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[Awaitingdoom]

Darkest Dreamer wrote...

The price seems relatively reasonable to me.

I agree but I wont be getting it right away.  Im going to wait at least 2 weeks after its released to see if it needs patched.  If it does need patched I'll wait for the patch to be released and then get it... The game is great but I still havnt seen 1 patch for ps3 which is frustrating to say the least.  I really feel for the xbox'ers since they can totally loose their saved games.  Makes ps3 bugs look like nothing.

[Default137]

Awaitingdoom wrote...

Darkest Dreamer wrote...

The price seems relatively reasonable to me.

I agree but I wont be getting it right away.  Im going to wait at least 2 weeks after its released to see if it needs patched.  If it does need patched I'll wait for the patch to be released and then get it... The game is great but I still havnt seen 1 patch for ps3 which is frustrating to say the least.  I really feel for the xbox'ers since they can totally loose their saved games.  Makes ps3 bugs look like nothing.

Well, for the 360 versions of the game, Bioware has to get a patch past Microsoft, and if the patch gets to big, then the players will have to PAY for the patch, once they get it past Microsoft, they have to figure out a way to apply it to the 360 version without taking up to much space, as many 360 games only have a certain amount of space they can use, and if it exceeds that, it ends up costing both Bioware and the players money, which is bad. Obviously this means Bioware would have to think to the future, and figure in other DLC, as well as future patches.

I assume with the Ps3, the main problem is acually just getting the patch to work on the damn thing, according to most devs I know, developing for the Ps3 is like pulling teeth, and getting things to work on it is literally like smashing your head against a wall, which is why you usually see Ps3 patches last, once they figure that all out, they then need to get it past Sony, which takes quite a bit of time in and of itself as well.

With the PC, they just send us the .exe after making sure it works, and putting it through company tests >_>

[Wishpig]

forty bucks, christ, that's no expansion! Thats a full out game.



That is NOT a reasonable price no matter how you look at it. It's one hell of a rip-off. I got almost 80 hours out of my first play through. I'm thinking I'll top that in my current play through. The expansion isn't even 1/4 of the length of the first game! Frankly, I've never heard bioware underestimate the length it takes to beat a game, the more often greatly underestimate it. So I'm wondering if there will even BE 15 hours.



Look at all the other expansions out there, tell me bioware is putting FAR more work and effort and content in the awakening then other expansions on the market... and then I'll gladly pay $40. If their not, then lower the damn price!

[VanDraegon]

$40 is a reasonable price to pay for a Bioware product. Those of you screaming about it being a rip off can vote with your wallets. We shall see how effective that turns out to be.

[Birdieboink]

xCobalt wrote...

Definitely overpriced. Then again, sheeps, i mean people are paying $5 for only half an hour to an hour long dlc. They'll buy it simply because it has the word 'expansion' on it. I recall an article that was posted not long after the release which reported $1 million in dlc sales...Bioware/EA isn't stupid, if they can make $1 million from overpriced DLC, they'll more even more from overpriced expansion packs.

I think the only way I'll be getting it (or any dlc) is when they release a GOTY version.

I really hate how people always do things like calling others sheep when they buy DLC. I don't care what people think about its length; I'll be buying Return to Ostagar when it comes out simply because it's Bioware and they provided me with an excellent experience in Dragon Age. $5 isn't terribly overpriced, especially when you take things like voice acting into account.

That said, 15 hours of play sounds like $20-25 to me, and I'll likely buy it if it hits that price point.

[TheMadCat]

Wishpig wrote...

forty bucks, christ, that's no expansion! Thats a full out game.

That is NOT a reasonable price no matter how you look at it. It's one hell of a rip-off. I got almost 80 hours out of my first play through. I'm thinking I'll top that in my current play through. The expansion isn't even 1/4 of the length of the first game! Frankly, I've never heard bioware underestimate the length it takes to beat a game, the more often greatly underestimate it. So I'm wondering if there will even BE 15 hours.

Look at all the other expansions out there, tell me bioware is putting FAR more work and effort and content in the awakening then other expansions on the market... and then I'll gladly pay $40. If their not, then lower the damn price!

If you don't like the price wait a few months for it to drop, simple. No reason to get your panties in a bunch there.

[Abriael_CG]

Wishpig wrote...

forty bucks, christ, that's no expansion! Thats a full out game.

Not really. full games cost 60 dollars.

[omegadk1]

Ok... so many other, "Great games" were priced higher than this and had slightly higher or less play time... wether or not you want to agree or not is your short sightedness... Eg:



1. bioshock (20 hours)

2. Uncharted (8-10 hours)

3. Uncharted 2 (12-15 hours)

4. Batman Arkham As. (15 hours)



And the list goes on. All of you who complain have no idea what resources go into a game. People need to be paid, and yes, making money is one of those things companies tend to do... you know, for survival and developement of more games.



But, I waiste my time...

[Wishpig]

VanDraegon wrote...

