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[rolson00]

 RIP Jacintha Saldanha sympathies to the family 

link here for those of you who don't know a tragic example of why you think before you act
edit dont read if you dont want to be bummed out

[legion999]

Was it suicide? Or is it just the media jumping to conclusions?

[rolson00]

they think its suicide at this point guess we'll know for sure pretty soon as the world has their eyes on this if you read twitter peeps from all over the globe were giving the presenters a piece their mind. but that aside nurses work brutile hours in every country add that being made fun of for the whole world to see..who knows if you push the right button anyone can go over the edge i guess.

[Swagger7]

legion999 wrote...

Was it suicide? Or is it just the media jumping to conclusions?

No reason it can't be both.  The police consider the death "unexplained" at this time, and said that there isn't reason to think of it as suspicious yet.  So yes, the media definitely are jumping to conclusions.  It's still possible that she did commit suicide, but calling that likely without evidence is very irresponsible on the media's part.

[slimgrin]

Yeah the reporting for this has gone off the rails. We need more facts, but I see too much blame coming down on the pranksters over this.

[rolson00]

very true slimgrin but even before the prank they were pranking a hospital the main host apologized to the nurse and royals in a statment before the tragic death.

[Brockololly]

slimgrin wrote...

Yeah the reporting for this has gone off the rails. We need more facts, but I see too much blame coming down on the pranksters over this.

I don't know... its a total **** thing to prank medical professionals or emergency personel. You just don't do that.

[slimgrin]

Brockololly wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Yeah the reporting for this has gone off the rails. We need more facts, but I see too much blame coming down on the pranksters over this.

I don't know... its a total **** thing to prank medical professionals or emergency personel. You just don't do that.

Well they should be punished, I'm not denying they crossed the line. But they are in no way responsible for her death.

[Naughty Bear]

slimgrin wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Yeah the reporting for this has gone off the rails. We need more facts, but I see too much blame coming down on the pranksters over this.

I don't know... its a total **** thing to prank medical professionals or emergency personel. You just don't do that.

Well they should be punished, I'm not denying they crossed the line. But they are in no way responsible for her death.

She was globally humiliated, that would surely push someone to suicide, and it was just a coincidence that she died a day later after the incident? Please.

But I agree with other members, a more thorough search into the womans background history should uncover something. Working in a hospital is stressful.

She also made a big mistake releasing private information on the phone to practically strangers, this could of caused problems. So I suspect this nurse was under a lot of pressure from her bosses, adding onto the fact of a stressful job and then her global humiliation isjust one hammer blow after another.

Anyhow, R.I.P Such a shame, just before christmas as well.

Modifié par Naughty Bear, 07 décembre 2012 - 10:54 .

[Ninja Stan]

Let's keep the rampant speculation and blaming down to a respectful level, if you wish this thread to remain open.

[bmwcrazy]

Well, that escalated quickly.

[Maria Caliban]

That's ****ing tragic.

[slimgrin]

Naughty Bear wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Yeah the reporting for this has gone off the rails. We need more facts, but I see too much blame coming down on the pranksters over this.

I don't know... its a total **** thing to prank medical professionals or emergency personel. You just don't do that.

Well they should be punished, I'm not denying they crossed the line. But they are in no way responsible for her death.

She was globally humiliated, that would surely push someone to suicide, and it was just a coincidence that she died a day later after the incident? Please.

But I agree with other members, a more thorough search into the womans background history should uncover something. Working in a hospital is stressful.

She also made a big mistake releasing private information on the phone to practically strangers, this could of caused problems. So I suspect this nurse was under a lot of pressure from her bosses, adding onto the fact of a stressful job and then her global humiliation isjust one hammer blow after another.

Anyhow, R.I.P Such a shame, just before christmas as well.

In my mind, the hospital needs to beef up their protocol. The pranksters had no hand in her death. It was her doing, or some other cause. You can't tell me the that British royalty isn't used to this type of thing.

[deuce985]

Wow...

[Wolfspawn]

The link doesn't work for me.

