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[Ithurael]

Maxster_ wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

Personal feelings aside(I think the IT is dumb), I don't think they will throw in the towel. They're the really hardcore ending haters. They will never accept any ending Bioware has put out.

Except ITers are not ending haters, they are pro-enders. They think that ME3 have most genius ending of a decade.
Look into their thread, if you don't believe me.
Real ME3 haters already left, or staying for lulz, like me

I am pretty sure that I can name a few IT'ers that - without IT or no IT reveal - would go the way of Clevernoob.

Which way is that?
Well, judging from context, maybe my generalization was too broad, but i haven't seen any ITers who hate ending, and not praising it as genius writing.
Maybe you'll show me someone?

Here

and here

And here


And, finally, here

the badger strikes me as one who will prob rage quit

Modifié par Ithurael, 06 décembre 2012 - 03:56 .

[DoomsdayDevice]

Myself - if ME4 confirmed the ME3 endings were face value.

And for the record - I love the endings, because of the indoctrination attempt. It's absolute genius.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 06 décembre 2012 - 04:10 .

[Dendio1]

the fight ended in a draw. The game is up to the individuals interpretation

[AlanC9]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Myself - if ME4 confirmed the ME3 endings were face value.

And for the record - I love the endings, because of the indoctrination attempt. It's absolute genius.

And if ME4 isn't a sequel?

[DoomsdayDevice]

AlanC9 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Myself - if ME4 confirmed the ME3 endings were face value.

And for the record - I love the endings, because of the indoctrination attempt. It's absolute genius.

And if ME4 isn't a sequel?

Then it would remain open to interpretation. A valid possibility for the end of the game, as Chris Priestly put it.

[StElmo]

Jere85 wrote...

Why is this a bad thing? I'm sorry but if they choose to have this as a headcanon, so be it. My headcanon involves me living on rannochs beach with Tali. With a spare room for Grunt as the poor kid just can't live on his own without some guidance. I love IT, and although im not that fanatic about it as i used to be, ill support anything that makes them feel better about the horrible endings that were given in me3.

It matters, because I would love IT to be true, but I don't want to get sucked in to believing something that never comes about. If people keep praising it it will be like more likely to suck me back in,

Modifié par StElmo, 06 décembre 2012 - 04:58 .

[StElmo]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Myself - if ME4 confirmed the ME3 endings were face value.

And for the record - I love the endings, because of the indoctrination attempt. It's absolute genius.

And if ME4 isn't a sequel?

Then it would remain open to interpretation. A valid possibility for the end of the game, as Chris Priestly put it.

The problem with that is you don't actually get closure or a payoff. So it's essentially a game that ends on the climax not the resolution.

Unacceptable.

[KangDo]

ITers consist of both people that love the endings and hate them.

Anyways, I doubt the IT will end with the final ME3 DLC or ME4 unless it gets flat out de-confirmed. I think it's totally possible that if the IT is true that Bioware has no plans to ever reveal it. Reason being is that the IT validates only one of the choices which goes against Bioware's vision of the series to begin with. That and they figured the whole point of the IT is you're supposed to speculate and question what you see.

Considering how long they're taken to either confirm or deny it, I think it's possible that Bioware is content with leaving the IT (whether it's true and they intended it or not) as something for the players that chose Destroy to use to validate their choice while leaving those that chose Control and Synthesis to still enjoy their endings without feeling like they actually lost the war in the most insulting way.

[Zaizer]

4stringwizard wrote...

My view on IT:

If it's not true, then Bioware are idiots for making the endings as they were.

If it is true, they're still idiots for waiting this long to reveal the truth (and thinking that something like this would actually work.)

[DoomsdayDevice]

StElmo wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Myself - if ME4 confirmed the ME3 endings were face value.

And for the record - I love the endings, because of the indoctrination attempt. It's absolute genius.

And if ME4 isn't a sequel?

Then it would remain open to interpretation. A valid possibility for the end of the game, as Chris Priestly put it.