$40 is a reasonable price to pay for a Bioware product. Those of you screaming about it being a rip off can vote with your wallets. We shall see how effective that turns out to be.

i'm a lucky bastard, I got the money to shell out (a rare thing in today's world.) Because I person can afford and will buy something doesn't mean their not getting ripped off.

Bioware's selling us an expansion pack for $40 dollars, where most expansion packs range from $15-30, $30 being on the high end and often seen as a negitive by fans and critics.

This is an expansion compare it to other expansions price wise and content wise.... it won't match up. All it takes is for one BIG game to set the new price standard... and BAMN. All expansion 40 bucks.

omegadk1 wrote...

Ok... so many other, "Great games" were
priced higher than this and had slightly higher or less play time...
wether or not you want to agree or not is your short sightedness... Eg:

1. bioshock (20 hours)
2. Uncharted (8-10 hours)
3. Uncharted 2 (12-15 hours)
4. Batman Arkham As. (15 hours)

And
the list goes on. All of you who complain have no idea what resources
go into a game. People need to be paid, and yes, making money is one of
those things companies tend to do... you know, for survival and
developement of more games.

But, I waiste my time...

See this is the problem, your comparing it to FULL games, this is an expansion at it's core. The games you listed were built on heavily modified engines or brand new ones. AN expansion is just an expansion of a game... not a whole new one.

Modifié par Wishpig, 06 janvier 2010 - 03:35 .

[TheMadCat]

This is an expansion compare it to other expansions price wise and content wise.... it won't match up. All it takes is for one BIG game to set the new price standard... and BAMN. All expansion 40 bucks.

You know quite a few expansions released lately and those that'll be released soon are tagged at $40? Like I said above if you look around you'll see the $40 price tag has actually become fairly common with PC expansions, both stand alones and addons.

[x S ii N x]

This discussion is pointless, Amaranthine and The Architect are far from here, The Darkspawn and The Blight are here and now.

Also, we need cookies, because the cake is a lie.

Seriously, the 'expansion' was just announced, we have no idea what they are going to do completely yet now do we? We presume they are saying what will happen. We also presumed we would have DLC earlier today, did that fan out? No, it did not. Either way you will either buy it, or not.

TheMadCat wrote...

You know quite a few expansions released lately and those that'll be released soon are tagged at $40? Like I said above if you look around you'll see the $40 price tag has actually become fairly common with PC expansions, both stand alones and addons.

Have you played the Sims? Less content in their expansions than this one has announced and it is about the same price...

Modifié par x S ii N x, 06 janvier 2010 - 04:00 .

[Wishpig]

TheMadCat wrote...

This is an expansion compare it to other expansions price wise and content wise.... it won't match up. All it takes is for one BIG game to set the new price standard... and BAMN. All expansion 40 bucks.

You know quite a few expansions released lately and those that'll be released soon are tagged at $40? Like I said above if you look around you'll see the $40 price tag has actually become fairly common with PC expansions, both stand alones and addons.

Well, I can understand it for MMO expansions, as those require a s*** load of work to create and can provide countless hours of gameplay, but other genres I just can't.

Less work goes into making an expansion (since your building off an existing engine which devs have already gotten the hang of), they don't tend to have nearly as much new elements as a strait out sequel SHOULD, and they don't normally provide nearly as much hours of gameplay.

In short they should cost a fraction of the orgional game not ALMOST as much. It's a rip-off plain and simple. But in the end it is all about making the $$$...

[x S ii N x]

Wishpig wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

This is an expansion compare it to other expansions price wise and content wise.... it won't match up. All it takes is for one BIG game to set the new price standard... and BAMN. All expansion 40 bucks.

You know quite a few expansions released lately and those that'll be released soon are tagged at $40? Like I said above if you look around you'll see the $40 price tag has actually become fairly common with PC expansions, both stand alones and addons.

Well, I can understand it for MMO expansions, as those require a s*** load of work to create and can provide countless hours of gameplay, but other genres I just can't.

Less work goes into making an expansion (since your building off an existing engine which devs have already gotten the hang of), they don't tend to have nearly as much new elements as a strait out sequel SHOULD, and they don't normally provide nearly as much hours of gameplay.

In short they should cost a fraction of the orgional game not ALMOST as much. It's a rip-off plain and simple. But in the end it is all about making the $$$...

Less work? lol They have voice acting in this game, and also, they have to still map everything out, script the events, and tweek balances. Make your own games or STFU...

[lisakover]

Day 1 Purchase, hell I'll preorder it from Play.com soon as I can

[MassEffect762]

Chump change to me.



I'll pick it up.

