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Seth Green, Sam Hulick, and Mac Walters confirmed for post Omega DLC.


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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

And you guys wonder why the devs don't come on here to answer questions.


When it comes to answering questions about ME3, BioWare is divided into two groups of people: those who are allowed to freely speak their minds without fear of retribution, and those who are not allowed to freely speak their minds without fear of retribution.

The latter group is comprised of a disproportionate amount of people and is effectively useless since none of them are allowed to freely speak their minds without fear of retribution. The former group is comprised of a handful of people and is effectively useless since all they do is damage control and all they sprout is PR Speak. Neither group is going to provide me with honest answers that will illuminate the debacle that is Mass Effect 3.

So tell me, why would I want any of them to come on here and answer questions?

Modifié par Femlob, 06 décembre 2012 - 12:46 .


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Will this make next dlc finally make a lot of fans happy with the game overall? It will be interesting to see.

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Can't wait to see super Mac in up coming dlc....

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I hope one of Shepard's battle banter is "Hold on, I'm speculating on what to do next!"

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Shepard: "Did we get a fix on that signal before the ship entered the Relay?"
Joker: "Negative, Commander. Lots of speculation for everybody."

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JeffZero wrote...

Shepard: "Did we get a fix on that signal before the ship entered the Relay?"
Joker: "Negative, Commander. Lots of speculation for everybody."


Ahahahaha. 

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This is one of the few moments where i actually got no clue whatsoever about what might happen. Adding Mac into the mix just ask for additional speculations

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"Tossing in piano and muted strings for this one particular piece," he added. "High potential for tears."

Manipulative sad piano music? What could that be for. Hmm... I know a lot of people have asked for me2 squadmate/romance dlc. Hopefully we'll get to see some more content with the old squad. Or at least some post-ending "reunion" dlc. Then again it could be something completely different.

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darthnick427 wrote...

Everything was fine until Bioware decided to have Mac Walters on the DLC writing team. Artistic integrity they said.....Goddamn terrorist I said...


You better hope that Mac wasn't the one who wrote for Zaeed. Otherwise your argument fails.

Walters wrote all of the comics, they're good. So he's not the awful writer you make him out to be.

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

Everything was fine until Bioware decided to have Mac Walters on the DLC writing team. Artistic integrity they said.....Goddamn terrorist I said...


You better hope that Mac wasn't the one who wrote for Zaeed. Otherwise your argument fails.

Walters wrote all of the comics, they're good. So he's not the awful writer you make him out to be.

Being good at writing comics and being a lead writer for the finale of an entire metaplot are two very different things. Not to meniton I'm not crazy about a lot of the comics, myself.

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So, those who are responsible for writing nonsensical retarded clowns show, are back for more.
And this is a good news?

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And who, pretell, would write for a bioware dlc, instead of the bioware writers?

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xsdob wrote...

And who, pretell, would write for a bioware dlc, instead of the bioware writers?


Well, Koobismo has written a pretty amazing Mass Effect story so far. I'd love to see what he'd come up with for a story DLC! <3

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xsdob wrote...

And who, pretell, would write for a bioware dlc, instead of the bioware writers?

Exactly. :wizard:

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Maxster_ wrote...

xsdob wrote...

And who, pretell, would write for a bioware dlc, instead of the bioware writers?

Exactly. :wizard:


So you just complained for the sake of complaining. Alright.

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Reth Shepherd wrote...

xsdob wrote...

And who, pretell, would write for a bioware dlc, instead of the bioware writers?


Well, Koobismo has written a pretty amazing Mass Effect story so far. I'd love to see what he'd come up with for a story DLC! <3


Gee, I wonder why you would say that? It's not like your displaying anything big and colorful to show you would favor his work over anyone elses.

Anyway, I do not support the indoctrination theory, or the notion of a conventional victory, so I'm not too keen on having one of its most influenceal contributors involved in the dlc. Besides, he is essentially a fanfic writer, using other peoples works to springboard his own stuff.

Still, the guy meet courtney taylor, so he's pretty awesome.

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Sil wrote...

One thing we should all remember:

Due to the DLC size limit on the Xbox 360, this DLC will have a maximum size of 2gb. Do not expect too much from this, because Bioware have proven to be poor at compression and basic layout for DLC(2gb Extended Cut which could've been done on a vastly smaller filesize). This DLC may turn out to be very important to the story, it may turn out to be brilliant, but don't expect too much from it. The filesize limit sadly prohibits that.

And my answer to this is go to expansion territory if you have to but for god's sake do a good job on this. I for one would like bsn to go back to what it was.

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InTheZone wrote...

**** YES. Seth Green is back. We're gonna go find Commander Shep's body!


I giggled.  It was a good giggle.  Full of hope and wonder.  :lol:

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Props to Seth Green for returning... He's kind of big time... Too bad no news of Yvonne returning... She's too busy with Dexter :P ...

