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[Ronnie Blastoff]

Cyonan wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Biotic Charge
> Grants 50% damage reduction for 4 seconds o.0?
> Deals 3x force to frozen targets
> Can hit upto 1 target(3 with Radius evolution)

Nova
> Can hit upto 3 targets
> Grants 1.5 seconds of full damage immunity
> Is not on the global cooldown

Either this is a host only thing (almost never host cause NAT is on) or is bugged as shyt. never seen anything that looks like damage reduction on biotic charge, and the immunity doesn't count as being immune if you can be sync killed out of it.

It works on and off host, but 50% alone is not a very big number considering that all DR is only 75% as effective as the listed numbers, which includes these. It's really 37.5%.

Batarian Vanguard can go immune to damage though, which he could not do without Biotic Charge's DR.

I considered it full damage immunity since sync kills aren't really damage as much as they're just auto kills. I should probably leave a note about that, though.

PC? Because I played novaguard ALOT during the demo/early N7 0~2k times. I have NEVER seen anything that resembles damage reduction or anythin even hinting in the direction. (even if it was, I'd bet a couple fingers and a few toes it wasn't 4 seconds long) I've actually had more instances I can remeber where biotic charge didn't recharge my shields, or I've been instakilled while in mid teleport or something else rediculous. But on xbox, if there is "soppose" to be a damage reduction, its not there. Even on krogaurd without a barrier, (yea I've tryed with carnage >.>) there has never been anything hinting at DR.

Not trying to call you out on a lie or anything btw Cyonan, *really respect you and peddroz work* just saying that if there is a DR, scratch out another line on the "bugged shyt" belt and may as well have bioware open up those closed down "PC master race" threads cause thats some wtf ness.

[CaoSlayer]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Either this is a host only thing (almost never host cause NAT is on) or is bugged as shyt. never seen anything that looks like damage reduction on biotic charge, and the immunity doesn't count as being immune if you can be sync killed out of it.

Inmunity in general only means inmune to damage, force (the easiest test is to nova into a brute, you will get interrupted) and grabs will work normally.

For the DR thing, remember that effective DR is about the 70% of the listed DR. You can prove it easily with a batarian brawler specced with armour blade DR. Charge and initate a heavy melee, no enemy attack will drop your shield.

[aimimia]

Is it too late to say I love you?

[Catastrophy]

Nice, let me throw in some remarks and open questions I have:

Marksman:
Kicks in once the weapon trigger is pulled anew. Does not buff RoF while actually firing. The RoF buff is carried over as long as the weapon has ammo, even if Marksman expires. (Forum says) I wonder how it interacts with Thermal Ammo pack. Need to test this.

Shockwave:
It goes where the character looks to. It is not a targetted power. Is it effective if aimed upwards / downwards? Can it go through walls / half cover / crates?

Smash
Does not work on targets at a different height. Travels 8 (?) meters even through any obstacles (bar enemies). Swarmers supposed to take the hit and may block smash to reach the desired target. Smash can only affect 2-3 (?) targets.

Sabotage
Does damage to any enemy, regardless what weapon they might hold or not.

Nova
Does it travel through obstacles?

Stasis
Does not work on armoured targets. Can't say that often enough.

[Iron---Man]

Nice thread, thank you.

Electric and biotic clash can go through walls (didnt see that mentioned yet).

[AHAHHH]

Maybe you coud add Volus Melee.
For example cloak duration and cooldown.
DR for the bubble.

Does that bubble protect form beeing sync-killed? Can a Volus even been sync-killed?

[CaoSlayer]

AHAHHH wrote...
Does that bubble protect form beeing sync-killed? Can a Volus even been sync-killed?

No and yes.

Still, some sync kills with the volus seem bugged, I once got sync-killed by a praetorian and respawned.

[Relix28]

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Ronnie Blastoff wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Biotic Charge
> Grants 50% damage reduction for 4 seconds o.0?
> Deals 3x force to frozen targets
> Can hit upto 1 target(3 with Radius evolution)

Nova
> Can hit upto 3 targets
> Grants 1.5 seconds of full damage immunity
> Is not on the global cooldown

Either this is a host only thing (almost never host cause NAT is on) or is bugged as shyt. never seen anything that looks like damage reduction on biotic charge, and the immunity doesn't count as being immune if you can be sync killed out of it.

It works on and off host, but 50% alone is not a very big number considering that all DR is only 75% as effective as the listed numbers, which includes these. It's really 37.5%.

Batarian Vanguard can go immune to damage though, which he could not do without Biotic Charge's DR.

I considered it full damage immunity since sync kills aren't really damage as much as they're just auto kills. I should probably leave a note about that, though.

