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[garrusfan1]

Ashley is better then kaiden that is all. Kaiden fans are just jealous.

[StayFrosty05]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Ashley Kaidan is better then kaiden Ashley that is all. Kaiden Ashley fans are just jealous.

Corrected your typing mistakes for you....no need to thank me, all in a days work.........

[garrusfan1]

Stay frosty you kaiden fans will be the death of us all. I might be serious

[Steelcan]

StayFrosty05 wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Ashley Kaidan is better then kaiden Ashley that is all. Kaiden Ashley fans are just jealous.

Corrected your typing mistakes for you....no need to thank me, all in a days work.........

+ 10

[L2 Sentinel]

SeptimusMagistos wrote...

Rauhel wrote...

I honestly don't get why people think the Virmire Survivor is being an idiot. They are wary of the possibility that Shepard's mind could have been altered by Cerberus. Cerberus had the means, the resources, and the motive. The real question is why isn't anyone else suspicious?

Because Shepard is still running around doing heroic stuff.

Seriously, the first time the VS sees Shepard again he's just finished saving the colony. Why does the VS feel the need to ignore that factor?

I don't know all the different ways Horizon can go down, but Kaidan was happy to see me, grateful for the help, and only upset that I was working with Cerberus, aka the group that killed Admiral Kohoku. You know, the ones that experiment with thorian creepers, husks, and rachni? Those guys that led an alliance squad into a thresher maw's nest. I asked him to join me and leave the alliance, he said no. Expecting him to trust Cerberus because they helped one colony is a bit unreasonable. If he doesn't trust Cerberus, how is he supposed to trust me, the guy they've been operating on for 2 years? In Mass Effect 3 he takes full responisbility for mistrusting me and regrets not joining me on Horizon. What more do people want?

[StayFrosty05]

garrusfan1 wrote...

Stay frosty you kaiden fans will be the death of us all. I might be serious

[TheWerdna]

I have gone through it with both, and Kaidan sounds far less ****y and obnoxious about his distrust. Now, its still annoying and pisses me off, just that Ashley's tone and word choice makes me want to kill her.

[Laforgus]

 I first let her blow up on Virmine, that Racist talking bad bout Garru and Tali.

But when i saw her on ME3:

https://encrypted-tb...9PzIHJ6hMen3uAR

Then i Was:



So i replayed all the way back just to have that.....err....THAT!

Modifié par Laforgus, 07 décembre 2012 - 03:11 .

[TheWerdna]

Gixxer6Rdr wrote...

He was romantically in love with her smartass, as I said earlier, Im a single father of two. Didn't mention my psych. background, my bad. Allow ME to explain a bit clearer... a heterosexual male who has previously been involved with women, does not "turn" gay. He may have been hiding it and lying to himself sure... but that's headcanon, and doesn't apply to my thoughts of the game. I go with what they showed and told me, not what I made up to make myself happier.

You know, there is something called being bi-sexual, right? There are alot of people who are sexually attracted to people of both genders.

[Mathias]

Xenos91 wrote...

Urgh all these anti-Ashley, feels like I'm in MEG.

also Jacob>Kaidan.

From i've seen, MEG thinks Ashley in terms of writing was one of the best characters in ME1. But Ashleigh on the other hand...

[KiwiQuiche]

SeptimusMagistos wrote...

I really don't appreciate it from him either.

He's calmer about it, though. A little more professional. Ash makes it more personal.

[DeadpoolBub]

The voice acting.

Ashley goes full Grizzly Bear on your ass, while Kaidan is much more calm about it.

[Mathias]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

SeptimusMagistos wrote...

I really don't appreciate it from him either.

He's calmer about it, though. A little more professional. Ash makes it more personal.

For me it was more fitting that Ash made it seem a little more personal given our relationship together.

[mechalynx]

Paralenko wrote...

Rauhel wrote...

I honestly don't get why people think the Virmire Survivor is being an idiot. They are wary of the possibility that Shepard's mind could have been altered by Cerberus. Cerberus had the means, the resources, and the motive. The real question is why isn't anyone else suspicious?

I totally agree. I think they act competely reasonable. Personally I respect the VS and Wrex more than any other squad members because theyr'e willing to stand up to Shepard.

I have nothing but love and respect for Wrex because after Shep convinced him to sacrifice a cure to stop Saren, he still greeted Shepard like a friend and helped out in any way he could. Kaidan was basically this:

Horizon:
"Oh Shep, my one true love! I am so not thanking you for pulling my ass out of dodge together with the rest of the colony. Let me instead call you a heinous traitor. No, you don't get to explain how come you're with them instead of busy repainting the new Normandy with Alliance colors. Traitor! Watch me pimp away and sulk at the same time."

Letter:
"Yeah, I could have handled Horizon better, but you still suck. Oh, try not to die, we might totally hook up if you don't smell too much of Cerberus after you're done doing my job."