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Well it seems to be that this will be their last chance, I mean some might say its too late! But reality is, you still want this fixed somehow, and you will jump at any possible fix. This is personally my last hope, because otherwise I have no intentions to play future titles of the franchise so that they can screw them in the end.

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xsdob wrote...

Reth Shepherd wrote...

xsdob wrote...

And who, pretell, would write for a bioware dlc, instead of the bioware writers?


Well, Koobismo has written a pretty amazing Mass Effect story so far. I'd love to see what he'd come up with for a story DLC! <3


Gee, I wonder why you would say that? It's not like your displaying anything big and colorful to show you would favor his work over anyone elses.

Anyway, I do not support the indoctrination theory, or the notion of a conventional victory, so I'm not too keen on having one of its most influenceal contributors involved in the dlc. Besides, he is essentially a fanfic writer, using other peoples works to springboard his own stuff.

Still, the guy meet courtney taylor, so he's pretty awesome.


Whether or not you happen to like the ideas he used as a base for his work, he's still a strong writer. He's gone to the trouble of going over his work with a fine-toothed comb to weed out errors, plot holes, and the like. He's portrayed the characters of others strongly, consistently, and most of all, believably; something that is far harder to do than with your own original characters. He's already proved that he can write a tight, emotional, and compelling story in the Mass Effect universe (though I grant the Marauder Shields story itself would be difficult to portray ingame, given that we are seeing through others' eyes than Shepard.) And so far the plot he's offered holds together very well. Besides, fanfic doesn't matter quite so badly in the gaming or television world. In fact, I've heard stories of writers being asked to write fanfic in a 'verse to prove that they were up to the task of being hired. (Or being asked to produce already-written fanfic.) Or in case an IP was every acquired by their employer. For example: Disney writers had Star Wars fanfic on hand prior to the purchase.

Still, while Koobs is my personal fav, there are other excellent writers who could produce a strong DLC. I'd love to see Drew Karpyshyn back, for example. Heck, I'd love to see some of his dropped storylines make a comeback in a DLC. ME2 had quite a lot of hooks that just got ignored. Melinda Snodgrass, a ST: TNG author, has experience with organics/synthetics storytelling (she was the author of Measure of Man), and has already expressed interest in helping Bioware fix the ending. A DLC written by her would most likely be a strong, thought-provoking story. Perhaps a little lacking in the shooting department, but I'm sure Cerberus could randomly show up at some point. :P Would either of these two be more acceptable to you?

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Not at all excited about Mac coming back to write.

SUPER EXCITED about Patrick Weekes coming back to write.

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Reth Shepherd wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Reth Shepherd wrote...

xsdob wrote...

And who, pretell, would write for a bioware dlc, instead of the bioware writers?


Well, Koobismo has written a pretty amazing Mass Effect story so far. I'd love to see what he'd come up with for a story DLC! <3


Gee, I wonder why you would say that? It's not like your displaying anything big and colorful to show you would favor his work over anyone elses.

Anyway, I do not support the indoctrination theory, or the notion of a conventional victory, so I'm not too keen on having one of its most influenceal contributors involved in the dlc. Besides, he is essentially a fanfic writer, using other peoples works to springboard his own stuff.

Still, the guy meet courtney taylor, so he's pretty awesome.


Whether or not you happen to like the ideas he used as a base for his work, he's still a strong writer. He's gone to the trouble of going over his work with a fine-toothed comb to weed out errors, plot holes, and the like. He's portrayed the characters of others strongly, consistently, and most of all, believably; something that is far harder to do than with your own original characters. He's already proved that he can write a tight, emotional, and compelling story in the Mass Effect universe (though I grant the Marauder Shields story itself would be difficult to portray ingame, given that we are seeing through others' eyes than Shepard.) And so far the plot he's offered holds together very well. Besides, fanfic doesn't matter quite so badly in the gaming or television world. In fact, I've heard stories of writers being asked to write fanfic in a 'verse to prove that they were up to the task of being hired. (Or being asked to produce already-written fanfic.) Or in case an IP was every acquired by their employer. For example: Disney writers had Star Wars fanfic on hand prior to the purchase.

Still, while Koobs is my personal fav, there are other excellent writers who could produce a strong DLC. I'd love to see Drew Karpyshyn back, for example. Heck, I'd love to see some of his dropped storylines make a comeback in a DLC. ME2 had quite a lot of hooks that just got ignored. Melinda Snodgrass, a ST: TNG author, has experience with organics/synthetics storytelling (she was the author of Measure of Man), and has already expressed interest in helping Bioware fix the ending. A DLC written by her would most likely be a strong, thought-provoking story. Perhaps a little lacking in the shooting department, but I'm sure Cerberus could randomly show up at some point. :P Would either of these two be more acceptable to you?



