolve conflicts that would need high Paragon or Renegade.



Bioware fixing a problem is good, but why should they be given GOTY when they fixed a mistake that shouldn't have been there in the first place? 

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EnvyTB075 wrote...

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This post makes literally no sense.


Welcome to the BSN.


Nah, just the Seival/Dreman/txgoldrush/Our_Last_Scene cesspit of stupidity.



lol yeah

Out all of them txgoldrush is my favorite. He's at least entertaining.

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When did people start listening and taking Gameinformer serious?