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[Kel Riever]

JeffZero wrote...

The article's ME3 mention is a positive one, heh.

Yes, Multiplayer is fun.  Certainly a lot more so than SP.  Well put!

[giftfish]

This is not a surprise, but nice to see that someone finally called them on it.

[shepskisaac]

Cashmoney007 wrote...

Bioware is the one that decided to sell their company to EA.  I personally do not think it has been working very well from what I have seen.  Bioware needs to find a way to buy back their company or go create a different company.  How can things be so great for the rest of Bioware when the founders of the company have left? 

Actually no, Bioware was already owned by Elevation Partners by then. EP sold them to EA

[Cashmoney007]

IsaacShep wrote...

Cashmoney007 wrote...

Bioware is the one that decided to sell their company to EA.  I personally do not think it has been working very well from what I have seen.  Bioware needs to find a way to buy back their company or go create a different company.  How can things be so great for the rest of Bioware when the founders of the company have left? 

Actually no, Bioware was already owned by Elevation Partners by then. EP sold them to EA

I did not know that.  I always read that Bioware was the one that sold their company for a lot of money.  I will go do more research on this.

Modifié par Cashmoney007, 06 décembre 2012 - 04:00 .

[FaWa]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Nothing in ME3 felt rushed.

LOL

[xWARx DEMON]

Collector's edition was a joke

[Bendigoe]

Going by this, once the ME4 release date is eventually revealed in the future then there should be an immediate mass petition by fans to release it at a later date.

Just to be sure 

[Grubas]

Bendigoe wrote...

Going by this, once the ME4 release date is eventually revealed in the future then there should be an immediate mass petition by fans to release it at a later date.

Just to be sure 

Not a bad idea. Im not ironic. 

[survivor_686]

Hmm...would have liked for him to have expanded with the sudden emphasis on full price games feeling as if content is left out.

But that's the story with any large organization. A certain culture will take root and it will be very difficult to buck it.

Basic strategy with big box games? Wait for a few months for a price drop then purchase. You'll have enough money left over to spend on the DLC.

[LinksOcarina]

I find it ironic he is discussing the artistic side of gaming while he worked in the EA Sports division, something that the artistic aspect of gaming will never fully see because of its role as a simulator.

[clarkusdarkus]

anorling wrote...

Legendary Chop Chop wrote...

i don't love EA, but they're doing things right with how successful they are. None of us here could properly run or manage a successful video game or media company.

Anything and everything is "rushed" now because of how people expect their goods now in our instant media age.

And yet defenders of EA/BIOWARE claim it is down to the minority who hate ME3 and it's travesty of a game/ending.........those minority entitled whiners really do have a voice it would seem if that were the case.......im sure FIFA/MADDEN fans love being signed out of the server and losing connection for no apparant reason.

[Robhuzz]

This isn't news but it's good that some former EA employee outright says it.

But it wasn't really necessary. Just look at DA2 and ME3, both clearly needed more dev time as neither were finished products by a long shot. But in both cases they did have the time to make day 1 dlc to squeeze a bit more money out of the customer. It's good to see where EA's priorities really lie.

[LinksOcarina]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

anorling wrote...

Legendary Chop Chop wrote...

i don't love EA, but they're doing things right with how successful they are. None of us here could properly run or manage a successful video game or media company.

Anything and everything is "rushed" now because of how people expect their goods now in our instant media age.

And yet defenders of EA/BIOWARE claim it is down to the minority who hate ME3 and it's travesty of a game/ending.........those minority entitled whiners really do have a voice it would seem if that were the case.......im sure FIFA/MADDEN fans love being signed out of the server and losing connection for no apparant reason.

So uh...what is the relevance of that chart? Is it profits or something, and does it have a source? 

[Zardoc]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Nothing in ME3 felt rushed.

Said nobody, ever.

