OK, why did I write Reapers?
Protheans! I meant Protheans!!!
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Posté 09 mars 2013 - 10:06
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Also if Arcian wants something to boost the yahg empire forces, without new species I can suggest:
- Salarian lystheni offshoots (look like salarians but a bit meaner and with fangs, like Jaroth.)
- Batarian Renegades, that want to see the hegemony back in business and also revenge against the humans.
- Krogan Separatist Clans, still want to take a vengeance against the Citadel species for the genophage.
- Corrupted or criminal humans, turians, asari, shekhmu etc.
- Salarian lystheni offshoots (look like salarians but a bit meaner and with fangs, like Jaroth.)
- Batarian Renegades, that want to see the hegemony back in business and also revenge against the humans.
- Krogan Separatist Clans, still want to take a vengeance against the Citadel species for the genophage.
- Corrupted or criminal humans, turians, asari, shekhmu etc.
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Posté 09 mars 2013 - 10:42
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Basically, instead of a facility with actual living protheans in stasis, the population of an entire planet harvested and placed their reproductive cells in stasis for future protheans or primitives to find and use to bring their lineages back. After the war, a privately funded salarian expedition wanted to go hunting for other protheans in stasis with Javik. They found this planet and the frozen reproductive cells, and were able to breed a new generation of protheans from them.Mesina2 wrote...
How you'll resurrect Protheans?
Clones?
Originally I intended for Javik to serve as Councilor for these new protheans who had started a Second Empire with the Concord's blessing, but I changed that because I realized it was a bad idea and that it made no sense for the Concord to support Javik or the Second Empire when they both represented the old empire's ideals of enslaving and conquering lesser species, infringing upon the personal rights of its citizens and eliminating conquered cultures and replacing them with he empire's.
The "New Protheans" as they are called live in communities integrated into the homeworlds and colonies of the Concord species. Javik, who is still alive, is pretty pissed off because he believes the primitives are a bad influence on the new protheans. The primitives encourage them to do, think and accept things that were unacceptable back in his own cycle.
As Javik himself puts it, "I can see protheans speaking, but all I can hear are the words of primitives."
That said, there are those who want to follow Javik's and the old empire's ways. These same people are struggling to free themselves of the Concord and start a Second Empire with Javik as their emperor.
That's EXACTLY what I'm going for, actually.Armass81 wrote...
Also if Arcian wants something to boost the yahg empire forces, without new species I can suggest:
- Salarian lystheni offshoots (look like salarians but a bit meaner and with fangs, like Jaroth.)
- Batarian Renegades, that want to see the hegemony back in business and also revenge against the humans.
- Krogan Separatist Clans, still want to take a vengeance against the Citadel species for the genophage.
- Corrupted or criminal humans, turians, asari, shekhmu etc.
Though the batarian renegades are actually in the majority - very few batarians live on Khar'shan anymore. Officially, the batarians are part of the Yahg Empire and have taken one of the bigger batarian colonies of the former Terminus Systems as their new homeworld because Khar'shan has been claimed by the Concord.
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Posté 09 mars 2013 - 11:19
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Wait, why very few Batarians live on their own homeworld?
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Posté 09 mars 2013 - 11:34
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Smashed to bits by the Reapers. Balak lacked the funds to rebuild it and refused to accept help from the Concord, so he took his fleets and sought out less damaged batarian colonies in the Terminus Systems.Mesina2 wrote...
Wait, why very few Batarians live on their own homeworld?
EDIT: Rebuilding Khar'shan is still on the table, they only need to conquer the Concord first. And the Concord has done half the job already.
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Posté 09 mars 2013 - 11:50
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Billions of people don't just abandon a planet.
Especially a homeworld that is in liveable conditions.
It may be a wreck, but it's their wreck.
Especially a homeworld that is in liveable conditions.
It may be a wreck, but it's their wreck.
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Posté 09 mars 2013 - 11:59
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They haven't abandoned it. Most of the population is dead, however, all cities are in ruins and there is no government to speak of. The Leviathan of Dis ensured the planet was defenseless to the onslaught of the Reaper fleet, and since they had no interest in harvesting them, unlike the humans, they didn't give a crap about sparing its population or the population centers from destruction. We're talking orbital bombardment of everything with more than 10 square kilometers of settled areas. We've seen evidence of them doing it before, and Khar'shan is just a reminder of how destructive they are when they are not reaping a species.Mesina2 wrote...