PC? Because I played novaguard ALOT during the demo/early N7 0~2k times. I have NEVER seen anything that resembles damage reduction or anythin even hinting in the direction. (even if it was, I'd bet a couple fingers and a few toes it wasn't 4 seconds long) I've actually had more instances I can remeber where biotic charge didn't recharge my shields, or I've been instakilled while in mid teleport or something else rediculous. But on xbox, if there is "soppose" to be a damage reduction, its not there. Even on krogaurd without a barrier, (yea I've tryed with carnage >.>) there has never been anything hinting at DR.

Not trying to call you out on a lie or anything btw Cyonan, *really respect you and peddroz work* just saying that if there is a DR, scratch out another line on the "bugged shyt" belt and may as well have bioware open up those closed down "PC master race" threads cause thats some wtf ness.

Ugh. Maybe instead of whining and getting worked up over nothing, you could do a very simple test.

-Start a game on silver/geth. Leave one rocket trooper alive on wave 1.
-Get shot by the rocket without using BC beforehand.
-Then get shot by the rocket after using biotic charge (make sure it's in the 4 second DR window).
-Compare damage taken and find out that DR works just fine.

[Hausner85]

Great thanks

[IoeShepard]

CaoSlayer wrote...

AHAHHH wrote...
Does that bubble protect form beeing sync-killed? Can a Volus even been sync-killed?

No and yes.

Still, some sync kills with the volus seem bugged, I once got sync-killed by a praetorian and respawned.

Not only volus.

[iOnlySignIn]

Sticky this. Nao.

[Catastrophy]

Energy Drain
Can only set up tech bursts on targets that have a shield?
Or:
Can only detonate tech bursts on targets that have a shield?

[Eckswhyzed]

dr_random wrote...

Energy Drain
Can only set up tech bursts on targets that have a shield?
Or:
Can only detonate tech bursts on targets that have a shield?

Energy drain can only detonate on targets with shields, barriers or are synthetics. 

[CaoSlayer]

Cyonan wrote...

Snap Freeze
> Can hit upto 3 targets
> Base force of 250N
> Cryo Explosions set up by Snap Freeze deal 2x damage.

- Ignores walls and heights.
- Only can freeze one opponent, others will be chilled.
- Can't freeze phantoms.
- You can rotate while using it for covering a larger area in front of you.

[Gethzilla-N7SP]

Thanks, Cyonan!
I'll recommend this thread to my friends!

[I_pity_the_fool]

according to coalesced, stasis does 25 damage and has a 'healthdamagethreshhold' of 150.

I suppose that means that the stasis breaks once you've done 150 points of damage to health. Seems true. Damage to shields and barriers seems to have no effect.

[Shnibadabobin]

CaoSlayer wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Snap Freeze
> Can hit upto 3 targets
> Base force of 250N
> Cryo Explosions set up by Snap Freeze deal 2x damage.

- Ignores walls and heights.
- Only can freeze one opponent, others will be chilled.
- Can't freeze phantoms.
- You can rotate while using it for covering a larger area in front of you.

Extremely imprtant! Cryo Blast can only cause Cryo Explosions on frozen solid targets, while Snap Freeze can cause Cryo Explosions on ANY targets. Very fun with 3-chain Overload.

Perhaps list how to prime explosions and how to cause detonations. Energy Drain and Snap Freeze are very glitchy, for example, and should be explained further.

OH OH Also, Fire Explosions caused by Snap Freeze create a VISUAL bug where see the fire explosion on yourself instead of the enemy. It is only an illusion, and will still explode on the target normally.

Modifié par Shnibadabobin, 06 décembre 2012 - 12:44 .

[Shnibadabobin]

Double Post
Sorry, post took about 30 seconds to show up...

Modifié par Shnibadabobin, 06 décembre 2012 - 12:39 .

[Boog_89]

Cyonan wrote...

Cluster Grenade
Damage to already-listed targets applies to any target primed for a Biotic Explosion, not just lifted targets

Seriously? If thats true then its an extremely misleading decrption in game, I will have to try my drell adept with this choice now. 

Overload
Deals 50% damage to organic health/armour(This penality if removed if you have the Neural Shock evolution)
Neural Shock adds 300% damage to organic shields/barriers(This effectively is 1 free hit, due to the modifiers it naturally gets)

Again this is a strangely hidden factor if true, I always chose recharge speed but I will definitely try neural shock now.

Thanks for the eye opener. 

[RenegadeSpectre]

Nice. Great post OP!

[geroni24]

how does force affect damage? might be a noob question but thats what im am, a noob

Modifié par geroni24, 06 décembre 2012 - 12:53 .

[himegoto]

Nice one. glad I see it
Adding it to my sig.

And if anyone know this, why doesn't throw ragdolls phantoms at over 1000N ?

[iOnlySignIn]

Your numbers re: Sentry Turret are the pre-buffed values.

It had since been buffed:
http://social.biowar...4143/1#12681555

[kipac]

What's the FE priming duration of the homing grenade?
I think it's really short..