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[frankf43]

brushyourteeth wrote...

frankf43 wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

I'm a little confused, actually.

We have a F/F romance thread, a M/M romance thread, and a M/F romance thread where both straight men and straight women are pitching their ideal guy or girl.

And now this thread (which, no harm done, OP)

.... wouldn't it be a whole lot more productive and integrative to just have one thread for players who romance women, and one thread for players who romance men?

I mean, I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I don't see the problem with sharing the squee with gay guys. They're more likely to share my excitement than straight ones.

Why stick to one thread on a topic when we can have more? we've got at least twelve months until the release if we limit the threads and topics the forum will grind to a halt long before next Autum.


After all we have about fifteen different Mage/Templar debate threads so why not multipule romance threads.

As John Lennon said Make love not war:)

Well, there's the fact that they're inadvertently not so much separated by interest as they are by sexual orientation. 

"Straight people go here. Gay people, you go here and here."
... I'm not distressed about it, but I did notice and wonder why the need, y'know?

 Ok I get you and don't know the answer. I was just saying the more romance the better. and it beats the which way up you open your egg fight the mage templar debate has become.

[Lord Issa]

The only things I really want in a LI in DA3 are for her to be intelligent and reasonable. I don't care if we disagree a lot, but I do think that someone who actually listens to what you have to say would be preferable to someone who doesn't change at all.

[Fiacre]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

The gifts weren't brought up to evaluate them, they were brought up in the context of DA2 being accused of having provided the player with I-Win romance buttons.

You don't have to take them because they're there, just like you don't have to spam gifts if your character wouldn't do so.

Well, you'll have to choose the flirt options to initiate the romance. How many do you have to choose btw? IIRC there's even an achievement for it, but I tend to flirt a lot with my intended LI anyway, so I'm not sure how much of it is required. And if the one you were flirting with was actually an LI, it *was* an I win button, for the most part. As I said before, there was more of a chance to screw it up in DA:O with things like telling Alistair that he's a naive fool after the Goldanna quest which cuts the romance off.

The flirt icon is actually one of the things I disliked most about the icons -- it was a lot more fun to have to think about what my LI would be receptive to, and a lot more interesting to have a character decide that I suck for being an ass and he isn't interested in a relationship with me any more, rather than have the broken heart icon (which, judging from paraphrases, was an outright rejection, anyway.)

[Todd23]

Desire Demon.

[ShadyKat]

All I want is a female Kossith/Qunari and a female dwarf. Would be nice to have something other then the standard human&elf romances.

[Fast Jimmy]

Fiacre wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

The gifts weren't brought up to evaluate them, they were brought up in the context of DA2 being accused of having provided the player with I-Win romance buttons.

You don't have to take them because they're there, just like you don't have to spam gifts if your character wouldn't do so.

Well, you'll have to choose the flirt options to initiate the romance. How many do you have to choose btw? IIRC there's even an achievement for it, but I tend to flirt a lot with my intended LI anyway, so I'm not sure how much of it is required. And if the one you were flirting with was actually an LI, it *was* an I win button, for the most part. As I said before, there was more of a chance to screw it up in DA:O with things like telling Alistair that he's a naive fool after the Goldanna quest which cuts the romance off.

The flirt icon is actually one of the things I disliked most about the icons -- it was a lot more fun to have to think about what my LI would be receptive to, and a lot more interesting to have a character decide that I suck for being an ass and he isn't interested in a relationship with me any more, rather than have the broken heart icon (which, judging from paraphrases, was an outright rejection, anyway.)

I always refer to the Morrigan romance as one that would be difficult to do with DA2's system.

There is a point where Morrigan asks you about love and your thoughts on it. In order to continue the romance, you need to answer with a "romance is an illusion" or some such line. The incorrect answer, of saying love is important, will lower her approval and possibly end the romance.

Would the line saying love is an illusion be a heart icon? Would the one saying love is important be a heart break icon? Doesn't that seem... a little dichotomous? 

Later, Morrigan begs you to break up with her, that she can't take being in love with you anymore. If you say no, she stays in the relationship, but warns you that the consequences are not her doing. If you say yes, the relationship is over.

Would be saying no to save the relationship be a heart icon? An "X" or No icon? A "check" or Yes icon? You are saying no to her request, which means yes to the relationship. And vice versa.


I suppose the easy answer to all of that would be "Morrigan's romance would have been rewritten to make more sense with the given icons" but... if writing is beholden to the icon systems limitations, doesn't that mean that the icons themselves are potentially limiting story and (in the theme of this thread) romance outcomes?

[ManOfSteel]

A tough woman, a la Ashley and Aveline.

[llandwynwyn]

Tootles FTW wrote...
I brought Fenris with me on most every quest so between my hating slavers (+F) and liking of mages (+R) I never reached a significant amount of Friendship or Rivalry to instigate the romance.

The first time I played I did just that and got Fenris on full friendship before act 2 was over. I'd to cheat to finally having him as a rival in my games. Really, the companions in DA2 are as easy to please as the ones in DAO. Carver and (with a morally grey Hawke) Varric were the only ones I felt I had to work hard for the relationship to succeed positively.

[Robert Cousland]

I want Sigrun back, Bioware owes us a Dwarf romance.