Mars:
"Cerberus! Why are you still with Cerberus? Oh you're not? Don't believe you. Allow me to interrupt the mission some more by asking the same thing I did not 2 minutes ago. Oh, ****, you look mad! Totally trust you." 

5 minutes later:
"Are you sure you're not a Cerberus zombie? What about my precious feelings?!"

10 minutes later
*nearly dies of not being a trained marine and space wizard while attacked by a fembot*

Hospital:
Kaidan - "OMG, YOU CHEATED! We're so still together, I wrote you a letter and everything."
Shepard (missing dialog option) - "Are you ****ing kidding me?! We're over!

Hospital again:
"Ha! They made me a spectre after not having another spectre evaluate me."

Coup:
Kaidan - "Cerberus traitor!"
Shepard - "I swear to God, I'll kill you!"
Kaidan - "Uh, Udina, please step aside."

Later:
Kaidan - "I kinda get the feeling that you might have pulled the trigger back there."
Shepard - "Specultating is useless."
Garrus - "Would you?"
Shepard - "Oh, yeah."

Date:
Kaidan - "I forgive you."

I'm sorry, but this is not the character most of my Sheps romanced in ME, because if I had a hint that this was on the table, I'd have saved them for Garrus. I have never seen this sort of writing outside of a Harlequin novel. If I didn't know any better, I'd swear that Jennifer Hepler was on the writing team. 

To answer OP, he doesn't get more slack in general due to being dead in 75% of the Virmire outcomes. Ashely on the other hand gets no slack du e to her habit of speaking before thinking. 

If I weren't such a War Assets junkie, I'd kill them at the coup. 

Modifié par mechalynx, 07 décembre 2012 - 04:17 .

[mechalynx]

Paralenko wrote...

@mechalynx:

I think your paraphrasing a bit.

Nah, just summing it up the best I can 

Honestly, this is exactly the feeling I got out of interacting with him on every playthrough.

I think it was perfectly in Ash's character, she was always a hothead. Kaidan did a 180 in the two  years Shep's been dead.

[Dr. Akairos]

As playthrough as a soldier, vanguard twice, and infiltrator. I saved kaiden the first two times. Ashley 2nd two. I find that Kaiden is a much much more useful squadmate, as ashley is basicly James without the funny quotes.

Though Ash is my fav love interest by far. Mostly because she's a human. 

Modifié par Dr. Akairos, 07 décembre 2012 - 05:08 .

[KiwiQuiche]

DeadpoolBub wrote...

The voice acting.

Ashley goes full Grizzly Bear on your ass, while Kaidan is much more calm about it.

I approve of this description.

[L2 Sentinel]

Paralenko wrote...

There is no question the VS was wrong, but looking at it from their perspective I can understand how they would reach that conclusion.

Furthermore, Kaidan admits that he was wrong. Twice. Once in the hospital, and again before rejoining the Normandy. Then he says he will never doubt Shepard again. I haven't seen Ashley's scenes.

Modifié par Rauhel, 07 décembre 2012 - 05:46 .

[SeptimusMagistos]

Rauhel wrote...

Paralenko wrote...

There is no question the VS was wrong, but looking at it from their perspective I can understand how they would reach that conclusion.

Furthermore, Kaidan admits that he was wrong. Twice. Once in the hospital, and again before rejoining the Normandy. Then he says he will never doubt Shepard again. I haven't seen Ashley's scenes.

Too little, too late. The time to never doubt Shepard was back in ME2, when all the cool kids weren't doubting Shepard.

[nos_astra]

SeptimusMagistos wrote...

Rauhel wrote...

Paralenko wrote...

There is no question the VS was wrong, but looking at it from their perspective I can understand how they would reach that conclusion.

Furthermore, Kaidan admits that he was wrong. Twice. Once in the hospital, and again before rejoining the Normandy. Then he says he will never doubt Shepard again. I haven't seen Ashley's scenes.

Too little, too late. The time to never doubt Shepard was back in ME2, when all the cool kids weren't doubting Shepard.

Because the cool kids are idiots.

[Cyrax86]

Kaiden > Ash

With Ash its more of a one sided friendship most times, even if you go full paragon with her she's still annoying, while Kaiden backs off.

During VS hospital visit, Kaiden actually apologises, Ash doesn't.

(ME3)Kaiden goes around the Normandy and talks to the crew and chats over the intercom as well , Ash stays in that room because the Normandy crew doesn't like her. >

[Sable Rhapsody]

Because having played through ME3 with each of them in turn (unromanced), Ash is a lot more of a b**** about it than Kaidan, even though I had a better relationship with Ash in ME1 than I did with Kaidan. To be entirely fair to Ash, she also suffers from dialogue cuts and bugs that diminish her character.