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[rolson00]

What Topics do you all reckon would be great for bioware to do that have been mentioned in DA:O and DA2?
Please no mocking or put downs of other people.

For me its the legend of andraste they could do something where you either have to save her liveing descendant or preserve evidance of her being a powerful mage from the chantry or even better both
(edit yes i'm thinking da vinci code here)

Modifié par rolson00, 06 décembre 2012 - 10:02 .

[Estelindis]

I'm not mocking you or putting you down when I say this, but I can think of fewer books that I'd want to "inspire" the Dragon Age writing staff than The Da Vinci Code. I think each and every one of them can knock Dan Brown out of the park when it comes to characterisation, consistency in world-building, and emotion. He could maybe teach a thing or two about pacing, but that's it.

In my experience, trying to force direct allegories into fantasy fiction is a losing game anyway. They're almost always woefully transparent and it feels condescending.

In terms of what I do want to see, I'm interested in visiting lands that we haven't visited yet, but BW are already working on that.

[Herr Uhl]

rolson00 wrote...

For me its the legend of andraste they could do something where you either have to save her liveing descendant or preserve evidance of her being a powerful mage from the chantry or even better both
(edit yes i'm thinking da vinci code here)

How would a descendant prove that she was a mage?

[Direwolf0294]

I'd like to hear more about the Black Divine and how the Chantry is doing in Tevinter, especially now that there's that whole mage vs templar war.

I'm also interested in how the technology and science in Thedas is progressing. Is there an elven version of da Vinci designing a flying machine? Some mage coming up with a theory of gravitation? Are there astronomers looking to the stars and wondering what's out there? Has anyone thought about using steam for power? What about guns? I know BioWare has said they won't appear in the game, but has anyone looked at Quanari's black powder and wondered how to weaponise it? Have the Quanari thought about doing that themselves?

Also, what about exploration? Are there explorers out there setting out on expeditions to discover new continents? Are there pioneers trying to build a new life in a strange new land?

[Herr Uhl]

Direwolf0294 wrote...

Also, what about exploration? Are there explorers out there setting out on expeditions to discover new continents? Are there pioneers trying to build a new life in a strange new land?

That'd be the Qunari.

[SpunkyMonkey]

Bare in mind I've only played the games and don't read the books etc., but I always found The witches of the wilds an interesting part of DA folk-lore. I'd love to see another long, lost witch appear from somewhere. Someone who was prepped to be a host but escaped somehow (stabbed by a Templar and left for dead etc.)

[iOnlySignIn]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Direwolf0294 wrote...

Also, what about exploration? Are there explorers out there setting out on expeditions to discover new continents? Are there pioneers trying to build a new life in a strange new land?

That'd be the Qunari.

Anaan esaam Qun.

[jack253]

I agree that it would be interesting to learn more about the witches of the wilds. Beyond that I would like to see more spirits of the fade. Sure demons are common but we know nearly nothing about their counterparts the spirits and their connection to the black city.

[rolson00]

Herr Uhl wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

For me its the legend of andraste they could do something where you either have to save her liveing descendant or preserve evidance of her being a powerful mage from the chantry or even better both
(edit yes i'm thinking da vinci code here)

How would a descendant prove that she was a mage?

i didn't say that, i said two different ideas evidance of her being a mage could tie in with finding her decendants or vice versa.

But i agree with you jack253 the black city is something i'd like to know more about

Modifié par rolson00, 06 décembre 2012 - 01:24 .

[Sandy]

I'd like for them to take the story in a more Song of Ice and Fire-direction, especially the whole noble-houses/factions trying to manipulate each other to gain power. We had a bit of that in Origins with Dwarwen Nobles and the the Human Noble background, as well as Loghain and Howe, but I think a civil war in Orlais would be a golden opportunity to have more politics and cloak and dagger. My favorite parts of the Song of Ice and Fire books are the part in Westeros where the great houses clash not only on the battlefield, but mor behind the senes. It would be amazing to decide whether you want to take care of business Ned Stark-style or Cersei Lannister-style.

[nightscrawl]

Yeah... I wouldn't want to see the whole Andraste da Vinci Code thing either, sorry OP.

Most of the stuff I'm interested in has already been mentioned in the games, but could use with more elaboration, such as the Qunari.

simfamSP wrote...

Thinking on it, I feel that the narrative should always come before the allegory, or at least, the 'moral.' Touching upon topics can feel forced; uninspired and cheap. The last thing anybody wants it to go through Dragon Age Three only to see 'topic #1' being shoved down your throat.

"HA HA, SEE WHAT WE DID THERE? SLAVERY AND MORALS! RIGHT? RIGHT?"

Meh Star Trek has been doing that for decades, very openly, and it's a highly popular franchise.

sandellniklas wrote...