[Leon Zweihander]

     With the incredible amount of effort they've done creating this game $40 seems more than reasonable for an expansion.  I can't think of one rpg game in recent memory that's so fleshed out, so detailed and complex as Dragon Age from its lore to the voice acting and the well implemented combat system.  DLCs I definitely agree are expensive for such a small content, but judging from Bioware's past expansions The Awakening will be more than worth it.  What people seem to keep forgetting is that games nowadays takes a *lot* of money to produce, moreso for a company like Bioware that prides itself in making quality rpg games.  As an avid rpg fan, please support Bioware and buy the expansion to show them the rpg market is still going strong.  We have few well-made rpg games as it is, and I really, really need my fix.

Modifié par Leon Zweihander, 06 janvier 2010 - 04:17 .

[JKJEDIKNIGHT]

Either buy this and get 15 hours, or buy 2 new DVD's at Walmart and get maybe 4 hours. Seems reasonable to me. Obviously we could sit here and compare apples to oranges all day, either buy it and enjoy yourself, or stop griping and don't buy it. I'm sure Bioware and EA will do just fine in the long run from the people who don't have to "sell a child" or something equally drastic to come up with $40.

[Schneidend]

GvazElite wrote...

As for the ps3 comment, I don't own a ps3 (no games that interest me enough to buy a console that cant even play ps2 games)

And my 360 is for the most part, untouched save for when I rent a game.

The PS3 does play PS2 games. You just have to download some free compatability data. Also, they can play PS1 games without any download.


Anyway, on-topic, 39.99 is a fairly typical expansion price. If that's not agreeable, then don't buy it. Vote with your money, I say, as Bioware and EA don't really care what any of us type.

Modifié par Schneidend, 06 janvier 2010 - 04:33 .

[MerinTB]

Expansion pack prices:



Everquest II: Sentinels of Fate: $39.99

WoW: Wrath of the LichKing: $39.99

Ultima Online: Stygian Abyss: $39.99 (UO has been around since like 1997!)

Warhammer 40K - Dawn of War II: $29.99

WoW: Cataclysm: $39.99

Sims3 - World Adventures Pack: $39.99

Star Wars - The Force Unleashed Ultimate Sith Edition: $39.99 (this is basically 3 more levels tagged onto the existing game, and yes you get the original game, but what if you already own it?)



That's what I could find. I know that when games like Rise of Nations, Dawn of War, Total War, Age of Empires and the like put out expansions they are almost always at the lowest $19.99 and quite often $29.99 or even $39.99. The $39.99 is a newer thing, like the last couple years - but you know, prior to the current gen of consoles, console games were $49.99 not $59.99.

[Bryy_Miller]

xCobalt wrote...

Then again, sheeps, i mean people are paying $5 for only half an hour to an hour long dlc.

Oh do be quiet.

[Dragon Age1103]

bah!!

Modifié par Dragon Age1103, 06 janvier 2010 - 04:58 .

[TheMadCat]

Dragon Age1103 wrote...

I have made a thread to protest this price increase. If you wish to support me & voice your dislike for this price increase please post in my thread.

http://social.biowar...555017/1#555017

What the hell are you talking about? What price increase?

[Gvaz]

MerinTB wrote...

Expansion pack prices:

Everquest II: Sentinels of Fate: $39.99
WoW: Wrath of the LichKing: $39.99
Ultima Online: Stygian Abyss: $39.99 (UO has been around since like 1997!)
Warhammer 40K - Dawn of War II: $29.99
WoW: Cataclysm: $39.99
Sims3 - World Adventures Pack: $39.99
Star Wars - The Force Unleashed Ultimate Sith Edition: $39.99 (this is basically 3 more levels tagged onto the existing game, and yes you get the original game, but what if you already own it?)

That's what I could find. I know that when games like Rise of Nations, Dawn of War, Total War, Age of Empires and the like put out expansions they are almost always at the lowest $19.99 and quite often $29.99 or even $39.99. The $39.99 is a newer thing, like the last couple years - but you know, prior to the current gen of consoles, console games were $49.99 not $59.99.

All of those games sans maybe WAP have more than 15 hours of gameplay.

[Niten Ryu]

It's definately not worth it for that price but good thing there's Steam and it's mega sales from time to time. During the holiday season I bought many full games under 5€ - And that's great price for the most games as games are very short these days. I'd say 5-20€ is good price for the games in ths generation and Steam allow me to get games legally at that price. Often you don't even have to wait full year.

Movies haven't been worth the ticket since the first Terminator (was the last film before VHS in my family). Nowadays movies are worth even less the ticket price as home theaters are extremely common. If you don't have one, most likely one of your friends have one.

Modifié par Niten Ryu, 06 janvier 2010 - 05:51 .

[Volourn]

"forty bucks, christ, that's no expansion! Thats a full out game."



Thyat's funny since every BIO expansion I've bought has been MININUM of #30 if not upwards of $50 - I'm looking at YOU tob!



And, DAO cost me $70+. *shrug*







"where most expansion packs range from $15-30, $30 being on the high end and often seen as a negitive by fans and critics."



Not for any RPG expansion I've bought. SOZ and SOU happened to be the lowest IIRC and they come in at about $30ish. LMAO