I don't believe in outsourcing your dlc writting to another company, espically to someone whose reason for being brought up were they were critical of the original ending(ST:TNG writer) because if we're doing that, why not just hire joss wheadon and the entire writing cast for the dark knight and ST:TNG along with maybe George R. R. Martin, or maybe just hire the bsn since so many think they are good at writting for game and dlc content and their inflated egos make them viable substitutes for casey hudsons and mac walters.

Sorry, you hit a nerve, but I would not be okay with this. You can call me a drone if you want to, but I believe the moment you call in to hire writers from other series to work on your stuff for you, and only just for a dlc to make fans like you again, that it's all over and you deserve to be abandoned.

Because that's basically saying in the feild of writing that "**** it! we give up! We're going to cheat with our creations and we don't care who knows it."

Also, a conversation with parsini and a single planet do not make foreshadowing.

EDIT: Again, sorry. But you hit a very raw nerve with your post.

Modifié par xsdob, 06 décembre 2012 - 04:55 .


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I just want Harbinger back!

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xsdob wrote...

I don't believe in outsourcing your dlc writting to another company, espically to someone whose reason for being brought up were they were critical of the original ending(ST:TNG writer) because if we're doing that, why not just hire joss wheadon and the entire writing cast for the dark knight and ST:TNG along with maybe George R. R. Martin, or maybe just hire the bsn since so many think they are good at writting for game and dlc content and their inflated egos make them viable substitutes for casey hudsons and mac walters.

Sorry, you hit a nerve, but I would not be okay with this. You can call me a drone if you want to, but I believe the moment you call in to hire writers from other series to work on your stuff for you, and only just for a dlc to make fans like you again, that it's all over and you deserve to be abandoned.

Because that's basically saying in the feild of writing that "**** it! we give up! We're going to cheat with our creations and we don't care who knows it."

Also, a conversation with parsini and a single planet do not make foreshadowing.

EDIT: Again, sorry. But you hit a very raw nerve with your post.


Snipped earlier posts because the train was getting rather long.

George Martin, no. To my knowledge he only has experience with book writing, which does not equal game writing. It's a different medium, and requires a different handling of your material. I'm sure he would come up with a great story, but it would almost certainly need work to turn it into a playable DLC. Joss Whedon, the writing crew for Dark Knight, and the writing crew of ST: TNG have experience with a visual medium, at least. Whedon...you know, now I'm curious what kind of a story he'd come up with. He's proven he can write in a 'verse he didn't create, he handles characters well; he might produce a very fun DLC. Good call! As for Ms. Snodgrass, while I remember her name because she spoke up during the ending controversy, the fact remains that she's a good writer and has experience with one of the themes Mass Effect touches on. A Geth-, Edi-, or Reaper-based DLC would be right up her alley. The BSN is rowdy and many overestimate their writing ability, true, but we've also seen the months produce works of fiction at least on a par with the actual game. Bioware might do well to consider either hiring or borrowing from some of the more talented individuals. I'm actually surprised you wouldn't want to consider Drew (I am NOT going to try spelling his last name a second time!), as he WAS on the writing team for ME1 and ME2. (And if I recall rightly, was one of the creators of the 'verse.) Bringing him back wouldn't be that huge a stretch. True that a single conversation and one planet's mission (albeit a very prominent mission) aren't much for foreshadowing, but bear in mind that ME3 would have had much more invested in that storyline had they chosen to continue it. Even so, it's one planet's mission and very nearly one conversation's more foreshadowing more than the current ME3 ending had.

I do see your point about outsourcing, particularly for only a single DLC. But consider the ill will they've currently garnered. From both a financial standpoint AND a creative one, it might be worth it to let someone else handle it for one outing. If done well, it re-excites on-the-fence fans and helps cement current ones. Done excellently, and it helps quiet the current bad press/word of mouth and brings some currently-lost fans back to the table. From the creative standpoint, right now it has got to be stressful times to be a writer at Bioware. That kind of atmosphere kills creativity and leads to burnout. (Given that there were rumors and offhand comments about burnout even before ME3 released, the current situation has to be a killer!) Giving someone else the reins for an outing gives the original writers a mental vacation and brings in new ideas and viewpoints that help to break the mental 'rut' that it's all too easy to become trapped in. One exciting idea almost always leads to another, which leads to three more, and so forth. A fresh viewpoint might be the breath of fresh air they badly need.

Sorry about touching that nerve (that sounds WRONG!), but I don't believe bringing in a new face or two would be a killer any more than the ordinary everyday hiring of a new writer.

(And because I can't resist one final plug, many people at Bioware seem to be fans of Koobismo's work!)