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[Mathias]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Should've guessed everyone here would say they got payed off.

When someone doesn't agree with someone elses opinion like some people here it makes me sick, if you don't like ME 3 that's fine and in your GOTY's that would matter but on IGN's ship we entertain their preferences.
And I don't think it should have been nominated, I like ME 3 but there were too many other games I think desevered GOTY instead of ME 3, still a very enjoyable game IMO.

I think most people don't understand the concept when they say "they got paid off", however they're not too far from the truth either.

[Mcfly616]

IsaacShep wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

I agree with you on that. I appreciate the Academy giving recognition to independent films. But there's also a lot wrong. Leonardo Dicaprio has been nominated for 3 or 4 Best Actor Oscars in the past decade. He definitely deserved it the year that Forrest Whitaker won for playing that Ethiopian dictator(Whitaker wasn't even the protagonist of the film lol....but it was great performance none the less)

The biggest robbery I've ever seen on they Oscars? Well, that has to be the Academy awarding the Best Actress Oscar to Halle Berry in Monsters Ball(for completely obvious political reasons), instead of giving it to Nicole Kidman for her impeccable performance in Moulin Rouge. Though, the academy awarded it to her the next year to make up for their gaff the year before....even though she wasn't even the main character of The Hours(the movie she won the award for)

Nah, Kidman can totally do without an Oscar for Moulin Rouge, it was a great performance but let's not get crazy. And if Berry got her Oscar due to political reasons, well, not a single black actress got Best Actress before her exactly because political reasons so it doesn't even compare. In the end it helped, broke the barries, black actresses are being nominated and win a lot more now and for fully deserved performances so I don't see a problem.

yes, it broke down barriers. It's a good thing for sure. But that's exactly what I'm saying. Someone who didnt deserve the award, won it and therefore broke down barriers. An injustice occurred so that justice can take place in the future. Completely political. Just as Renee Zelwegger was snubbed for best supporting actress, and the next year they gave it to her because they realized their mistake the year prior. Which is why Renee said in her acceptance speech: "they got it right this time" (paraphrasing obviously). The academy has made it a point to give awards to people in order to make up for snubbing them the year prior

[shepskisaac]

Mcfly616 wrote...

yes, it broke down barriers. It's a good thing for sure. But that's exactly what I'm saying. Someone who didnt deserve the award, won it and therefore broke down barriers. An injustice occurred so that justice can take place in the future. Completely political. Just as Renee Zelwegger was snubbed for best supporting actress, and the next year they gave it to her because they realized their mistake the year prior. Which is why Renee said in her acceptance speech: "they got it right this time" (paraphrasing obviously). The academy has made it a point to give awards to people in order to make up for snubbing them the year prior

Yup. Streep won last year mostly because of all the past nominations they didn't reward even though Viola Davis gave stronger performance. But it's the Oscars like that every year lol, if the actor/actress is good, in the end the Academy will sooner or later recognize it most of the time.

[Peranor]

I guess I'll just wait for my paycheck from EA before handing out the perfect scores. Is $1000 for a 9/10 too much to ask for?

[Deemz]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Should've guessed everyone here would say they got payed off.

When someone doesn't agree with someone elses opinion like some people here it makes me sick, if you don't like ME 3 that's fine and in your GOTY's that would matter but on IGN's ship we entertain their preferences.
And I don't think it should have been nominated, I like ME 3 but there were too many other games I think desevered GOTY instead of ME 3, still a very enjoyable game IMO.

I think the problem that a lot of people have with this GOTY nomination is not IF ME3 deserved it. I think it is because the nomination comes from a website that had one of their staff in the actual game. Not only was this person in the game, they did a horrible job. And that the only claim to fame this staff member had prior to the game being released was licking a PSP.

[Deemz]

anorling wrote...

I guess I'll just wait for my paycheck from EA before handing out the perfect scores. Is $1000 for a 9/10 too much to ask for?

Think it only works out that way if there is footage of you licking a PSP.

[javeart]

I care abolsutely nothing for this kind of awards (not for games, not for movies, not for books) but, I have to say that despite all of its flaws, including that (for me) horrible ending, ME3 is still my favourite game of the year.

maybe it's just because I'm a masseffect-holic and I need therapy, who knows

Modifié par javeart, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:32 .

[Iakus]

Alex Arterius wrote...

What's everyones thoughts in regards to this?

Deserving or non deserving?

And in other news:  water is wet and the sky is blue 

[felipejiraya]

Why people care so much what a games site says is beyond me.

Hell, it's a GOTY if you think it is and not because some critic says so.

[Vigil_N7]

The answer to whether or not Mass Effect 3 deserved it is simple.

Would you agree that ME2 deserved Game of The Year?

If yes, then why the hell wouldn't ME3 deserve it as well? Excluding the final five minutes, Mass Effect 3 was a brilliant game and an improvement overall on Mass Effect 2. The combat was better, the customization was better, the story overall was better, the enemies were better, the graphical style was better, the journal for some god-forsaken reason was made worse, and I'd argue that the side missions were done better as well, as opposed to the fetch quests.