[Orian Tabris]

In all honesty, I don't see how her being put into that situation, would result in her committing suicide.

There must have been a real reason for her to want to commit suicide, and being prank phone-called by someone pretending to be the queen, is not a reason! She didn't get into trouble - she assumed it actually was the queen, herself, and went along with it, never overstepping her bounds. The focus was on the radio announcers being the ones in trouble, as they were the ones who breached the hospital's security and falsified the royal family. No one pointed the finger at her for wrongdoing.

The only way I can see her killing herself, is if she was already feeling the effects of depression, and that the major news story around the world had to have pushed her to the brink (or the anxiety of serving the royal family). If she was in fact depressed, as a nurse working at a hospital specifically chosen by the queen, herself, as the designated hopsital for royalty, they are in serious need of not only overviewing their security protocalls, but their staff (both their physical and mental well-being, and their qualifications) as well!

[Pzykozis]

slimgrin wrote...

Naughty Bear wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Yeah the reporting for this has gone off the rails. We need more facts, but I see too much blame coming down on the pranksters over this.

I don't know... its a total **** thing to prank medical professionals or emergency personel. You just don't do that.

Well they should be punished, I'm not denying they crossed the line. But they are in no way responsible for her death.

She was globally humiliated, that would surely push someone to suicide, and it was just a coincidence that she died a day later after the incident? Please.

But I agree with other members, a more thorough search into the womans background history should uncover something. Working in a hospital is stressful.

She also made a big mistake releasing private information on the phone to practically strangers, this could of caused problems. So I suspect this nurse was under a lot of pressure from her bosses, adding onto the fact of a stressful job and then her global humiliation isjust one hammer blow after another.

Anyhow, R.I.P Such a shame, just before christmas as well.

In my mind, the hospital needs to beef up their protocol. The pranksters had no hand in her death. It was her doing, or some other cause. You can't tell me the that British royalty isn't used to this type of thing.

Well as far as I know duke and duchess both said it was fine and expressed no ill will towards the hospital or the nurses.. (as is being reported on national tv) she also wasn't being punished by the hospital either. It is also worth noting Jacintha wasn't the woman who gave out the information, she accepted the call was taken in by the hoax and passed it on to another nurse that divulged the info.

I wouldn't blame the pranksters (though they did illegally gain access to confidential information) so much so the media which in light of the leveson inquiry just coming out you'd think they'd be abit more low key but there you go.

[slimgrin]

Pzykozis wrote...

 she accepted the call was taken in by the hoax and passed it on to another nurse that divulged the info.

Well, then there's zero accountability or protection measures at the hospital. I guess I don't really see what super secret info could have been divulged anyway, or why it matters. I mean so what, she's pregnant and in the hospital. Not dying. 

"Oh my gods, she threw up...CALL GOD! He needs to do something about this!"

Modifié par slimgrin, 08 décembre 2012 - 03:42 .

[Hyperglide]

She was probably asassinated. Feigned suicides can be done easily.

Modifié par Hyperglide, 08 décembre 2012 - 03:46 .

[Pzykozis]

slimgrin wrote...

Pzykozis wrote...

 she accepted the call was taken in by the hoax and passed it on to another nurse that divulged the info.

Well, then there's zero accountability or protection measures at the hospital. I guess I don't really see what super secret info could have been divulged anyway, or why it matters. I mean so what, she pregnant and in the hospital. Not dying. 

"Oh my gods, she threw up...CALL GOD! He needs to do something about this!"

Well any and all medical info is confidential and so protected legally, not to mention that blagging is illegal as is impersonation of the queen in general, technically the dj's should be fairly up **** creek but since they've already been taken off the air supposedly and seem to be apologising constantly i doubt anything much will be made. Not the mention that the duke and duchess are acting like honey badgers right now, not 1 f was given etc.

The call should have been taken and screened by a secretary but unfortunately one wasn't present at the time which is why the nurse took it. an unlucky turn of events that's led to a tragic outcome. Still King Edward 7 Hospital is seemingly lax with its protocols for saying its prestige.