The problem with that is you don't actually get closure or a payoff. So it's essentially a game that ends on the climax not the resolution.

Unacceptable.

It wouldn't be unacceptable if it were cinema.

But for a game... I'm inclined to agree with you.

Then again, I'm 100% convinced that we'll get a reveal in some way. Maybe we'll have to wait until ME4 (hopefully not), but I'm fully expecting to see ME4 becoming a direct sequel, with Shepard. The game hints/foreshadows this constantly.

At this point, Bioware is letting us live through the experience as if Shepard died. "No more Shepard!", says the PR. The last thing we see of Shepard is him/her taking a breath. It's a huge cliffhanger.

Then finally they'll pull away the curtain and shows us Shepard, like Javik, rising from ashes, as an avatar of vengeance.

Don't worry about it.

[StElmo]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

StElmo wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Myself - if ME4 confirmed the ME3 endings were face value.

And for the record - I love the endings, because of the indoctrination attempt. It's absolute genius.

And if ME4 isn't a sequel?

Then it would remain open to interpretation. A valid possibility for the end of the game, as Chris Priestly put it.

The problem with that is you don't actually get closure or a payoff. So it's essentially a game that ends on the climax not the resolution.

Unacceptable.

It wouldn't be unacceptable if it were cinema.

But for a game... I'm inclined to agree with you.

Then again, I'm 100% convinced that we'll get a reveal in some way. Maybe we'll have to wait until ME4 (hopefully not), but I'm fully expecting to see ME4 becoming a direct sequel, with Shepard. The game hints/foreshadows this constantly.

At this point, Bioware is letting us live through the experience as if Shepard died. "No more Shepard!", says the PR. The last thing we see of Shepard is him/her taking a breath. It's a huge cliffhanger.

Then finally they'll pull away the curtain and shows us Shepard, like Javik, rising from ashes, as an avatar of vengeance.

Don't worry about it.

Cinema, the worst outcome is I lose $17 and 2 hours of my life. Although, it is still unacceptable, given how story principles work and audience expectation.

Video Game? Well thats 100+ hours and $120+ spent.

[N7 Lisbeth]

Considering the Mass Effect 3 devs don't believe in an ending for ME3 and that the players should all just head-canon everything, I don't see how or why anyone would have to give up their IT theories.

I thought IT was intriguing, but ultimately a blanket to cover shoddy writing. I prefer not to hide it, I prefer to acknowledge it and attack it at its source. That said, it's no less valid than anything else, moreso in many cases. Nothing that happens in ME4 can affect it, since ME4 simply cannot touch upon the endings in ME3 without getting everything wrong and shooting the franchise in the foot.

[Maxster_]

Ithurael wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

Personal feelings aside(I think the IT is dumb), I don't think they will throw in the towel. They're the really hardcore ending haters. They will never accept any ending Bioware has put out.

Except ITers are not ending haters, they are pro-enders. They think that ME3 have most genius ending of a decade.
Look into their thread, if you don't believe me.
Real ME3 haters already left, or staying for lulz, like me

I am pretty sure that I can name a few IT'ers that - without IT or no IT reveal - would go the way of Clevernoob.

Which way is that?
Well, judging from context, maybe my generalization was too broad, but i haven't seen any ITers who hate ending, and not praising it as genius writing.
Maybe you'll show me someone?

Here

Thanks.

Interesting.
He is deluded(reactivate retake movement - just lol), of course, but that's beside the point. At least he have some sense by saying he won't give them(and "them" being EA as a whole) more money, until they fix it, and encourages everyone follow his example.
Video viewed by 100k, liked by 2700, on his forum - 841 users, ME part - not very active.
From brief view of comments - some EAWare praisers like BSN ITers. But only some, not all.

and here

And here


And, finally, here

So, they lost one ITer as fan.

the badger strikes me as one who will prob rage quit

who?

So, my assertion is now corrected - "Except most ITers are not ending haters, they are pro-enders".

[Argolas]

If ME4 proves the endings are real, IT believers would either have to accept it or state that the whole game ME4 is still part of the dream.

