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[space_midgit]

Boogielicious im sorry princes did I offend you and your inability to manage your money, I have supported my family on my income alone and with my partners income so dont whine about an inability to live on various incomes, seriously if you cant afford something don't buy it untill you can. Better yet spend that money on someone that can teach you to manage your money. Untill then wake up to yourself. Your position in life is your own doing.

[FieryDove]

T0paze wrote...

Well, as I said earlier in this thread, I'm not going to buy this expansion, at least not until the price drops to a reasonable level. And I also think that by pulling tricks like that EA and Bioware actually encourage piracy. Not that I particularly care - it's their own business, after all.
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Bah. People either will support gaming or be a criminal. If it was $29, $19 or even $9 many people will still moan. I have zero tolerance for pirates. There is no excuse no matter how you justify it.

That said since DA is the best game I have ever played and I will support it. I greatly enjoyed the stone prisoner which not only gave me a fav party members but two more locations to visit. Soldiers peak wasn't that big or long true, but the smith makes some really nice stuff including my fav armor and wardens shields. The storage alone is great (need more) hint. lol

[T0paze]

Well, let me just say that pirates are very unlikely to care about the tolerance or intolerance of game owners. Some, of course, can be deterred if they're always labeled as thieves or criminals, (just like a person who buys every DLC out there wouldn't probably like being referred to as an obedient sheep) but I wouldn't really count on that. Personally, I think such labels are nothing more than a propaganda tool, and the only difference between them is that the former are more likely to appear in the media, because media outlets are much more likely to be influenced by publishers, not by pirates.

But enough of that. I'm not saying, of course, that Bioware should provide this expansion for free (which is more than I could say about, e.g. Pinnacle Station, their recent DLC to Mass Effect, because I think it should be offered for free - and even then it would suck). I'm saying that, judging from its description, $40 is far too much for it, so I'm not gonna buy it at this price. Instead, I'm going to buy it later (maybe much later, depending on how soon the price drops) at a price that would seem reasonable to me. Actually, it would be very strange for me to buy this expansion for $40, considering the fact that I bought the original game (digital deluxe) for some $30.

Modifié par T0paze, 11 janvier 2010 - 04:45 .

[drkl0rd2000]

space_midgit wrote...

Boogielicious im sorry princes did I offend you and your inability to manage your money, I have supported my family on my income alone and with my partners income so dont whine about an inability to live on various incomes, seriously if you cant afford something don't buy it untill you can. Better yet spend that money on someone that can teach you to manage your money. Untill then wake up to yourself. Your position in life is your own doing.

Posts like this ladies and Gents are why topics like this just need locked. Pointless and a personal attack all rolled in one.

[SheffSteel]

I'm just happy to see that the ZOMG 15 hours idea is still alive despite having no source whatsoever. Good work, people. Keep it up.

Modifié par SheffSteel, 11 janvier 2010 - 04:13 .

[addiction21]

SheffSteel wrote...

I'm just happy to see that the ZOMG 15 hours idea is still alive despite having no source whatsoever. Good work, people. Keep it up.

What can I say mob mentality rules on the internet. Factual evidence provided from a offical source be damned!!!

[MerinTB]

SheffSteel wrote...

I'm just happy to see that the ZOMG 15 hours idea is still alive despite having no source whatsoever. Good work, people. Keep it up.

I'm "happy" as well to see the mentality that game prices have gone "up" while quality has gone "down" continues to dominate as well.

People pull crap out of where their heads are stuck.  All the time.

I've empirically proven the pricing and quality models are wrong, and numerous people have proven the 15 hours quote is baseless.

But you can't change the opinions of people who "know" the "truth" and won't listen to your "stupidity."

[heronice1]

EA store has it for $29.99 pc

Gamestop has it for $39.99 pc



What's the final verdict? digital vs retail box = 10 bucks more?? confused!

[Ryuukosusei]

is this 40$ USD, or CAD?

[addiction21]

sprybry wrote...

jeez, SheffSteel, addiction21, and MerinTB...you guys just short-circuited my sarcasmeter

Sorry. The news just gets worse. I am busy working on it at the moment so I apologize if I am not here every minute of every day responding to each and every question you have about the "issues" I just discovered.

Modifié par addiction21, 12 janvier 2010 - 03:16 .

[EvilIguana966]

The fifteen hour stat, if it turns out to be true, is extremely short for a $40 RPG. The fact is that other types of games, shooters especially, have a different standard in terms of length. There is a reason for this. It takes a lot more effort to create an hour of gameplay in a shooter than it does in an RPG. Players consume content much faster in shooters than they do in RPGs, experiencing a relatively short but highly intense game. It is wrong to defend the length of an RPG by comparing it favorably to the length of a shooter.

[Warrior Poet]

heronice1 wrote...

EA store has it for $29.99 pc
Gamestop has it for $39.99 pc

What's the final verdict? digital vs retail box = 10 bucks more?? confused!