[Dr_Extrem]

am i right, that ea released bioware from their mass effect contract, because it is fullfilled? 

bioware and ea have a more coorparative relationship and if bioware has again free rein on mass effect, it is possible, that we will see content, that was cut from the original game, due to the lack of time.

every company is profit-oriented - thats how they work. the question is, whether the harsh time tables do more damage, than they save money. the first is the answer.

many of the later missions feel very rushed - especially priority: earth and combat would have needed a lot more fine tuning (resistances to mez and other effects) and the n7 missions were poorly reused multiplayer maps.


the next dlc is something big - if there would only be party banter, seth green would not be involved in the vo and since the whole writing team is assambled, it is possible, that we will get another doese of mass effect.

hopefully, we get a complete addon - like "throne of bhaal" ... a mass effect 3.5 that will really end the journey. this time with style ...


on the other hand ... the next dlc could be about shooting more cerberus goons and we get more assets and a new gimmick for the cabin we cant use.

Modifié par Dr_Extrem, 06 décembre 2012 - 06:33 .

[Wintermist]

Every damn company does it for the money in the end. EA is no different from any other company. EA are in this industry because they love games too. EA knows that if they don't make games people like, they haven't got a business. So that pretty much tells you all that because they are still in business, they are giving people what they want.

So stop this stupid assault on EA every chance you get. Everyone seem to think it's EA that designs, develops and makes all the decisions. They are publishers, they can push and prod, but it's the developers that make the game.

Sometimes the developer and publisher is the same company, and even then they have money to care about. Do you think all these people working on the games you play actually do it for free and live on wellfare? Get a grip on reality, it's a capitalist world, and to get something done, it takes money, To get money they have to please. And to please they have to get you what you want. They're still around, so they're doing a good job at it.

Had they not delivered games people want, they'd be a dead company already. How hard is that to understand?!

[shepskisaac]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

am i right, that ea released bioware from their mass effect contract, because it is fullfilled?

What? There's no contract, EA owns Bioware and ME series. If EA executives demanded Shepard to transform into a pink elephant in ME4, Bioware would have to do it.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 06 décembre 2012 - 06:34 .

[Atakuma]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

anorling wrote...

Legendary Chop Chop wrote...

i don't love EA, but they're doing things right with how successful they are. None of us here could properly run or manage a successful video game or media company.

Anything and everything is "rushed" now because of how people expect their goods now in our instant media age.

And yet defenders of EA/BIOWARE claim it is down to the minority who hate ME3 and it's travesty of a game/ending.........those minority entitled whiners really do have a voice it would seem if that were the case.......im sure FIFA/MADDEN fans love being signed out of the server and losing connection for no apparant reason.

Let me get this straight. You are using a chart that shows a downward trend in EA's stock prices that started well before Me3's release, as evidence of ME3's failure? Did you even look at this  before you posted it?

[Dr_Extrem]

IsaacShep wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

am i right, that ea released bioware from their mass effect contract, because it is fullfilled?

What? There's no contract, EA owns Bioware and ME series. If EA executives demanded Shepard to transform into a pink elephant in ME4, Bioware would have to do it.

nice attitude .. do you answer all questions like that?

[Kel Riever]

I wouldn't call that well before. And I don't know if it is ME3, but I can say it is definately a chart that shows what investors have been thinking of EA and its lack of performance. Who knows if it is ME3 or not? But I can tell you I am not going to read the annual report on EA and take their word for why things 'aren't as bad as they seem.'

All I know is that ME3 sucked  its ending. And that EA seems to be sucking  even if it has nothing to do with ME3

Modifié par Kel Riever, 06 décembre 2012 - 06:47 .

[Atakuma]

Kel Riever wrote...

I wouldn't call that well before. And I don't know if it is ME3, but I can say it is definately a chart that shows what investors have been thinking of EA and its lack of performance. Who knows if it is ME3 or not? But I can tell you I am not going to read the annual report on EA and take their word for why things 'aren't as bad as they seem.'