I hope IT is true, I largely agree with DoomsdayDevice. I only find it hard to believe at this point, though. I think if it turns out to be true in any form, I would be laughing for days about those who let the reaper overlord convince them to jump down the Citadel tower, either in dream or reality, that doesn't matter.

[JMDekker2]

My honest opinion is it could go either way. I believe there is evidence/hints that Bioware have been planning something big from the start [and I doubt it has anything to do with me4]. Whether or not this was changed by the reaction and the Extended cut, well I hope not. Hopefully the EC was just a temporary "sedative", not the actual "cure".

Modifié par JMDekker2, 06 décembre 2012 - 06:44 .

[WhiteKnyght]

Argolas wrote...

If ME4 proves the endings are real, IT believers would either have to accept it or state that the whole game ME4 is still part of the dream.

I hope IT is true, I largely agree with DoomsdayDevice. I only find it hard to believe at this point, though. I think if it turns out to be true in any form, I would be laughing for days about those who let the reaper overlord convince them to jump down the Citadel tower, either in dream or reality, that doesn't matter.

Except you're not in the spire of the Presidium tower, you're on the backside of the Circulat part which is facing Earth.

And even if you did jump off the tower, there's this thing called gravity, and it doesn't exist in space.

[Maxster_]

And even if you did jump off the tower, there's this thing called gravity, and it doesn't exist in space.

[KingZayd]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Argolas wrote...

If ME4 proves the endings are real, IT believers would either have to accept it or state that the whole game ME4 is still part of the dream.

I hope IT is true, I largely agree with DoomsdayDevice. I only find it hard to believe at this point, though. I think if it turns out to be true in any form, I would be laughing for days about those who let the reaper overlord convince them to jump down the Citadel tower, either in dream or reality, that doesn't matter.

Except you're not in the spire of the Presidium tower, you're on the backside of the Circulat part which is facing Earth.

And even if you did jump off the tower, there's this thing called gravity, and it doesn't exist in space.

Gravity exists everywhere in the universe.

It's just not always very strong.

Modifié par KingZayd, 06 décembre 2012 - 06:54 .

[DeinonSlayer]

Maxster_ wrote...

And even if you did jump off the tower, there's this thing called gravity, and it doesn't exist in space.

[Maxster_]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

And even if you did jump off the tower, there's this thing called gravity, and it doesn't exist in space.

where:

• F is the force between the masses,
• G is the gravitational constant,
• m1 is the first mass,
• m2 is the second mass, and
• r is the distance between the centers of the masses.

[David7204]

Great job on looking at Wikipedia to get that.

Don't bother denying doing so, since the image data specifies the source.

Modifié par David7204, 06 décembre 2012 - 07:08 .

[AlanC9]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Then again, I'm 100% convinced that we'll get a reveal in some way. Maybe we'll have to wait until ME4 (hopefully not), but I'm fully expecting to see ME4 becoming a direct sequel, with Shepard. The game hints/foreshadows this constantly.

At this point, Bioware is letting us live through the experience as if Shepard died. "No more Shepard!", says the PR. The last thing we see of Shepard is him/her taking a breath. It's a huge cliffhanger.

Then finally they'll pull away the curtain and shows us Shepard, like Javik, rising from ashes, as an avatar of vengeance.

Don't worry about it.

Actually, this is exactly the sort of thing that I do worry about.

[Maxster_]

David7204 wrote...

Great job on looking at Wikipedia to get that.

Really, as if it will be adequate display of formulae using plain text.
You know, if you want to attack me, - do it properly. For now - it just a pathetic attempts

[jpraelster93]

If ME4 is a sequel that uses the endings at face value I will throw in the towel but it would also be a bad idea to take the terrible endings we have right now and make them canon because they are AWFUL

[Maxster_]

jpraelster93 wrote...

If ME4 is a sequel that uses the endings at face value I will throw in the towel but it would also be a bad idea to take the terrible endings we have right now and make them canon because they are AWFUL

When bad ideas even stopped nowadays EAWare, i wonder