[Brockololly]

slimgrin wrote...
In my mind, the hospital needs to beef up their protocol. The pranksters had no hand in her death. It was her doing, or some other cause. You can't tell me the that British royalty isn't used to this type of thing.

But you can't waste the time of medical/emergency workers with stupid prank calls. Apparently this nurse only picked up the phone because the receptionist wasn't there, but even still maybe the nurse could have been needed elsewhere for something critical.

Sure, it seems likely that the lady may have had other issues going on, so you can't blame the DJs, but if you want to prank call somebody don't do it to a damn hospital where people's lives and private medical information are at stake. You can absolutely blame those DJs for being deceitful and impersonating someone in an attempt to access private medical information. Nurses and hospital workers are often under enough stress as is, they don't need trogolodyte DJs making their jobs any harder or making them compromise their medical licenses over a prank.

slimgrin wrote...
Well, then there's zero accountability or protection measures at the  hospital. I guess I don't really see what super secret info could have  been divulged anyway, or why it matters. I mean so what, she's pregnant  and in the hospital. Not dying. 

"Oh my gods, she threw up...CALL GOD! He needs to do something about this!"

Its not so much in this case what info was divulged, but at least in the US, divulging personal medical info is a serious situation legally. And for someone to mislead somebody into trying to access medical info would put that medical professional in deep **** not only with their employer but probably put their license at risk, if they're a nurse, doctor, pharmacist or any other licensed medical professional. All because somebody was wasting their time with a prank call. Thats stress thats not needed when you're dealing with life/death stuff as is.

Modifié par Brockololly, 08 décembre 2012 - 03:58 .

[slimgrin]

Brockololly wrote...

slimgrin wrote...
In my mind, the hospital needs to beef up their protocol. The pranksters had no hand in her death. It was her doing, or some other cause. You can't tell me the that British royalty isn't used to this type of thing.

But you can't waste the time of medical/emergency workers with stupid prank calls. Apparently this nurse only picked up the phone because the receptionist wasn't there, but even still maybe the nurse could have been needed elsewhere for something critical.

Sure, it seems likely that the lady may have had other issues going on, so you can't blame the DJs, but if you want to prank call somebody don't do it to a damn hospital where people's lives and private medical information are at stake. You can absolutely blame those DJs for being deceitful and impersonating someone in an attempt to access private medical information. Nurses and hospital workers are often under enough stress as is, they don't need trogolodyte DJs making their jobs any harder or making them compromise their medical licenses over a prank.

I'm just saying this is what people will do. I'm not endorsing it. This is the royal family we are talking about. The hospital had no specific protocol? No additional security measures? Someone impersonating the queen got patched through? That is the hospital's fault, and quite frankly it's a joke they were succesful.

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Hyperglide wrote...

She was probably asassinated.

Totally, just like they did with Diana.


Seriously though have they actually revealed the details of her death? All I am reading is that it was a suicide but not the method of which she used to commit suicide.

Modifié par Mr Mxyzptlk, 08 décembre 2012 - 04:14 .

[Pzykozis]

Mr Mxyzptlk wrote...

Hyperglide wrote...

She was probably asassinated.

Totally, just like they did with Diana.


Seriously though have they actually revealed the details of her death? All I am reading is that it was a suicide but not the method of which she used to commit suicide.

Well she was found this morning so there'll be an inquest into her death first to find the cause of death and then to clear up the situation which is abit clouded at the moment. Suicide is being hinted at only by the media, Police at this point have only said that it's not being treated as suspicious.

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Pzykozis wrote...

Mr Mxyzptlk wrote...

Hyperglide wrote...

She was probably asassinated.

Totally, just like they did with Diana.


Seriously though have they actually revealed the details of her death? All I am reading is that it was a suicide but not the method of which she used to commit suicide.

Well she was found this morning so there'll be an inquest into her death first to find the cause of death and then to clear up the situation which is abit clouded at the moment. Suicide is being hinted at only by the media, Police at this point have only said that it's not being treated as suspicious.

They would say that the faithful monarchist dogs.