Billions of people don't just abandon a planet.
Especially a homeworld that is in liveable conditions.
It may be a wreck, but it's their wreck.
The only way for Balak to restore Khar'shan would be to ask the Concord for help, and he'd rather die than do that. That's the kind of person he is and always have been.
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Posté 10 mars 2013 - 01:46
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Arcian wrote...
They haven't abandoned it. Most of the population is dead, however, all cities are in ruins and there is no government to speak of. The Leviathan of Dis ensured the planet was defenseless to the onslaught of the Reaper fleet, and since they had no interest in harvesting them, unlike the humans, they didn't give a crap about sparing its population or the population centers from destruction. We're talking orbital bombardment of everything with more than 10 square kilometers of settled areas. We've seen evidence of them doing it before, and Khar'shan is just a reminder of how destructive they are when they are not reaping a species.Mesina2 wrote...
Billions of people don't just abandon a planet.
Especially a homeworld that is in liveable conditions.
It may be a wreck, but it's their wreck.
The only way for Balak to restore Khar'shan would be to ask the Concord for help, and he'd rather die than do that. That's the kind of person he is and always have been.
Is Balaks grandson or something leading the Empire affiliated batarians? Was it ever mentioned how long batarians live on average?
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Posté 10 mars 2013 - 02:07
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Same as humans.
The yahg-batarians are led by the Imperial Directorate, which serves the Yahg Emperor.
The yahg-batarians are led by the Imperial Directorate, which serves the Yahg Emperor.
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Posté 10 mars 2013 - 02:13
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Can we get a nerdy, adorable male Prothean as a romance?
It may or may not be my fetish.
It may or may not be my fetish.
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Posté 10 mars 2013 - 11:41
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Arcian wrote...
That was oddly specific.Gemini Freak wrote...
Arcian wrote...
As for the uuu, I would have to ask Volc19 what he thinks is an appropriate use of them. I kept them in because I found the idea of a liquid species really interesting.
Don't know 'bout you, but if I have to face Uuu shaped like Banshees with power fists and wings, I'm outta here.
As far as I know, Banshees can only be worse with toys like that.
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Posté 10 mars 2013 - 01:37
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If you meant displacer gloves and cazadore wings, then I agree.Gemini Freak wrote...
Arcian wrote...
That was oddly specific.Gemini Freak wrote...
Arcian wrote...
As for the uuu, I would have to ask Volc19 what he thinks is an appropriate use of them. I kept them in because I found the idea of a liquid species really interesting.
Don't know 'bout you, but if I have to face Uuu shaped like Banshees with power fists and wings, I'm outta here.
As far as I know, Banshees can only be worse with toys like that.
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Posté 10 mars 2013 - 08:51
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Arcian wrote...
They haven't abandoned it. Most of the population is dead, however, all cities are in ruins and there is no government to speak of. The Leviathan of Dis ensured the planet was defenseless to the onslaught of the Reaper fleet, and since they had no interest in harvesting them, unlike the humans, they didn't give a crap about sparing its population or the population centers from destruction. We're talking orbital bombardment of everything with more than 10 square kilometers of settled areas. We've seen evidence of them doing it before, and Khar'shan is just a reminder of how destructive they are when they are not reaping a species.Mesina2 wrote...
Billions of people don't just abandon a planet.
Especially a homeworld that is in liveable conditions.
It may be a wreck, but it's their wreck.
The only way for Balak to restore Khar'shan would be to ask the Concord for help, and he'd rather die than do that. That's the kind of person he is and always have been.
If most of population is dea than it would actually be easier to fix the place.
I know this sounds dark, but due to that demand is much low so homeworld is way more self-sufficient.
Kar'Shan should have strong agriculture( it is a homeworld and I doubt there's heavy population on farming lands) and they can recycle old buildings for new ones.
And new governments can rise up. Just wouldn't be united on Kar'Shan, but more back to nation-states.