[axl99]

So long as it's a relationship of equals they can go nuts.

[Giant ambush beetle]

What I'd like to see is a strong (*) seasoned down-to-earth sharp witted female warrior who also looks like the capable fighter she is.

She's been fighting long enough as either sellsword / for her own survival to find honor codes, oaths, religious beliefs or fanatical righteousness only encumbering on the battlefields which turned her into a individualistic opportunist - though not completely laking morals.

A character like that could also have a ton of different origins, barbarian outcast, ex-knight/templar.......

(*) But not excessively snarky and arrogant - Bioware writers often mix up strong and independent with just plain unfriendly and annoying.

[nightcobra]

the empress.

...what? i like power.

[DarkSpiral]

Auintus wrote...

One that you can screw up. The romances in DA2 were basically "pick heart, successful romance" even if you are nothing short of brutal to them and their beliefs. I want one where you have to be more careful.

Oooh, that's not bad.  Unfortunately, most people would never be okay with that.  But I totally see what you mean.

[DarkSpiral]

An elven girl from Denerim named Amethyne.

I'm just going to toss that in to any discussion that I can.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Todd23 wrote...
Desire Demon.

And Broodmother. These two should be the only options for all characters.

[Tyareos]

A beatiful female elf rogue

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

ReconTeam wrote...

Todd23 wrote...
Desire Demon.

And Broodmother. These two should be the only options for all characters.

At the same time. Broodmother x Desire Demon x Inquisitor.

Then afterwards, the Broodmother and Desire Demon ought to get into a catfight over you. Judging from previous threads, I know BSN would approve of this development.

[Inquisitor Recon]

CrustyBot wrote...
At the same time. Broodmother x Desire Demon x Inquisitor.

Then afterwards, the Broodmother and Desire Demon ought to get into a catfight over you. Judging from previous threads, I know BSN would approve of this development.

Sounds great. This romance isn't optional either.

[esper]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Fiacre wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

The gifts weren't brought up to evaluate them, they were brought up in the context of DA2 being accused of having provided the player with I-Win romance buttons.

You don't have to take them because they're there, just like you don't have to spam gifts if your character wouldn't do so.

Well, you'll have to choose the flirt options to initiate the romance. How many do you have to choose btw? IIRC there's even an achievement for it, but I tend to flirt a lot with my intended LI anyway, so I'm not sure how much of it is required. And if the one you were flirting with was actually an LI, it *was* an I win button, for the most part. As I said before, there was more of a chance to screw it up in DA:O with things like telling Alistair that he's a naive fool after the Goldanna quest which cuts the romance off.

The flirt icon is actually one of the things I disliked most about the icons -- it was a lot more fun to have to think about what my LI would be receptive to, and a lot more interesting to have a character decide that I suck for being an ass and he isn't interested in a relationship with me any more, rather than have the broken heart icon (which, judging from paraphrases, was an outright rejection, anyway.)

I always refer to the Morrigan romance as one that would be difficult to do with DA2's system.

There is a point where Morrigan asks you about love and your thoughts on it. In order to continue the romance, you need to answer with a "romance is an illusion" or some such line. The incorrect answer, of saying love is important, will lower her approval and possibly end the romance.

Would the line saying love is an illusion be a heart icon? Would the one saying love is important be a heart break icon? Doesn't that seem... a little dichotomous? 

Later, Morrigan begs you to break up with her, that she can't take being in love with you anymore. If you say no, she stays in the relationship, but warns you that the consequences are not her doing. If you say yes, the relationship is over.

Would be saying no to save the relationship be a heart icon? An "X" or No icon? A "check" or Yes icon? You are saying no to her request, which means yes to the relationship. And vice versa.


I suppose the easy answer to all of that would be "Morrigan's romance would have been rewritten to make more sense with the given icons" but... if writing is beholden to the icon systems limitations, doesn't that mean that the icons themselves are potentially limiting story and (in the theme of this thread) romance outcomes?

It would be the Arrow wheel converteed to da2 style like Fenris romance. When Fenris is having doubt in da2 there is one of the arrow options that end the romance as surely as you had pressed a broken heart.

[Arcadian Legend]

ReconTeam wrote...

CrustyBot wrote...
At the same time. Broodmother x Desire Demon x Inquisitor.

Then afterwards, the Broodmother and Desire Demon ought to get into a catfight over you. Judging from previous threads, I know BSN would approve of this development.

Sounds great. This romance isn't optional either.

And front row seats for all.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Make the Inquisitors like Space Marines ... passionless.

[TheBlackBaron]

ReconTeam wrote...

CrustyBot wrote...
At the same time. Broodmother x Desire Demon x Inquisitor.

Then afterwards, the Broodmother and Desire Demon ought to get into a catfight over you. Judging from previous threads, I know BSN would approve of this development.

Sounds great. This romance isn't optional either.

But what if they're like those Desire Demons I told you about?

[Inquisitor Recon]

TheBlackBaron wrote...
But what if they're like those Desire Demons I told you about?

Then I cry myself to sleep.

[ObserverStatus]

ReconTeam wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...
But what if they're like those Desire Demons I told you about?

Then I cry myself to sleep.

why, what did he say?

[Zeta42]

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