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[Arisugawa]

Remanentmoss01 wrote...

 I just want my Collossus armour back, it took me ages to get it

Every color scheme I create in ME2 and ME3 for my FemShep is a sad attempt to recreate the medium or light Colossus X armor.

GIVE IT BACK TO US!

[Arisugawa]

Aeowyn wrote...

Arisugawa wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Arisugawa wrote...

Female Shepard and Ashley Williams both do not do wear heels with their armor, and likely, it is because both women military enough to know how disadvantageous this would be. Kasumi Goto, our nimble gymnast thief, understands this and does not cripple her dexterity.

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Actually, in ME3 they do wear heels with their armour.

Hmm...in the images I have they are not...

EDIT: Grrrr....Ashley's boots have elevated platforms. Only slightly better than heels. She should know better.

In this image, the heel isn't that much more than a standard military combat boot is today. Certainly nothing like Samara or Miranda.

[J4N3_M3]

Femshep ME3 armor

Modifié par J4N3_M3, 06 décembre 2012 - 01:04 .

[Aeowyn]

Arisugawa wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Arisugawa wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Arisugawa wrote...

Female Shepard and Ashley Williams both do not do wear heels with their armor, and likely, it is because both women military enough to know how disadvantageous this would be. Kasumi Goto, our nimble gymnast thief, understands this and does not cripple her dexterity.

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Actually, in ME3 they do wear heels with their armour.

Hmm...in the images I have they are not...

EDIT: Grrrr....Ashley's boots have elevated platforms. Only slightly better than heels. She should know better.

In this image, the heel isn't that much more than a standard military combat boot is today. Certainly nothing like Samara or Miranda.

Fair enough, but it's existance is still enough to annoy me. It doesn't exactly look like it's good or safe to run in.

[J4N3_M3]

compare this to maleShep



you can see that the shape of the heel is indeed different. For FemShep it is much more narrow giving it the look of a heel. also making it much more instable to walk on. just saying.

[J4N3_M3]

in Ashley's case, her default outfit is even worse.



not to mention that this outfit is supposed to look as if she is wearing suspenders.

[David7204]

I'm guessing I'm the only male here.

[Thrazesul]

LanceSolous13 wrote...

krukow wrote...

thehomeworld wrote...
Does BW make you feel like they're catering more to the male players

Femshep has 3 lesbian romances that go to the end of the game (Kelly, Traynor, Liara)
She has 2 potential straight romances that go to the end of the game (Garrus and Kaiden), one of whom is bi, one of whom can't be romanced without an import.

BIOWARE.
HATES.
WOMEN.

Don't forget two straight Romances which are axed; one of which caters to racial sterotypes.

Also, those two straight romances won't appear in every ME3 playthrough.

Garrus needs to be started in ME2. Kaidan can die in ME1.

This.

I'll refrain from saying what I really think about this, cause it'd probably get me banned. But I'm extremly disappointed in Bioware for what happened in ME3 and how they treat female gamers. The only redeeming thing in ME3 with this issue, is Garrus' romance. Which I am very surprised was bothered with at all.

[EnvyTB075]

Personally i'd have liked to have seen less "models" and more "soldiers", i can't imagine Shepard being her and having biceps the size of a mouse.

But i'd have to agree, i must be the only man who doesn't get instant boners on the Normandy. Its too unbelievable, and the way Sheps boobs grew dramatically in each game was a turn off, as it was obvious why it was being done.

I mean you could explain it away in ME2, but not ME3.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 06 décembre 2012 - 02:55 .

[SinerAthin]

Sheperd's chest grew?
I've yet to notice it, it's always hidden under the gear.

And to be frank, I can't see where you get the idea that femShep is sexualized.
She got fish curves, poor girl :/

Aside from Mirande, I never noticed any kinky stuff in Mass Effect (ignoring Omega).
What I did notice however is that there are no fat people in the future, not even slightly floppy.

Modifié par SinerAthin, 06 décembre 2012 - 04:22 .

[FlyingSquirrel]

Nicottia wrote...

I'm a female player and tbh I don't care about "sexualization" of women in ME series. All I care about is that it should be realistic. I don't care what they wear ON the Normandy, they all could even run naked for all I care... but in combat, how the heck are they supposed to survive?

Take a good sniper and Miranda, Jack and Samara are dead.

Kasumi too. Though, this doesn't seem entirely gender-specific in ME2, since Thane and Mordin never wear armor either. I guess we're just supposed to assume that they have very strong shields or biotic barriers, but BW should have just created separate combat and non-combat appearances like they did in ME1 and ME3.