They just won't have any space military nor economic power any time soon.
And will probably need protection from pirate raids, so Yagh Empire can still be their protectors under arrangements Batarians answer to them.
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Posté 11 mars 2013 - 03:40
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Are Blue Suns, Eclipse and Bloodpack still around? I know you got rid of them in the timeline, but was wondering if you changed that. I noticed you had some new private security firms like the Ironwatch?
If you want some new PMCs for the story, one that I tough would be present in the free systems and Citadel space now is the Sunclaws, its a shekhmu started PMC, a branch of their military that went galactic and private and also started to hire aliens (humans, turians, batarians, krogan etc) into their ranks. Mostly legitimate, tough some sections are into some criminal stuff like the Eclipse was.
Other PMCs in Citadel space could be a turian-human dominated one called the Sons of Aurora. I have couple of suggestions for Yahg empire or terminus systems as well. Brotherhood of Vengeance could be a batarian terrorist organization thats targeting Citadel species, especially humans. Star Renders could be a criminal Krogan-Mhorclai-Vorcha group similar to Bloodpack.
If you want some new PMCs for the story, one that I tough would be present in the free systems and Citadel space now is the Sunclaws, its a shekhmu started PMC, a branch of their military that went galactic and private and also started to hire aliens (humans, turians, batarians, krogan etc) into their ranks. Mostly legitimate, tough some sections are into some criminal stuff like the Eclipse was.
Other PMCs in Citadel space could be a turian-human dominated one called the Sons of Aurora. I have couple of suggestions for Yahg empire or terminus systems as well. Brotherhood of Vengeance could be a batarian terrorist organization thats targeting Citadel species, especially humans. Star Renders could be a criminal Krogan-Mhorclai-Vorcha group similar to Bloodpack.
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Posté 11 mars 2013 - 04:35
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The Blue Suns, Eclipse and Bloodpack were destroyed by the yahg in their conquest of the Terminus Systems. Though it was less "destroyed" and more "absorbed". The merc groups themselves no longer exist.
Ironwatch is the security firm founded by Mare-Branda-Tybris to protect colonies and relays underway of being rebuilt. Mare-Branda-Tybris (shortened MBT) is a business conglomerate in charge of restoring the war-ravaged Citadel territories and relays. By the time ME4 takes place, they own almost 70% of the Concord's private sector.
He had the choice of bending his knee to the Concord and have them rebuild Khar'shan at record pace, or leave the planet behind, find a new homeworld and have his descendants return as conquerors and take back a presumably rebuilt Khar'shan by force.
Balak chose the latter because he'd sooner die than submit to Concord rule.
Ironwatch is the security firm founded by Mare-Branda-Tybris to protect colonies and relays underway of being rebuilt. Mare-Branda-Tybris (shortened MBT) is a business conglomerate in charge of restoring the war-ravaged Citadel territories and relays. By the time ME4 takes place, they own almost 70% of the Concord's private sector.
Yeah, well, that's kind of the point. Balak doesn't want to have to deal with this. And the longer the restoration of Khar'shan takes, the more powerful the Concord will grow and the more it will impose itself on Khar'shan. It's already happened, as Khar'shan is under the care of the Concord.Mesina2 wrote...
If most of population is dea than it would actually be easier to fix the place.
I know this sounds dark, but due to that demand is much low so homeworld is way more self-sufficient.Kar'Shan should have strong agriculture( it is a homeworld and I doubt there's heavy population on farming lands) and they can recycle old buildings for new ones.
And new governments can rise up. Just wouldn't be united on Kar'Shan, but more back to nation-states.
They just won't have any space military nor economic power any time soon.
He had the choice of bending his knee to the Concord and have them rebuild Khar'shan at record pace, or leave the planet behind, find a new homeworld and have his descendants return as conquerors and take back a presumably rebuilt Khar'shan by force.
Balak chose the latter because he'd sooner die than submit to Concord rule.
How do you suppose they would do that when Khar'shan is smack dab in Concord space?Mesina2 wrote...
And will probably need protection from pirate raids, so Yagh Empire can still be their protectors under arrangements Batarians answer to them.
