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[Ithurael]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

You're 100% wrong, i'm afraid.  Maybe you're just trying to project your own opinion onto others?

So you are totally fine and happy with the literal interpretation as well?

EG The ending (no IT) makes sense and provides sufficent closure.

For me IT and literal are both fine as interpretations, I prefer closure so I put up with plotholes and inconsistancies.

[TheProtheans]

RavenEyry wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

Because followers of IT think it doesn't make any sense without the use of IT.
Hence they don't like it and pretend it is something it is not.

Doesn't make sense != doesn't like. I love literal synthesis because it's so freaking hilarious.

How can you like something full plot holes.
Don't answer that, it's either one or the other.

You like it because it is a joke, I like Mass effect 3 as a joke too.
That doesn't mean I like it as a story.

Modifié par TheProtheans, 06 décembre 2012 - 03:30 .

[DoomsdayDevice]

simonphoenix wrote...

the IT was born out of disgust and fan outrage at the endings

Wrong. I thought I was being indoctrinated on my first playthrough. I didn't trust the child and picked destroy. I didn't need the internet to tell me about this theory. It is a conclusion that many arrived at by themselves.

I - LOVE-  the ending because of the ending being an indoctrination attempt. It blew my mind. It's absolute genius.

simonphoenix wrote...

i admit clevernoob made good points in his documentary but the fact remains that IT was never apart of the devs plans=not canon. fantastic fan fiction nothing more.....

Clevernoob makes a lot of bad points and he did not 'invent' IT. Most IT-ers on BSN don't support his views.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 06 décembre 2012 - 03:32 .

[Seboist]

While the number of ITers will dwindle as time goes on some of them will continue to believe in it right until the grave.

[The Heretic of Time]

I think some ITers are so stubborn that they'll continue to believe in their little conspiracy theory 'till their graves.

[TheProtheans]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

simonphoenix wrote...

the IT was born out of disgust and fan outrage at the endings

Wrong. I thought I was being indoctrinated on my first playthrough. I didn't trust the child and picked destroy. I didn't need the internet to tell me about this theory. It is a conclusion that many arrived at by themselves.

I - LOVE-  the ending because of the ending being an indoctrination attempt. It blew my mind. It's absolute genius.

simonphoenix wrote...

i admit clevernoob made good points in his documentary but the fact remains that IT was never apart of the devs plans=not canon. fantastic fan fiction nothing more.....

Clevernoob makes a lot of bad points and he did not 'invent' IT. Most IT-ers on BSN don't support his views.

What do you think of the literal ending?

[DoomsdayDevice]

IsaacShep wrote...

No it's not. IT exists because people didn't like the endings and were desperate to make them all "haha ohh this didn't actually happen! Phew!".

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Most IT-ers think Bioware are geniuses, because of the mindblowing plot twist that the ending is.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 06 décembre 2012 - 03:34 .

[Codename_Code]

Will people that take the endings literally throw in the towel on the final DLC or when ME4 is released?

[The Heretic of Time]

Codename_Code wrote...

Will people that take the endings literally throw in the towel on the final DLC or when ME4 is released?

Throw in the towel for what? We're not even in the ring.

[TheProtheans]

Codename_Code wrote...

Will people that take the endings literally throw in the towel on the final DLC or when ME4 is released?

Throw in the towel on what? Bioware says Shepard's story is over and they won't be adding anything to the endings.

[shepskisaac]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

No it's not. IT exists because people didn't like the endings and were desperate to make them all "haha ohh this didn't actually happen! Phew!".

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Most IT-ers think Bioware are geniuses, because of the mindblowing plot twist that the ending is.

I do know perfectly what I'm talking about. And so does everyone else. ITers didn't like the endings so they created their own interpretation that they like. Simple.

[OdanUrr]

ghost9191 wrote...

you cannot simply disprove IT

I have to.

[Andromidius]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I think some ITers are so stubborn that they'll continue to believe in their little conspiracy theory 'till their graves.