[GreyLycanTrope]

David7204 wrote...

The first and third definitely are. I can read the dialogue. The second one's a bit small, but it sure looks like it.

Second one is from the post loyalty mission convo, so yeah wrong on that count and wrong on there only being one shot. I remember a few more I just don't feel like looking through a bunch of ass shots at the moment.

David7204 wrote...

I'm guessing I'm the only male here.

Again no.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 06 décembre 2012 - 05:16 .

[o Ventus]

@Grey (on iPhone, can't effectively quote with images), those 3 shots are the only shots that deliberately put Miranda's ass in the center. Eve though 3 is far too excessive, it isn't as if the camera props up her ass every 4 seconds. Every other shot besides those for the loyalty mission is incidental, her ass only comes into view if she's selected for the squad lineup.

Modifié par o Ventus, 06 décembre 2012 - 05:14 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

o Ventus wrote...

@Grey (on iPhone, can't effectively quote with images), those 3 shots are the only shots that deliberately put Miranda's ass in the center. Eve though 3 is far too excessive, it isn't as if the camera props up her ass every 4 seconds. Every other shot besides those for the loyalty mission is incidental, her ass only comes into view if she's selected for the squad lineup.

Some are indeed happenstance, but it's more than just these three that were delibarate I'd say.

[DDG4005]

Arcian wrote...

In my cycle, women were expected to be properly equipped for combat. If they were not, we threw them and their quartermasters out the airlock.

Good one

[CptSketch13]

The Spamming Troll wrote...

id say make em sexier.

*Crude comment removed*.

+1

Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 08 décembre 2012 - 03:26 .

[Arkevilex]

Femshep should have looked look like a gymnast. Not an anorexic Russian model.

I dont care about the LI's as I only romance Liara, Kelly, and the occasional Garrus. But mostly Liara.

I'm just grateful I didn't have to suffer through 20+ more hours of Miranda's butt. Though EDI's camel-toe was a bit disturbing...

[whitzend]

Bioware made up of mostly males. Males are clueless when it comes to females

[AkodoRyu]

Current games, probably all AAA games are IMHO directed mostly to the everlasting white straight male (not mean as offense, gentlemen). So was ME2/3, probably 1 too, but 1 was made with fresh ideas in mind. When devs are making games, "male gamer" is being probably considered by default, then other options. So yes, I think characters were unnecessarily sexualized, especially Ashley, though her outfit looks practical in some places, it's "takes on colors" in few others, wedges, elevated large chest, highlighted buttcheeks similar to Miranda's. Those things could be done simpler and still look good. Just like EDI. Just like Eva. Just like Samara. Just like Miri. When I judge these elements, I'm usually trying to remember that as long as it fits the story, it's fine (Jack) - but here, barely anything has to do with the story. Miranda's buttshots were too much. Maybe she's perfect and maybe she uses her sex appeal for her own gain, but please build her butt proportionally first and get rid of cameltoes. Latex suits in space - oh ffs. Samara - seems against her nature and the cold, practical actions. Liara looked way more practical in her coat.

Besides, these characters seem blind to what they wear, with - again - exception of Jack, who knows every inch on her body and even tells us about it.
Ashley's alt armor redeems designers choices just for a little while - FA armor makes her another space ninja stereotype.

Yeah, so I can appreciate a nice design - and the fact of me being a woman has nothing to do with it - but ffs, these things could be easily designed in ME1's spirit, and look not only practical, but more "friendly" to old fans of the series. But yep, who cares about old fans, customers of other kinds, since WSM stands strong as a potential buyer.


@ Shep's boobs:

In FemShep's growing chest case, it was never overboard - rather stupid looking (in case of the uniform I present on second screenshot below - material is oddly inadequate to the shape of it), the rest seemed fine, except for the dress, which, well, had nipples accented for some reason - cold?), also, many people expected a soldier to have a bit more stereotypical soldiery figure - and that's what would logic suggest to anyone. In ME1 a "base" (naked) mesh was a barely detailed, more mannequin than a body, which evolved into something strangely... domestic in ME3. Those are hips I would be jealous of, while the rest looks like barely touched by effort. I can't quite put my finger on it, except for that technically these arms bend horribly, thus I call them noodlearms, with sometimes completely broken fingers, while this outfit has quite nicely formed forearms and palms.