If you choose "physical" under the delivery method at the EA store they ship the game to your door and the shipping is free (at least within the USA...not sure about other locations)!  No need to get the expansion as a digital download if you would rather not do so.

I pre-ordered the expansion and it was around $32.50 shipped (shipping is free but tax is still charged). I saved roughly $11 by buying it from the EA store, as opposed to doing so at Gamestop.

Modifié par Warrior Poet, 12 janvier 2010 - 03:52 .

[space_midgit]

ey just defending myself, as does everyone, despite the attitude of my reply there is still some pearls in there, regardless of their simplicity.

[Brenn86]

EA store just bumped it's price up to 39.99.

Screw this expansion. I was going to pick it up for 29.99 but I will wait. Not worth the extra ten bucks for a supposed 15 hours of playtime.  First it was IW putting their game up for 59.99 now EA bumping the price of an expansion as well?

Bioware should really talk to EA about pricing and being transparent about their pricing.

Modifié par Brenn86, 14 janvier 2010 - 07:49 .

[thegreateski]

$40 eh?



*sigh* I guess I'll be waiting to buy yet another game.

[Brenn86]

thegreateski wrote...

$40 eh?

*sigh* I guess I'll be waiting to buy yet another game.

Supreme Commander 2 comes out that month.
Alien vs Predator in february.
Slew of other games as well that are FULL games and NOT expansions.

Bioware, you're going to lose on this one.  The price point is not within reason here.  The overhead cost for this is far less than the original game as you're not developing an engine from scratch, you're using the one you already have.  Basically it's all scripting.

I just.....ugh.....between the lackluster current DLC for DA:O and the failed RtO releases putting a 40 dollar price tag on an expansion....not exactly endearing to your customer base.

However if you want to just ignore your more avid fans for those that just plop down the cash, forget about the people who made the game and then forget about the game in a month, be my guest. 

[Duranon]

id rather look at it like this...we are paying 5$ for what 30 mins on dlcs? so for 15 hours
150$....hmmmm or...39.99$ for 15 hrs...ill go with the overpriced xpac over the overpriced dlcs...to me that seems like saving 110$

also take into consideration you can spend 59.99$ on full version games which only last 5-10 hrs so is it really that big a deal over a 15 hr expansion...not really

Modifié par Duranon, 14 janvier 2010 - 08:40 .

[runab0ut]

Buy the expansion a month or two later, even yet wait till it goes to the bargain bin. You don't have to buy everything on release day, if you guys don't like the set SRP.

[TheMadCat]

Brenn86 wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

$40 eh?

*sigh* I guess I'll be waiting to buy yet another game.

Supreme Commander 2 comes out that month.
Alien vs Predator in february.
Slew of other games as well that are FULL games and NOT expansions.

Bioware, you're going to lose on this one.  The price point is not within reason here.  The overhead cost for this is far less than the original game as you're not developing an engine from scratch, you're using the one you already have.  Basically it's all scripting.

I just.....ugh.....between the lackluster current DLC for DA:O and the failed RtO releases putting a 40 dollar price tag on an expansion....not exactly endearing to your customer base.

However if you want to just ignore your more avid fans for those that just plop down the cash, forget about the people who made the game and then forget about the game in a month, be my guest. 

Wouldn't it be a good idea to maybe wait and get some actual information about the expansion before passing judgement on it's value and price.

[Zagaro]

$5 for an hour of fun which you can repeat over and over as many times as you want, or $1 for a chocolate bar that's going to last 2 minutes and 1 time only?



$40 for a 15 hour expansion seems like a good deal to me, especially for a game as awesome as DAO. You could get two boxes of pizza for $20(the good stuff, that is), and how long is that going to last? an hour? Great deal.



Imagine being able to pay $40 for a delicious meal to never disappear off your plate or go bad. You can eat it whenever you want, however long you want, any time you want. Sure you'll probably get bored of it eventually, but it will always be there for you to go back to.

[miltos33]

Although I still think that $40 is above average for an expansion I don't believe the 15 hour rumour any more. The devs recently confirmed in an IGN interview that the expansion raises the level cap from a theoretical 25 to an attainable 35. Unless they drastically change the xp system for the whole game I can't really see how a high level character can gain more than 10 levels in less than 15 hours.

[jsachun]

I think the value for money can only be assessed once we've had a chance to play it. And really the selling value of the game should be determined by the developer based on profit factor. Whether people will buy or not is purely a marketing exercise.

[1079036]

I agree that we should not complain until we have accurate information of the expansion.

Knowing that I paid 50 for the original, I do expect a LOT of content for 40 bucks.

I really don't care the amount of money or hour they spent on developing the expansion.

I'm a consumer not a producer, I can only speak my side of story.

And so far, with the information they released, I am not impressed.

Regarding the 15 hours gameplay, IF IT IS TRUE, then I will not purchase this expansion what so ever.