But overall, ME3 made improvements on ME2 that makes it deserving of a game of the year award. The ending infuriated many, me included originally, but looking at it from a game perspective you can not argue that it isnt one of the best games of the year.

Modifié par Vigil_N7, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:31 .

[Twinzam.V]

Deemz wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Should've guessed everyone here would say they got payed off.

When someone doesn't agree with someone elses opinion like some people here it makes me sick, if you don't like ME 3 that's fine and in your GOTY's that would matter but on IGN's ship we entertain their preferences.
And I don't think it should have been nominated, I like ME 3 but there were too many other games I think desevered GOTY instead of ME 3, still a very enjoyable game IMO.

I think the problem that a lot of people have with this GOTY nomination is not IF ME3 deserved it. I think it is because the nomination comes from a website that had one of their staff in the actual game. Not only was this person in the game, they did a horrible job. And that the only claim to fame this staff member had prior to the game being released was licking a PSP.

A game reviewer website, reviews a game that has one of their staff in it, gives it highly positive notes and defends the same company that published that same game and in the end gives it a GOTY nomination...
Seems legit to me. 

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:32 .

[AlanC9]

Mcfly616 wrote...
I didn't say "silent = bad"....but let's be real, it shouldn't have won. It was dofferent amd artsy, so they gave it to them.

Well, what you said was " a silent movie wins Film of the Year in 2012? What a joke." You didn't say "a different and artsy film wins Film of the Year in 2012? What a joke."

And why shouldn't a different and artsy film win? I would have voted for either Midnight in Paris or The Descendants myself... of course, Midnight in Paris is also kinda different and artsy. But there's nothing wrong with The Artist winning.

As for Monster's Ball, I thought she won for doing that sex scene with Billy Bob Thornton. 

Modifié par AlanC9, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:35 .

[Suspire]

I want the ME3 Vigil_N7 played. I just can't find it...

[Mcfly616]

IsaacShep wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

yes, it broke down barriers. It's a good thing for sure. But that's exactly what I'm saying. Someone who didnt deserve the award, won it and therefore broke down barriers. An injustice occurred so that justice can take place in the future. Completely political. Just as Renee Zelwegger was snubbed for best supporting actress, and the next year they gave it to her because they realized their mistake the year prior. Which is why Renee said in her acceptance speech: "they got it right this time" (paraphrasing obviously). The academy has made it a point to give awards to people in order to make up for snubbing them the year prior

Yup. Streep won last year mostly because of all the past nominations they didn't reward even though Viola Davis gave stronger performance. But it's the Oscars like that every year lol, if the actor/actress is good, in the end the Academy will sooner or later recognize it most of the time.

Streep? She has like a whole cabinet full of Oscars.....Was that sarcasm Isaac?? Lol I didnt say it happens in every single category, obviously. Bit, it does happen at some point in the awards every year. People win when they deserve it ofcourse. But its hardly all the time. There's obvious snubs every year.

[Mcfly616]

AlanC9 wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...
I didn't say "silent = bad"....but let's be real, it shouldn't have won. It was dofferent amd artsy, so they gave it to them.

As for Monster's Ball, I thought she won for doing that sex scene with Billy Bob Thornton. 

Yeah, that's a big part of it. I didn't wanna be too blunt and put it like that. But I'll just say that we share the same viewpoint on the matter

[Vigil_N7]

Suspire wrote...

I want the ME3 Vigil_N7 played. I just can't find it...

Mass Effect 2 had the suicide mission, the high point of the series and the best mission/hour in the entire series. Comparitively, the ending of Mass Effect 3 was a big dissapointment, and most people on here care about narrative way more than gameplay. 

I do too, but there's no denying that regardless of narrative (which ME3 was solid with up until the last five minutes) , ME3 was a technically superior game to ME2. 

[Peranor]

I'll just say what I said in the other thread.

Whether you liked the game or not it brought nothing new to the table more then a controversial ending. And even that has been done before.

The combat mechanics had some improvements over the previous installements in the series. But it's not like they outshine everything else in the industry.  Or indtroduced something new.

Same with character development in terms of talents and equipment. It's may better then at least ME2, but really nothing revolutionary.

Ignoring the ending controvercy. When it comes to storytelling as a RPG experience some may even say it got worse due to the increased amount of auto dialogue. But even if you for some reason enjoy auto dialogue it's not like it "raises the bar" and revolutionise storytelling in any shape or form.

And I think a game awarded game of the year needs to bring something new.
For example I got far more hours of enjoyment out of Borderlands 2 then I ever got out of ME3. But I still wouldn't vote Borderlands 2 as GOTY.

ME3 is not a bad game per se. But it still was a huge disappointment, it could have been so much more. I got far far more enjoyment out of ME1 and 2. So it doesn't feel right putting my vote on ME3 either. Even if it was better then many other games released this year.
As I said, I think a game awarded game of the year needs to bring something new.

I honestly don't know which game my GOTY 2012 vote would go to.  Not sure any game deserves it this year. 
In the end I guess I'm just glad that at least CoD didn't win.