Tiny arms, palms and fingers were the aestethic choice devs made, and sticked to it over the series, because you rarely touchup or change something that is already "good". Parts of meshes are cut, used and reused with almost no changes to them. Plus note that game has only one skeleton for human males and only one for human males, with an exception of a certain child... Everything has to be built around this rig, which probably leads to some limitations, also considering how long ME3 was in development, I'm thinking some decisions could be done in a "looks good? okay, leave it, let's move to this other important thing" way.

I don't wanna touch makeup - and this is a matter of preference, my Shep wears makeup, because CC gives me no better options. I wanted pale lips, but can't do that, so put pale lipstick on her. It;s one of these things I'm turning a blind eye to.

Modifié par AkodoRyu, 06 décembre 2012 - 05:52 .

[SilentK]

Hmm.. I really like the armor on FemShep in ME3. I have no problem with that.

Don't know if I remember it correctly but I think that the females have heels simply because they are a little bit shorter and this way males and females can use the same ... something when it comes to animations. If that's the case then it is ok in my book. Would actually be very happy if someone could answer that one =)

Nahh... the things that I don't like in the dress-departement is Miranda's costume + buttshots and Samara's exposed bossom. Almost forgot the Aller's dress, that one is on the do-not-want-list as well.

Then, we got Kaidan and Vega shirtless.... so I don't complain too much =)

However FemShep and Liara different armors were very nice. And Tali has some really good versions as well.

[xAmilli0n]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I care about plausibilty and dressing for the occasion.

*Exposed skin in space is ridiculous.
*Going into combat without at least some protection is ridiculous
*Walking around like on display when you're supposed to be inconspicuous is ridiculous.

This pretty much my stance.  Female characters can be dolled up on personal time, but on duty, they need to look professional (dress and hair).

Wear a uniform when on duty, wear armor into combat (exception for powerful biotics like Samara, Aria, and Jack.  Their barriers would be enough for most things), and wear a hard suit while in space.

Other times, they can look however they want.

EDIT: A note on FemSheps default armor.  Compared to MShep, it provides VERY little protection, expecially to the shoulder and arm region.  And then there is boob-armor thing in general.  Bugs the hell out of me, so I usually change it up.  Boots are also a bit annoying but I can let that pass since I don't have to look at it constantly.

Modifié par xAmilli0n, 06 décembre 2012 - 06:03 .

[Ciryx]

Tis a RL boot:



I dont think femshep is the biggest offender. Samara and Miranda on the other hand....

[RPGmom28]

I have to admit that it took a while for me to ever take Miranda on a mission where I was given options not to take her, because she came out in high heels and a rubber suit and announced that she was perfect, not to mention the fact that she put her rear end in the camera every conversation.

When she showed up for the first time, I gave a monumental eye roll. Don't get me started on EDI's new body. Cameltoes are ridiculous. I think Samara's outfit is laughable and unrealistic. Still, I like her. I also like Ashley, Tali, Femshep, and very much like Liara. As much as Samara and Miranda are dressed like party strippers, they are strong female characters in leadership/powerful roles. This is something that is sorely lacking in many video games. As a female gamer who has outright refused to buy most games where I can't play a female avatar, this stuff matters when I spend my money.

It has taken some time to get over the overtly sexual outfits of some female characters, but I still appreciate that in Bioware games I can be my own gender and that my character can romance male characters. I can get over the scantily clad women as long as they keep giving me attractive men.

[Patchwork]

There's a disconnect between female characterisation and their design. Miranda seems too practical to wear high heels into combat, Samara's outfit is better suited to her succubus daughter than a warrior monk, Ashley's character was thrown out the window just so they could sex her up. I could almost buy EDI's sexbot-ness if it had been treated as a joke she was in on.

There's something insidious about the set-up of the Mass Effect universe. The only female aliens regularly seen throughout the trilogy are blue stripper babes who can and will have sex with anything. Female turians are supposed to be as commonplace as their male counterparts but they're not and, excuse my cynicism, but I honestly believe the only reason for Nyreen is multiplayer sales. Then there's the female krogan and salarians rare for lore reasons but when seen they're both shrouded in burka style dresses. Difficult species to sex up so they threw a concealing robe on the male model.

[Wintermist]

I wasn't a big fan of the sexier outlook of it all. I prefer it more realistic instead. A female armour or clothing that custom fit didn't make much sense to me and always made it look weird in my eyes. I had to look past that though. But I would certainly have preferred a more realistic design.