I'd like for them to take the story in a more Song of Ice and Fire-direction, especially the whole noble-houses/factions trying to manipulate each other to gain power. We had a bit of that in Origins with Dwarwen Nobles and the the Human Noble background, as well as Loghain and Howe, but I think a civil war in Orlais would be a golden opportunity to have more politics and cloak and dagger. My favorite parts of the Song of Ice and Fire books are the part in Westeros where the great houses clash not only on the battlefield, but mor behind the senes. It would be amazing to decide whether you want to take care of business Ned Stark-style or Cersei Lannister-style.

I would not want this AT ALL. It's fun to read about other people, but I wouldn't want my character dealing with all of that crap. At some point I would just be like "OMG F all you people *leave*." All of the lies, manipulations, hidden motivations would get real old, real quick. I could only handle that in small doses. I didn't like it when I played a dwarven noble, and I didn't like it when I had to deal with people's petty disputes in DAA as the Warden-Commander Arlessa of Amaranthine.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 06 décembre 2012 - 03:38 .

[Isaantia]

Direwolf0294 wrote...


I'm also interested in how the technology and science in Thedas is progressing. Is there an elven version of da Vinci designing a flying machine? Some mage coming up with a theory of gravitation? Are there astronomers looking to the stars and wondering what's out there? Has anyone thought about using steam for power? What about guns? I know BioWare has said they won't appear in the game, but has anyone looked at Quanari's black powder and wondered how to weaponise it? Have the Quanari thought about doing that themselves?

I'm interested in this too. For a world that seems to hate magic so much, you'd think there would be more scientific research and thinking going on. Heck, you'd think mages would even study that.  It sounds like the dwarves and their smith caste are inventors of a sort, but true break throughs are rare. Branka's clean coal being the last significant invention for them. Dagna (that dwarf that wants to study magic) is one of the few people in the world we've encountered that seems genuinely curious about the world she lives in. 

I get that most citizens of Thedas are just getting by but surely there is someone out there who is facinated by the world and wants to research it. 

[SerTabris]

There actually was a book you could find in Orzammar, "The Search for the True Prophet". Its description: This tattered tome explores the possibility that Andraste was a powerful mage, not the Maker's Chosen. It seems this book was saved from a fire at some point.

[rolson00]

ah yes i found that as well

[Todd23]

Where the Kossith came from.

[Felya87]

I'd like to know more about the Drangon cultist...we see the cultists in Heaven, but in the codex, it's written that there are various groups. I'd like to know more about how the Hight Dragons made people serve them, and...yeah, I just really miss those fanatics bastards.

[TheBlackAdder13]

I would not want this AT ALL. It's fun to read about other people, but I wouldn't want my character dealing with all of that crap. At some point I would just be like "OMG F all you people *leave*." All of the lies, manipulations, hidden motivations would get real old, real quick. I could only handle that in small doses. I didn't like it when I played a dwarven noble, and I didn't like it when I had to deal with people's petty disputes in DAA as the Warden-Commander Arlessa of Amaranthine.

I have to disagree with you. I can't get enough of this stuff and dealing with the political disputes were some of my favorite parts of Awakening. I found sorely lacking in DA 2 -- despite being involved with the nobles in a city politically controlled by templars and having subplots involving an exiled prince and a high-ranking guard captain. I think the lack of inclusion of political occurences and manipulations is part of what made the execution of DA 2's story and setting feel weak and unrealistic. We had absolutely no context for Kirkwall's political structure and what it means for Hawke's role as champion and re-established noble, not to mention his associations with people like Meredith, Viscount Dumar, Sebastian and Aveline. I hope this gets amped up in DA 3. I mean, we're going to Orlais AND we get our own castle, how could they not?!

Modifié par TheBlackAdder13, 08 décembre 2012 - 12:06 .

[Celtic Latino]

Let's see:

Nations OTHER than Ferelden for starters. We know a bit about Orlais, but what we know stems mostly from dialogue with Leliana (who, as a bard, we know will embellish things) and French stereotypes/tropes, but we know next to nothing of Antiva, Rivain, Nevarra, or the Anderfels. Heck even the Tevinter Imperium, which is referenced to often, we haven't experienced firsthand.

Other things include:
-The Avvar barbarians. In the pen and paper game you can play as one (I think), yet I've yet to see one. They had a pretty interesting culture from what I've read.
-Dwarven spirituality and perspectives on the Chantry. Actually, include magic with that as well. I really am curious as to how humans and elves could go into the Fade and become mages yet dwarves can't. I'm wondering if there's a deeper reason than just biological differences. I also would like to know what caste Andrastians fall under if they convert to a non-dwarven faith or ideal and are not surfacers.
-We've seen the jibes between Fereldans and Orlesians, complete with every England and France joke there could be, but what about their perspectives on other nations? And what perspective do those nations have on them? That I'd like to see. I wonder if it's varied or are there certain prejudices and animosities (when they're not picking on the alienage elves anyway...).