And you'll stubbornly post there more in that thread then anyone else who actually subscribes to IT.

Nothing better to do, I suppose.

Oh, and its not a conspiracy.  Go look it up.

[DoomsdayDevice]

TheProtheans wrote...

What do you think of the literal ending?

The literal ending outright contradicts the lore.

Apart from that, it is kind of interesting to see how the two Reaper-suggested endings are either becoming a galactic dictator or abolishing organic life as we know it.

I do, however, think it is incredibly naive to trust the Reaper Overlord that it will all play out as he says/as we see in the EC endings.

The Reapers can mess with our minds in ways we cannot even fathom. They are ancient, savagely intelligent creatures who have brainwashed countless cycles of organics into willingly being harvested. Go along with their suggestions, and you'll end up in the 'pretty pictures' Reaper 'matrix', but I don't think you want to know what really happens.

Leviathan taught us that the Reaper illusions can pretty much show us anything they want, it's a refined and perfected form of the Leviathan enthrallment.

As Javik says: "The galaxy has never rewarded the naive."

And that is what I believe, trusting the Reapers is incredibly naive. No offense. I think Bioware will prove us right.

[TheProtheans]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

What do you think of the literal ending?

The literal ending outright contradicts the lore.

Apart from that, it is kind of interesting to see how the two Reaper-suggested endings are either becoming a galactic dictator or abolishing organic life as we know it.

I do, however, think it is incredibly naive to trust the Reaper Overlord that it will all play out as he says/as we see in the EC endings.

The Reapers can mess with our minds in ways we cannot even fathom. They are ancient, savagely intelligent creatures who have brainwashed countless cycles of organics into willingly being harvested. Go along with their suggestions, and you'll end up in the 'pretty pictures' Reaper 'matrix', but I don't think you want to know what really happens.

Leviathan taught us that the Reaper illusions can pretty much show us anything they want, it's a refined and perfected form of the Leviathan enthrallment.

As Javik says: "The galaxy has never rewarded the naive."

And that is what I believe, trusting the Reapers is incredibly naive. No offense. I think Bioware will prove us right.

So you don't actually love the ending as you say, you only love what you think is the ending.

[ElSuperGecko]

TheProtheans wrote...
ITer's hate it because they can't stand the literal version and pretend it is actually a dream.
At the moment you don't openly say it is terrible because of a serious case of delusion.

LOL, no.  Very good of you to try and tell us what we think and how we feel, though. 

[DoomsdayDevice]

IsaacShep wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

No it's not. IT exists because people didn't like the endings and were desperate to make them all "haha ohh this didn't actually happen! Phew!".

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Most IT-ers think Bioware are geniuses, because of the mindblowing plot twist that the ending is.

I do know perfectly what I'm talking about. And so does everyone else. ITers didn't like the endings so they created their own interpretation that they like. Simple.

No. IT-ers love the ending because it was a mind-blowing, 4th wall breaking plot twist of unparalleled proportions.

Deal with it.

[The Heretic of Time]

Andromidius wrote...

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

I think some ITers are so stubborn that they'll continue to believe in their little conspiracy theory 'till their graves.

And you'll stubbornly post there more in that thread then anyone else who actually subscribes to IT.

Nothing better to do, I suppose.

Oh, and its not a conspiracy.  Go look it up.

Yes it is. The IT is a Conspiracy Theory and a Wild Mass Guessing.

[Codename_Code]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Codename_Code wrote...

Will people that take the endings literally throw in the towel on the final DLC or when ME4 is released?

Throw in the towel for what? We're not even in the ring.

You sure ?, The topic is the ring and you are in it. Anything but indeference from a literalist proves some doubt, the acceptance that bioware could confirm any side or leave it open.

IT is an interpretation based on details in the official lore, nobody is throwing any towell until the referee calls the winner.

Modifié par Codename_Code, 06 décembre 2012 - 03:48 .

[Seboist]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

The literal ending outright contradicts the lore. 

