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[Poison_Berrie]

soundfx wrote...

Its not Player VS Player, so why does the OP want a nerf?

Do you get your credits and extract?

1) OP is not asking for a nerf.
2) Not being PVP doesn't exclude balancing and despite what people like to think nerfing (or downgrading as nerfing often implies making something useless) is perfectly valid tool for that.
In the same way you don't change all vending machines because a few give out two products instead of one, you don't buff the entire game around the few things at the lonely top.

Modifié par Poison_Berrie, 07 décembre 2012 - 01:42 .

[randomfoo]

yurksaa wrote...

randomfoo wrote...

yurksaa wrote...
Why don't we report people like Fenekus who influence these outcries? He was clearly outscored on Bronze so he came here to express his rookie-level frustrations. I'm waiting for the day someone says Biotic Charge shouldn't replenish barriers.

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(I've just waded into this thread, but many of the people posting here on both sides of this discussion have played at least hundreds of hours if not more since the beta, so you'll have to do better if you're going to make convince anybody to take you seriously.)

It was a suggestion not an argument but ok. I don't know the people here and I don't care enough to worship certain members of the community.

Like you said, you don't know the people here, which answers your original question and does you no favors.

As for your second crack, well that's just plain passive aggressive. I don't want to derail this thread but I do feel that there's been an unfortunate trend of driveby posters who attack people for recognizing that this is in fact a community, and that you know what? There are members of good standing who *do* get more respect, or at least their posts taken more seriously because of that.  That's how communities work, in case you didn't know. You participate and are judged on that and you build a reputation, for good or ill.

Modifié par randomfoo, 07 décembre 2012 - 01:46 .

[Barge6000]

I want the dmg bonuses gOne and the cloaking improved. Wether that is a nerf or buff depends on the individual, if it werent for guns and powers being nerfed because infiltrators are awesome, I wouldn't care at all. Player nerfs are not really necessary, what % of pug games without a stand out guy to carry are succeeding?

[unclemonster]

mrs_anomaly wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

The majority of players on this game will never have the ability to use most if not all classes at a high level. Why take away their crutch? 

I never said I wanted BW to nerf Infiltrators again. I realize many people would be upset and would quit playing, which would be a terrible idea since the game is slowly dying. Besides, I'd rather have a semi-competent Infiltrator in my lobby than a useless Engineer.

What I did say was that the game would have been better off without infiltrators. Then it would have made sense. Engineers would have been the best tech users, Soldiers would have been about DPS, Krogans would have been the best melee characters, Sentinels would have been the toughest to kill, no unnecessary nerfs, maybe Sabotage would have a decent cooldown, a Turian Soldier wouldn't feel bad about how pathetic his proxy mines are compared to the GI/SI, etc ...

There's a difference.

So that wasn't you that had a thread titled "anyone else sick of Infiltrators"? You know as well as I do that a thread like that will only bring about cries for nerfs whether you directly want them or not.

Infiltrators don't feel any better at being a tech user IMO than an Engineer since ammo explosions are weaker than power explosions taken to the final evolution (if they are the same as Biotic Explosions) and Engineers don't force me to pick an ammo type that can do a tech explosion (meaning I can use drill, warp, ap, explosive). Krogans won't die from 2 shots after a melee the same way a GI will if he doesn't catch everything (survivability = greater than overall damage done, it helps no one if you are down the whole game). There are maybe two Infiltrators that are actually just as good of a tank as any Sentinel and that is the SI and TGI due to ED and Stim Packs with cloak, any other Infiltrator can go down pretty easily if you make a mistake where a Sentinel could take a bit more abuse. I won't disagree about the Soldiers and Sabotage, but we will never know with Sabotage since only one character had it until recently.

For the most part this forum has been tons of fun for me but this surge of Infiltrator nerf threads on BSN has definitely cooled my heels on my daily gaming relaxation time (I'm ~600 hrs since release) . ME3 is shelved for awhile. I don't know if I'll come back. It is just the fact that higher profile players can influence Bioware to make changes that overall make it harder for regular players to enjoy the game. I've seen a lot of elite veteran players around here claim that things should be in fact slanted for them becuase they are the dedicated- but the reality is that Bioware needs all the noobs to play along too and all of the Bronze to intermediate players to support the system, buy copies, and participate in ME3 also. Catering specifically to the most elite players will kill ME3 multiplayer before any other game franchise will. 

Very well written post and I totally agree. don't let other's opinions spoil your fun. We all get a little worked up on here at times (I am guilty myself). I usually try to stay positive as nothing is worse than a keyboard warrior. Yes, I agree, there is alot of ego around here and sometimes people act very selfish with what "they want done". It is all done without alot of thought. In the end, it is just a game and we should enjoy ourselves.