Next gen consoles vs PC
#1
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 09:53
#2
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 09:58
#3
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 10:12
#4
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 10:15
#5
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 10:24
AMD should be providing the chip for the next Xbox as well, and many people are expecting a console from Valve, also just a typical PC in a fancy box.
#6
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 10:39
Fozee wrote...
Awful console ports may actually not be an issue with next-gen consoles. Current word is that the next Playstation is simply an average gaming PC shoved in a fancy box, it's using a seemingly normal AMD APU. They wouldn't be sending a system like that to developers if it didn't represent the final product, technically.
AMD should be providing the chip for the next Xbox as well, and many people are expecting a console from Valve, also just a typical PC in a fancy box.
That is one of my main Issues is crappy port for PC users
#7
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 10:46
Fozee wrote...
Awful console ports may actually not be an issue with next-gen consoles. Current word is that the next Playstation is simply an average gaming PC shoved in a fancy box, it's using a seemingly normal AMD APU. They wouldn't be sending a system like that to developers if it didn't represent the final product, technically.
AMD should be providing the chip for the next Xbox as well, and many people are expecting a console from Valve, also just a typical PC in a fancy box.
Thats ONE issue of ports, the other being s***ty UI/controls, like the "awesome button!" in ME3 that does like half the things in the game.
#8
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 11:48
Fozee wrote...
Awful console ports may actually not be an issue with next-gen consoles. Current word is that the next Playstation is simply an average gaming PC shoved in a fancy box, it's using a seemingly normal AMD APU. They wouldn't be sending a system like that to developers if it didn't represent the final product, technically.
AMD should be providing the chip for the next Xbox as well, and many people are expecting a console from Valve, also just a typical PC in a fancy box.
Just a another reason for developers to be even more lazier with their ports. As long as they can chuck out even remotely working product they seem to be happy.
It might make some more willing to do PC port but I doubt the quality will improve, just the opposite.
#9
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 12:00
Fozee wrote...
Awful console ports may actually not be an issue with next-gen consoles. Current word is that the next Playstation is simply an average gaming PC shoved in a fancy box, it's using a seemingly normal AMD APU. They wouldn't be sending a system like that to developers if it didn't represent the final product, technically.
AMD should be providing the chip for the next Xbox as well, and many people are expecting a console from Valve, also just a typical PC in a fancy box.
If Valve makes a console they're definitely going to be providing access to fan made mods. I wonder if that would ever change Microsoft and Sony's minds on the subject.
#10
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 01:45
As for ports, there are NUMEROUS games that are so badly ported that I either don't buy them at all or I wait until they are $5 bucks on a Steam super sale. For me a bad port is a messed up interface mostly and lack of much needed options. Field of View being the most notable. If a developer doesn't include a field of view configuration toggle, it means they don't care much about the PC market. Not being able to have user configurable keys, not recognizing that a mouse can have more than 2 buttons... those kinds of things. I also consider certain types of games to be "console" games. Most people know them as button mashers. Generally I stay clear of those too.
#11
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 02:37
#12
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 05:34
#13
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 05:57
#14
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 06:01
#15
Posté 05 décembre 2012 - 06:04
It's not even average. I did a small test with Intel HD 4000 (just wanted to see how it runs it, I was rather surprised) did a much better job than my PS3 in ME3 demo.Fozee wrote...
Awful console ports may actually not be an issue with next-gen consoles. Current word is that the next Playstation is simply an average gaming PC shoved in a fancy box, it's using a seemingly normal AMD APU. They wouldn't be sending a system like that to developers if it didn't represent the final product, technically.
AMD should be providing the chip for the next Xbox as well, and many people are expecting a console from Valve, also just a typical PC in a fancy box.
I'm a PC gamer though and would never switch to console gaming. The PS3 is fine Blu-Ray player though. The current gen is really over. Nothing has really happened in ages when it comes to graphics in games and the hardware is limiting the gameplay too (mainly thanks to ridiculously low amount of ram).
#16
Posté 06 décembre 2012 - 12:58
Tup3xi wrote...