All I know is that ME3 sucked  its ending. And that EA seems to be sucking  even if it has nothing to do with ME3

I do. ME3 was one of the few successes EA had that year. Investors couldn't give two craps about some silly internet backlash if it doesn't affect sales. EA has been losing money for years, that has infinately more to do with it's slumping value than a bunch of nerd rage.

[xAmilli0n]

IsaacShep wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

am i right, that ea released bioware from their mass effect contract, because it is fullfilled?

What? There's no contract, EA owns Bioware and ME series. If EA executives demanded Shepard to transform into a pink elephant in ME4, Bioware would have to do it.

I'd buy that game...just saying...



I should go.

[LinksOcarina]

Atakuma wrote...

Kel Riever wrote...

I wouldn't call that well before. And I don't know if it is ME3, but I can say it is definately a chart that shows what investors have been thinking of EA and its lack of performance. Who knows if it is ME3 or not? But I can tell you I am not going to read the annual report on EA and take their word for why things 'aren't as bad as they seem.'

All I know is that ME3 sucked  its ending. And that EA seems to be sucking  even if it has nothing to do with ME3

I do. ME3 was one of the few successes EA had that year. Investors couldn't give two craps about some silly internet backlash if it doesn't affect sales. EA has been losing money for years, that has infinately more to do with it's slumping value than a bunch of nerd rage.

Ironic they have been losing money since Riccitello restructured the company and invested in things like next gen technology, healthcare plans and paid overtime for workers. You know, humane things like that. 

You know, stuff that the EA Spouse rallied for back in 2004.

[Robhuzz]

Kel Riever wrote...

I wouldn't call that well before. And I don't know if it is ME3, but I can say it is definately a chart that shows what investors have been thinking of EA and its lack of performance. Who knows if it is ME3 or not? But I can tell you I am not going to read the annual report on EA and take their word for why things 'aren't as bad as they seem.'

All I know is that ME3 sucked  its ending. And that EA seems to be sucking  even if it has nothing to do with ME3

This chart isn't the result of ME3, it's the CAUSE of it. Well one of it at least. EA recorded a profit in the 2011 financial year. Why? Because of ME3 releasing just before the '11 fiscal year ended. They would've recorded another loss if they hadn't released ME3 right then. It had nothing to do with game quality, it was purely to not have to record another loss. That would've looked bad on investors.

Unfortunately for EA, the stock holders didn't pick up on the positive result and their stocks keep dropping. So much for that tale. Hope they can slack off in the future and no more series have to suffer because of their corporate BS. Wishful thinking but stil...

[LinksOcarina]

Robhuzz wrote...

Kel Riever wrote...

I wouldn't call that well before. And I don't know if it is ME3, but I can say it is definately a chart that shows what investors have been thinking of EA and its lack of performance. Who knows if it is ME3 or not? But I can tell you I am not going to read the annual report on EA and take their word for why things 'aren't as bad as they seem.'

All I know is that ME3 sucked  its ending. And that EA seems to be sucking  even if it has nothing to do with ME3

This chart isn't the result of ME3, it's the CAUSE of it. Well one of it at least. EA recorded a profit in the 2011 financial year. Why? Because of ME3 releasing just before the '11 fiscal year ended. They would've recorded another loss if they hadn't released ME3 right then. It had nothing to do with game quality, it was purely to not have to record another loss. That would've looked bad on investors.

Unfortunately for EA, the stock holders didn't pick up on the positive result and their stocks keep dropping. So much for that tale. Hope they can slack off in the future and no more series have to suffer because of their corporate BS. Wishful thinking but stil...

That is half true.

EA recorded revenue profits, but overall income was still down, albiet in the black. If I remember correctly, it was a near 200% loss in income by the end of the 2012 fiscal year.

So releaseing Mass Effect 3 would have little impact on the overall results. Their Q4 report was a profitable one because of it, yes, but the overall report was still a sharp decrease. It has little to do with them slacking off either I feel, because if that was the case then the final result would have increased income overall and it wouldn't be a 200% net loss. 

Then again, they still finished in the black so what do I know...