Yet you ITers have no issues of other contradictions of lore/continuity like "ah yes reapers", Derperus Sith Empire, Prothean demise being retconned from a surprise decapitation strike to not having embraced diversity, Reapers no longer caring about using the citadel to shut down the relays, etc.

Face it, you guys are butthurt that your wish fulfillment power trip came to an abrupt end with the ending and are now desperately trying to cope with it with your "theory".

[sunnydxmen]

it is really is horrible just accept the ending in move on that theory can be used for anything .like have you heard the coma theory about Pokemon or the Rugrat theory that Angelina and chuckle were the only real ones and the rest were apart of her imagination.

[The Heretic of Time]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

No it's not. IT exists because people didn't like the endings and were desperate to make them all "haha ohh this didn't actually happen! Phew!".

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Most IT-ers think Bioware are geniuses, because of the mindblowing plot twist that the ending is.

I do know perfectly what I'm talking about. And so does everyone else. ITers didn't like the endings so they created their own interpretation that they like. Simple.

No. IT-ers love the ending because it was a mind-blowing, 4th wall breaking plot twist of unparalleled proportions.

Deal with it.

No, you actually HATE the endings, but you LOVE the little conspiracy theory that you cooked up revolving the endings.


If the endings turn out to be nothing more than what they are, you know, the "literal" endings we have now, would you still love it? I don't think so. Would you hate it? Most likely.

[TheProtheans]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...
ITer's hate it because they can't stand the literal version and pretend it is actually a dream.
At the moment you don't openly say it is terrible because of a serious case of delusion.

LOL, no.  Very good of you to try and tell us what we think and how we feel, though. 

I have insider knowledge, I know stuff before you know it.

[ElSuperGecko]

Ithurael wrote...
So you are totally fine and happy with the literal interpretation as well?

EG The ending (no IT) makes sense and provides sufficent closure.

For me IT and literal are both fine as interpretations, I prefer closure so I put up with plotholes and inconsistancies.

As I said, I'm 100% fine with the endings as they stand, literal or not.  I just believe there's much more going on than a literal interpretation would suggest.  Plenty of speculation for everyone - and I enjoy speculating.

IsaacShep wrote...
I do know perfectly what I'm talking about. And so does everyone else. ITers didn't like the endings so they created their own interpretation that they like. Simple.

Prove it.

TheProtheans wrote...
I have insider knowledge, I know stuff before you know it.

Uh-huh. And your "insider knowledge" tells you how a group of people think and feel? Who gives you this "insider knowledge" exactly? The Asari Consort?

Modifié par ElSuperGecko, 06 décembre 2012 - 03:54 .

[DoomsdayDevice]

TheProtheans wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

TheProtheans wrote...

What do you think of the literal ending?

The literal ending outright contradicts the lore.

Apart from that, it is kind of interesting to see how the two Reaper-suggested endings are either becoming a galactic dictator or abolishing organic life as we know it.

I do, however, think it is incredibly naive to trust the Reaper Overlord that it will all play out as he says/as we see in the EC endings.

The Reapers can mess with our minds in ways we cannot even fathom. They are ancient, savagely intelligent creatures who have brainwashed countless cycles of organics into willingly being harvested. Go along with their suggestions, and you'll end up in the 'pretty pictures' Reaper 'matrix', but I don't think you want to know what really happens.

Leviathan taught us that the Reaper illusions can pretty much show us anything they want, it's a refined and perfected form of the Leviathan enthrallment.

As Javik says: "The galaxy has never rewarded the naive."

And that is what I believe, trusting the Reapers is incredibly naive. No offense. I think Bioware will prove us right.

So you don't actually love the ending as you say, you only love what you think is the ending.

No, I love it. I watch ending videos on youtube just to watch Shepards jump willingly into the synthesis beam. It's creepy and beautiful at the same time. Goosebumps.

It's art.

Even if Bioware never reveals what actually happens, I will never get tired of that. Or all the creepy people with glowy green eyes. Love it, love it.