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[xSTONEYx187x]

^^^

No need to defend Geralt and his sexual adventures, this is BSN, not like they can use that against us fans of the series, this is the place were romance (who I can sex) threads get the most responses.



I'll never forget the ending of TW2, having a brewski with my adversary, catching up on old times, and then sparing his life and watching him walk off into the dusk.

Didn't see that being an option whatsoever and it put a big smile on my face, knowing I could spare Letho after what he'd told me.

[wolfsite]

palker wrote...

wolfsite wrote...

CrustyBot wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

CDPR focuses on plot, Bioware focuses on characters.

Yet CDPR does both better.

*inb4 rage about how I'm wrong*

I have to disagree, Geralt, though created by someone else I do understand, is a character I hate more than anything.  It's hard to play such a flat character that is unable to express any emotion and seems to not care about anything around him.  I played Witcher 1 from beginning to end and even when you try to get him to be close to a character he's just so lifeless.

Got turned off by the Witcher 2 when they let you import your Witcher 1 save then ignore everything you did.  For those who complain about forced narative they obviously ignore this since it makes playing Witcher 1 pointless and also made it felt like you will be forced down a specific path no matter what you choose.

You do not even know how wrong you are. If you read the books you would understand Geralts character and his motivations and you would know that the emotionless mutant attitude is just a front

I'm not wrong, I have an opinion based on a complete playthrough of the game.  If the books were Required reading for context of the game they should have put that right on the box.  We can agree to disagree but you just can't say I'm wrong because I had a different experience.

[Alpha-Centuri]

*spoilers from one of my playthroughs*

-I helped Malena, and spared her.
-I saved the Elven women at the expense of letting Loredo go. (I wasn't going to sacrifice them for someone whose plan had been outed. Revenge can come later, and I'm sure Temeria will kill him eventually)
-I sided with the succubus
-I went to save Triss.
-I helped Phillipa and didn't have sex with her after.
I didn't sleep with prostitutes.

Now how is this Geralt misogynistic? And even if you chose alternatively to me, how is he misogynistic?

This is akinned to saying the Dragonborn is a psychopathic slayer of innocents because you choose to massacre the entire city of Falkreath. The character is only that because YOU played and roleplayed him or her that way.

As to the intelligence of the women?

Triss: She has been playing you (quite well I might add) since TW1. Not to mention taking full advantage of your amnesia by leading Geralt to believe that she is the one that he was in love with, not Yennifer. Very manipulative, and pays off in TW2 when you have the choice to go through hell and high water to search for her. She is also a very capable sorceress who is independent of Geralt's whims (obviously). She is her own woman and has her own goals and schemes.

Saskia: Highly capable, very successful, and a woman of virtue. Has rallied the forces of the Pontar Valley to her although she is not a noble. Has the respect of the people and is one of the single strongest female characters in gaming. She is more of a warrior than a chessmaster, but is certainly not stupid (albeit maybe a little naive)

I'm not going to list every named female character, but how are any of them dumber than the male characters?

[slimgrin]

EntropicAngel wrote...


Anime?

 Now you really have lost all credibility.

[Nerevar-as]

EntropicAngel wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

 Now you really have lost all credibility.

Now, if I were one of them (renegades), this is where I'd make a comment about anime having inappropriate focuses (which they often do with a certain other topic).

I'm being nice here, because I'm not.

That would be like saying movies (in general) have innappropriate focuses. Anime is a media, not a genre.

[hangmans tree]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

That would be like saying movies (in general) have innappropriate focuses. Anime is a media, not a genre.

...?

Not really, but okay...

Not really? Anime - animated movie, can be divided into genres and subgenres... like manga aka comic books. Like movies. Or books.
Are you kidding? 'Coz right now "not sure if serious" but probably a troll.

[The Heretic of Time]

EntropicAngel wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

Not really? Anime - animated movie, can be divided into genres and subgenres... like manga aka comic books. Like movies. Or books.
Are you kidding? 'Coz right now "not sure if serious" but probably a troll.

Yes. Not really. Because Anime has a specific style.

(And really, find me a definition that doesn't mention this)

Anime is Japanese animation, nothing more. There are plenty of different styles within anime.

[slimgrin]

EntropicAngel wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

Not really? Anime - animated movie, can be divided into genres and subgenres... like manga aka comic books. Like movies. Or books.
Are you kidding? 'Coz right now "not sure if serious" but probably a troll.

Yes. Not really. Because Anime has a specific style.

(And really, find me a definition that doesn't mention this)

O_o What? Are you even serious?  Off topic anyway. Mods should just merge this mess with The Witcher 2 thread and let people who actually like the game talk about it.