But lets just say it like this. No matter how hugely dissatisfied I was with the pretentious and contrived ending of Mass Effect 3 I still want Bioware to continue making games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age (just with better endings). And maybe this award is a incentive for them to continue making games and continue to exceed themselves.

Modifié par anorling, 05 décembre 2012 - 11:46 .

[Suspire]

Vigil_N7 wrote...

Suspire wrote...

I want the ME3 Vigil_N7 played. I just can't find it...

Mass Effect 2 had the suicide mission, the high point of the series and the best mission/hour in the entire series. Comparitively, the ending of Mass Effect 3 was a big dissapointment, and most people on here care about narrative way more than gameplay. 

I do too, but there's no denying that regardless of narrative (which ME3 was solid with up until the last five minutes) , ME3 was a technically superior game to ME2. 

Methinks you haven't been reading gamer reviews to think people believe the ending is the only or even the biggest problem...

[Animositisomina]

iakus wrote...

Alex Arterius wrote...

What's everyones thoughts in regards to this?

Deserving or non deserving?

And in other news:  water is wet and the sky is blue 

The sky isn't really blue. It only appears that way because that's the name we've given that color.

[Hathur]

Animositisomina wrote...

iakus wrote...

Alex Arterius wrote...

What's everyones thoughts in regards to this?

Deserving or non deserving?

And in other news:  water is wet and the sky is blue 

The sky isn't really blue. It only appears that way because that's the name we've given that color.

Erm, not quite  http://spaceplace.nasa.gov/blue-sky/

This was taught to me some 16+ years ago in high school, grade 10 physics .. not common knowledge?

Modifié par Hathur, 06 décembre 2012 - 12:00 .

[tamperous]

I don't know which surprised me more this or that Lindsay Lohan is having trouble wih the the law and perhaps never really was rid of that drug and alcohol problem.

[Mcfly616]

Vigil_N7 wrote...

Suspire wrote...

I want the ME3 Vigil_N7 played. I just can't find it...

Mass Effect 2 had the suicide mission, the high point of the series and the best mission/hour in the entire series. Comparitively, the ending of Mass Effect 3 was a big dissapointment, and most people on here care about narrative way more than gameplay. 

I do too, but there's no denying that regardless of narrative (which ME3 was solid with up until the last five minutes) , ME3 was a technically superior game to ME2. 

I love the entire series. Each game has its highs and lows. But, I actually like ME3's narrative far more than ME2's. I was disappointed beginning in the first two hours of ME2. With a lot of the things they removed since ME1, and the plot is just a weird turn. Basically, whereas people just started figuring this out after ME3, I knew back in 2010 that ME2 was literally a glorified side-story and a stall for the overall narrative. It was a "bridge" of a game. I liked the Suicide Mission. And interrogating that guy and telling him I'd cut his balls off and sell them to a krogan.

On the other hand, halfway through ME3 I was completely enthralled and convinced that all my high expectations had been met. And then the original endings. Needless to say I hated them(I'm satisfied with the EC though). It's quite obvious many people use their hate for the ending as an excuse to nitpick the hell outta the game. If we wanted to do that, I could rip ME2 to shreds far worse. But I love the series. So I don't. It's just funny when I see people trying to say how the game is awful, when their opinion is so clearly biased because of their feelings on the last 5 minutes.

There was a time when everybody was like: "how could they ruin such a great game in the last ten minutes? It's was 99% amazing! But that last 1%....".

Now its just turned into something far more ridiculous

[spirosz]

BSN goes at it again, hilarious.

[malakim2099]

 Doesn't deserve GOTY. I'm sorry, but ME3 had an utter fail of an ending, extending cut or not... and that just kicks it out of the running. 
Wish it were otherwise, I really do. Just my opinion, and I'm sure IGN will give it to whoever greases the wheels the most deserves it.

[Binary_Helix 1]

Vigil_N7 wrote...

The answer to whether or not Mass Effect 3 deserved it is simple.

Would you agree that ME2 deserved Game of The Year?

If yes, then why the hell wouldn't ME3 deserve it as well? Excluding the final five minutes, Mass Effect 3 was a brilliant game and an improvement overall on Mass Effect 2. The combat was better, the customization was better, the story overall was better, the enemies were better, the graphical style was better, the journal for some god-forsaken reason was made worse, and I'd argue that the side missions were done better as well, as opposed to the fetch quests.

But overall, ME3 made improvements on ME2 that makes it deserving of a game of the year award. The ending infuriated many, me included originally, but looking at it from a game perspective you can not argue that it isnt one of the best games of the year.

Not everyone agrees that ME3 was better. The combat felt like it went backward in difficulty (enemies are push overs unlike before)and realism was lacking as well (space ninjas lol wut). The customization actually diminished the game's rpg value by underming the class system in favor of action. Style wise ME3 seems cartoonish to me just look at the enemy defense bars for example. If you feel ME3 deserves GOTY that's fine but not everyone necessarily agrees ME3 was an improvement.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 06 décembre 2012 - 12:08 .