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[garrusfan1]

Since when did bioware worry about controversy and compare mass effects edgy stuff then compare it to the witcher edgy stuff lets see who is worse. My point is who they don't need to worry about it since 2006 or so when there was that little thing about nudity in ME1 it has changed a lot

[Steelcan]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Steelcan who really gives a f*** about fox news they are the whiners. Also how is talking about eveloution not controversy.

. Evolution isn't controversial.

I live in the south and  while I am Christian and think eveloution is right up to a point the people who would freak out about that scene with ash they would go insane. When I was in high school people would literally tell the teacher this is wrong and teaching this is wrong and actually argue until the teacher sent them to the principals office. I am not one of them and thought they were insane but those are the people who would complain about that scene so yeah it is contreversial

. I live in SC.  Evolution is controversial in the American South and the MidWest.

[jijeebo]

Animositisomina wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

Animositisomina wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

Maybe then Morinth wouldn't have *cringe* died off-screen...

Morinth doesn't die off screen. She appears during Priority: Earth as a banshee. Blink and you'll miss it though, as there is no indication of recognition from Shepard... she just has a nameplate, nothing else. Instead of banshee, it says Morinth.

I consider getting banshee'd to be the same as dieing, and it happening off-screen is just the kick in the balls that accompanies the one e-mail she sends.

But it doesn't happen off-screen, YOU ACTUALLY SEE HER during Priority: Earth.

Yeah but she's already a banshee by that point, she gets caught and converted off screen, that's what I mean.

[garrusfan1]

Steelcan I live in NC you know what I am talking about though

[Kel Riever]

I would find it ironic if BioWare, who included same sex relationships in their game, got cold feet when it came to discussing people's potential belief in the afterlife.

[Animositisomina]

jijeebo wrote...

Yeah but she's already a banshee by that point, she gets caught and converted off screen, that's what I mean.

Ohh, my bad. Yeah, so even then we're left in the dark about her fate. As someone else mentioned, they do the same thing with Jack if you don't rescue her from Grissom Academy, but she becomes a phantom. The only way the player knows is because the nameplate says Jack instead. Pretty lame... they could've done so much more, but for whatever reason chose not to.

[Nerevar-as]

Steelcan wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Because BioWare doesn't want any controversy?

Endings?  Lol. 

. Yeah that worked out well.  But I meant religious controversy, that scene could have pissed off a lot of people.

Why? It explains nothing, whether you believe in afterlife or not it´s the same. Ash should ahve thought that if there´s something beyond death Shepard´s brain didn´t go there, so of course s/he would remember nothing.

[jijeebo]

Animositisomina wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

Yeah but she's already a banshee by that point, she gets caught and converted off screen, that's what I mean.

Ohh, my bad. Yeah, so even then we're left in the dark about her fate. As someone else mentioned, they do the same thing with Jack if you don't rescue her from Grissom Academy, but she becomes a phantom. The only way the player knows is because the nameplate says Jack instead. Pretty lame... they could've done so much more, but for whatever reason chose not to.

As much as I like ME3, the BIB is pretty much the best way to describe a lot of the game.

[garrusfan1]

Kel Riever wrote...

I would find it ironic if BioWare, who included same sex relationships in their game, got cold feet when it came to discussing people's potential belief in the afterlife.

This right here if they didn't want controversy they wouldn't have added this. I have no problem with it but this was the third or maybe second most contoversial thing about ME3 it goes the most controversial was the ending then either the day one dlc or the same sex relationships. Which by the way those were done well.

[JBPBRC]

Kel Riever wrote...

I would find it ironic if BioWare, who included same sex relationships in their game, got cold feet when it came to discussing people's potential belief in the afterlife.

Eh, their feet are still cold in the general romance scene department after that Fox News (hooray for "journalism") controversy back in the ME1 days. Dat ridiculous underwear...dat shower scene...ugh.

Modifié par JBPBRC, 05 décembre 2012 - 06:02 .

[JamieCOTC]

I hate like hell that they cut the Ash scene even if it were just for a romanced Shepard, but it is somewhat redundant as the same subject comes up on Cronos station. And I'm not sure it had so much to do w/ religious controversy as it did w/ retconning Shepard's "death". On Cronos station Shepard does not seem to realize that she was indeed brain dead. In the Genesis 2 Wii U comic Shepard was not "dead" at all. As for the Priority Earth cut content, I read that BW deemed it too expensive to produce. Take that w/ a grain of salt.