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Posté 11 mars 2013 - 08:43
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Are there any batarians still living on Khar'shan, or in the Concord? The krogan are likely still part of the Concord as the canonical Shepard seems to have been a paragon that cured the genophage, but are the Wreav-like krogan following the yahg?
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Posté 12 mars 2013 - 07:28
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There's no canonical Shepard. The Praetor trilogy does not use import flags except Shepard's appearance and LI. Missing half of the species because Shep killed them would make for a boring post-Renegade galaxy and would diminish the role of said species in the post-Paragon galaxy. It would also prevent you from playing them and having them as squadmates. So surely you understand why I am canonizing their survival no matter what.Charcolt wrote...
Are there any batarians still living on Khar'shan, or in the Concord? The krogan are likely still part of the Concord as the canonical Shepard seems to have been a paragon that cured the genophage, but are the Wreav-like krogan following the yahg?
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Posté 12 mars 2013 - 07:29
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And yes, there are Concord-aligned batarians and Empire-aligned krogan.
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Posté 12 mars 2013 - 04:32
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This is like Mass Effect meets Fallout, gameplay-wise.
I'm okay with this.
It'd be nice if we could meet Liara doing something as well, since I'm pretty sure Wrex and Samara will be dead by then.
I'm okay with this.
It'd be nice if we could meet Liara doing something as well, since I'm pretty sure Wrex and Samara will be dead by then.
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Posté 12 mars 2013 - 06:50
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Samara, probably yes. She was close to 1000 by ME2/ME3.Nyxeris wrote...
This is like Mass Effect meets Fallout, gameplay-wise.
I'm okay with this.
It'd be nice if we could meet Liara doing something as well, since I'm pretty sure Wrex and Samara will be dead by then.
Wrex, I'm not so sure about. He's around 700 in ME3 based on his dialogue in the Citadel DLC and is still going pretty strong. Okeer was a veteran of the Krogan Rebellions, which would make him over 1400 years old, and even he was pretty spry for his age. I think krogan simply don't die from old age, they're either eaten, murdered or die in violent accidents both natural and manmade.
Liara is still working as Shadow Broker for the Concord. The Yahg Empire has their own Shadow Broker, Kechlu, who is something of an enigma and who gave the yahg the knowledge to build FTL drives and other advanced technologies, allowing them to rapidly take over the entire Terminus Systems. He claims to be the Shadow Broker Liara and Shepard allegedly killed, but as we all know, it's kind of difficult to come back from being vaporized. So Liara's job is discovering who Kechlu really is, what he's up to and how he helped bring about the Yahg Empire. Some believe he is the mysterious Yahg Emperor, who is never seen in public and always acts through imperial agents.
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Posté 13 mars 2013 - 11:07
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So, is there a Zoe to Praetor's Mal, or any fellow veterans of Mathos and Vecchal on the Iapetus? It seems like the massive military crew and squad you planned doesn't really fit a Serenity-style independent ship.
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Posté 14 mars 2013 - 12:03
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Captain Kendal Gadris of the now former Army of Mathos serves a similar role to Zoe in terms of being war buddies with Praetor, with the exception that she's above Praetor in rank. Or well, used to be, but that doesn't stop Praetor from calling her sir.
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Posté 14 mars 2013 - 09:01
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Really good but i would throw The Cataclyst out from window and not even mention it in this game.
Anyway damn good job and customization just makes me wanna get this game.
Anyway damn good job and customization just makes me wanna get this game.
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Posté 14 mars 2013 - 11:37
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The Catalyst has been retconned from a god-child AI to a non-intelligent machine part used by the Citadel to communicate with the Relay Network. The Catalyst is what allows energy and information to be transmitted from the Citadel to the Relays.
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Posté 14 mars 2013 - 12:21
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Sounds great!
But I don't seem to really get it.
What is this project exactly about? Is it an interactive story?
Do you plan on making a game by yourself? O.o
I am really sorry, but I don't really get it ^^
But I don't seem to really get it.
What is this project exactly about? Is it an interactive story?
Do you plan on making a game by yourself? O.o
I am really sorry, but I don't really get it ^^