It's not even average. I did a small test with Intel HD 4000 (just wanted to see how it runs it, I was rather surprised) did a much better job than my PS3 in ME3 demo.Fozee wrote...
Awful console ports may actually not be an issue with next-gen consoles. Current word is that the next Playstation is simply an average gaming PC shoved in a fancy box, it's using a seemingly normal AMD APU. They wouldn't be sending a system like that to developers if it didn't represent the final product, technically.
AMD should be providing the chip for the next Xbox as well, and many people are expecting a console from Valve, also just a typical PC in a fancy box.
I'm a PC gamer though and would never switch to console gaming. The PS3 is fine Blu-Ray player though. The current gen is really over. Nothing has really happened in ages when it comes to graphics in games and the hardware is limiting the gameplay too (mainly thanks to ridiculously low amount of ram).
The next Playstation's development kits are reportedly using an AMD A10 APU, which is significantly faster than the Intel 4000, even without the chip-focused optimization that will happen.
#17
Posté 06 décembre 2012 - 04:33
Robhuzz wrote...
Crappy ports go further than bad graphics though. Highly annoying UI, controls and FOV come to mind.
And DRM bleeding over
#18
Posté 06 décembre 2012 - 02:31
MichaelStuart wrote...
As long as it has controller support, I will be happy with the PC version.
Controller on PC why Keyboard and mouse are so much better
#19
Posté 06 décembre 2012 - 03:04
Osena109 wrote...
MichaelStuart wrote...
As long as it has controller support, I will be happy with the PC version.
Controller on PC why Keyboard and mouse are so much better
Congratulations, you were the first to ask that inevitable and needless question to that post. I guess the other 9000 times it was asked in response to other identicle posts didn't beat that dead horse sufficiently eh? Theres still a bit of squishy flesh to pulverize somewhere I bet. The beating shall go on until there is not a single atom of solid dead horse remaining.
#20
Posté 06 décembre 2012 - 04:00
As for release date. That depends on the console companies. If Microsoft is willing to pay for a 30 day exlucive, I'm sure EA/Bioware will be happy to oblige. But I don't know how likely that is: DA3 will probably selll 3-4 million copies, which is great. But I don't think anyone will consider it a "console seller" (A game you will buy a console for).
Ofcourse it realy depends on how awesome DA3 will look with the new engine. My bet: extemely!
#21
Posté 06 décembre 2012 - 04:08
Fozee wrote...
Awful console ports may actually not be an issue with next-gen consoles. Current word is that the next Playstation is simply an average gaming PC shoved in a fancy box, it's using a seemingly normal AMD APU. They wouldn't be sending a system like that to developers if it didn't represent the final product, technically.
AMD should be providing the chip for the next Xbox as well, and many people are expecting a console from Valve, also just a typical PC in a fancy box.
Hope this turns out to be the case. If so, sounds like great news for the prospect of PC versions being better optimized in the future and games which are better able to make use of modern CPUs, more persistent data, etc.
Modifié par naughty99, 06 décembre 2012 - 04:09 .
#22
Posté 06 décembre 2012 - 04:12
Modifié par FaWa, 06 décembre 2012 - 04:13 .
#23
Posté 06 décembre 2012 - 04:37
Robhuzz wrote...
Crappy ports go further than bad graphics though. Highly annoying UI, controls and FOV come to mind.
Yeah, I'm more looking forward to the improvement in the AI, level layouts, and camera options in the next gen ports. Or at least the potential for them. Eye candy can be nice though.
Modifié par relhart, 06 décembre 2012 - 04:39 .
#24
Posté 06 décembre 2012 - 06:12
Osena109 wrote...
MichaelStuart wrote...
As long as it has controller support, I will be happy with the PC version.
Controller on PC why Keyboard and mouse are so much better
I disagree, mostly because I find keyboard and mouse slow and uncomfortably to use.
#25
Posté 06 décembre 2012 - 06:41
I really have no idea what this means, however I'll take a guess... whatever platforms DA3 is released on, they will all be released simultaneously. Hopefully we might even get it on the same day in the UK! (wishful thinking...)Osena109 wrote...
I think it will be pashed back to be Set on those Con as a PC user my self will we get the game befor them?





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