[Seboist]

Death_Acolyte wrote...

Persona 3 and Persona 4 are JRPG's. They have a few anime cutscenes but yeah.

Persona 4 is also an example of a genuine "character driven story" where the struggles of the characters are part of the actual story and not a bunch of inane daddy issues that have nothing to do with anything as in ME2's case.

Also, the romances in those two games serve some gameplay purpose and not tacked crap fanservice(Mitsuru Kirijo > all LI in ME).

[slimgrin]

EntropicAngel wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

O_o What? Are you even serious?  Off topic anyway. Mods should just merge this mess with The Witcher 2 thread and let people who actually like the game talk about it.

Hey, you started it.

And I agree. So I'll stop talking.

Do they ever merge threads anyway?

No, they usually just shut threads down from what I see. Makes no sense.

[Cutlass Jack]

Seboist wrote...

Persona 4 is also an example of a genuine "character driven story" where the struggles of the characters are part of the actual story and not a bunch of inane daddy issues that have nothing to do with anything as in ME2's case.

But but Nanako had daddy issues...he was always working those stupid murder cases instead of taking her to Junes!

[Seboist]

Nanako's a sweetheart, I give her a pass on that and unlike with Vent brat in ME3 if something bad had happened to her then sh!t would've gotten real.

[fchopin]

Alpha-Centuri wrote...

*spoilers from one of my playthroughs*

-I helped Malena, and spared her.
-I saved the Elven women at the expense of letting Loredo go. (I wasn't going to sacrifice them for someone whose plan had been outed. Revenge can come later, and I'm sure Temeria will kill him eventually)
-I sided with the succubus
-I went to save Triss.
-I helped Phillipa and didn't have sex with her after.
I didn't sleep with prostitutes.

Now how is this Geralt misogynistic? And even if you chose alternatively to me, how is he misogynistic?

This is akinned to saying the Dragonborn is a psychopathic slayer of innocents because you choose to massacre the entire city of Falkreath. The character is only that because YOU played and roleplayed him or her that way.

As to the intelligence of the women?

Triss: She has been playing you (quite well I might add) since TW1. Not to mention taking full advantage of your amnesia by leading Geralt to believe that she is the one that he was in love with, not Yennifer. Very manipulative, and pays off in TW2 when you have the choice to go through hell and high water to search for her. She is also a very capable sorceress who is independent of Geralt's whims (obviously). She is her own woman and has her own goals and schemes.

Saskia: Highly capable, very successful, and a woman of virtue. Has rallied the forces of the Pontar Valley to her although she is not a noble. Has the respect of the people and is one of the single strongest female characters in gaming. She is more of a warrior than a chessmaster, but is certainly not stupid (albeit maybe a little naive)

I'm not going to list every named female character, but how are any of them dumber than the male characters?

I can see you enjoyed your game, people forget that what the character becomes is according to what choices you pick and what the developers allows. Nothing different from DAO really.
 
 
It just goes to show that whatever you do in life some people will call you an idiot even if you are a saint.

[Khayness]

Seboist wrote...

Persona 4 is also an example of a genuine "character driven story" where the struggles of the characters are part of the actual story and not a bunch of inane daddy issues that have nothing to do with anything as in ME2's case.

Have you reached any Social Links past Rank 5?

I know the themes of finding your true self is really important in the games, but still, damn.

[IntoTheDarkness]

I've just come to realize something.

Yes, I hate ME3. I think it's childish and the story quality, even putting the endings aside, is ****ty to talk it up. But there is no other recently released RPG I would rate above ME3 or even DA2 besides the Witcher 2.

I have to face the fact that ME3 and DA2 are among the finest recent RPG games, whether I dislike them or not. Old RPG genre(excluding sandbox RPG like Skyrim) is pretty much dead, or at least there are too few titles to come any near to the number of FPS and TPS games.

I guess I am constrained to believe that ME3 and DA2 are the epitome of RPG genre and their storytelling is flawless because otherwise I won't be able to enjoy any RPG until the Witcher 3 comes out.

So... Hooray, long live Bioware! DA2 is the best RPG game!

[slimgrin]

DA2 was rushed EA drivel. ME3 was an abortion. Both of them failed. I look to Bethesda, Larian, and CDPR for RPG's now. A safe bet there.

[KnightofPhoenix]

IntoTheDarkness wrote...
Yes, I hate ME3. I think it's childish and the story quality, even putting the endings aside, is ****ty to talk it up. But there is no other recently released RPG I would rate above ME3 or even DA2 besides the Witcher 2.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution?
I personally, vastly prefer it over DA2 or ME3.

Also if you haven't tried it already, go for Alpha Protocol.