[TobiTobsen]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I wonder why anyone would object to Ashley asking Shepard that in the light on her beliefs. We all know she believes in an afterlife, so really, why did they cut it? It seems natural that she would ask, and it's a really good scene.

I'm an atheist, and I don't see anything in that dialogue my Shepard couldn't have said.

Did you miss the "omg Ashley is an religious nutjob!!!!11" phase on the BSN?
Many gamers seem to have a deep-rooted distaste for anything related to religion.

[ADLegend21]

spirosz wrote...

important stuff like http://www.gameranx....-mass-effect-3/ and Jack's cut content

and not cut Diana Allers out of the game? 

Because people still bash Allers when she's nothing but a positive influence on Shepard's cause. that's why.

[CrazyRah]

I've pretty much given up understanding why the heck stuff like this get cut and some stuff in the game stayed.. it's just not really possible to understand

[CroGamer002]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Because BioWare doesn't want any controversy?

Endings?  Lol. 

. Yeah that worked out well.  But I meant religious controversy, that scene could have pissed off a lot of people.

That's kinda what I was thinking too. 

So wait, Bioware is OK to ****** of lot's of homophobic bigots by introducing gays but it's a no-go for one character to go little religions, because some atheists might get annoyed?
WTF?!

[Binary_Helix 1]

Steelcan wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

I live in the south and  while I am Christian and think eveloution is right up to a point the people who would freak out about that scene with ash they would go insane. When I was in high school people would literally tell the teacher this is wrong and teaching this is wrong and actually argue until the teacher sent them to the principals office. I am not one of them and thought they were insane but those are the people who would complain about that scene so yeah it is contreversial

. I live in SC.  Evolution is controversial in the American South and the MidWest.

I've seen tattooed lesbian feminists get irate if you tell them God isn't real. Even the biggest hoes I know claim to be religious.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 05 décembre 2012 - 06:28 .

[L2 Sentinel]

As an atheist myself, I don't have a problem with Ashley's scene. It's very inconclusive, either way. I am left wondering how one can still believe in God after everything we've learned in the trilogy. What kind of god let's his children be harvested? Is the reaper cycle part of His design? But the player isn't forced to take a position on this issue. He's just being respectful of Ashley's beliefs. It works for me.

In any case, I'm too big of a Kaidan fan to ever see that scene, so I'm all for it. I really would have liked that Jack scene, though. I hated her at first, but ME3 did wonders for my opinion of her.

[ADLegend21]

serious answer though, bioware cuts the best stuff from all the games. There was an option to save both Ashley and Kaidan on Virmire in a new game plus but they cut it because the figured no one would have them dead, little did they know how much people hate them because they aren't aliens.

[Han Shot First]

spirosz wrote...

It's seriously baffles me, I don't remember if the Anderson dialogue was confirmed, the one about Shep being a good father or whatever, before Anderson passes. I heard you have to stay single throughout the series, but I haven't seen it confirmed. Sad, sad stuff.

I guess they had other priorities instead of wanting to develop their characters well.

The Anderson dialogue was likely cut because it contained lore errors. In Anderson's cut dialogue he tells Shepard that his great regret is not having had a family, but that is incorrect. In LotSB it is revealed that Anderson has a son with his ex-wife Cynthia.

Still, its a shame they didn't bring back Keith David to redo those lines while they were making the Extended Cut. They could have altered the line where he talks about his own family to state that he regrets that he lost his family, not that he never had one.

[garrusfan1]

Binary helix yeah but my point is the people who would freak about that scene would freak about eveloution stuff as well and I don't get how anyone would freak about that scene

[Fedi.St]

clearly EA rushed things.

[SpamBot2000]

I find the portrayal of the deity as an omnicidal idiot holo-child pretty offensive.

Modifié par SpamBot2000, 05 décembre 2012 - 08:30 .

[Link Ashland 614]

Wait a minute, is that actually in the game files? Because if it was, I'd seen a video with them by now. The Jack one yeah, heard it, but Ash's have not seen or heard at all.

[garrusfan1]

Link Ashland 614 wrote...

Wait a minute, is that actually in the game files? Because if it was, I'd seen a video with them by now. The Jack one yeah, heard it, but Ash's have not seen or heard at all.

It was written but it wasn't added in 

[Fur28]

Steelcan wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Because BioWare doesn't want any controversy?

Endings?  Lol. 

. Yeah that worked out well.  But I meant religious controversy, that scene could have pissed off a lot of people.

I´m catholic and i believe that scene was brilliant, and also shepard does not mention what´s after death