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[Dragoonlordz]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

It's interesting to note that BW never described ME3 as an RPG. Look at the official site. Instead it's called an "action game with an interactive story" and an "action-shooter game". The term RPG is nowhere to be found. I wonder if the site will be changed now that it won the prize. Anyway... The devs must be glad with that prize, though. Congrats.

I can call an apple an orange but calling it something else does not make it so.

The difference is that I am not calling it, but instead the developers of the game do not describe it as an RPG. That means it wasn't their intention to make ME3 an RPG.

Developer didn't say that, publisher did. One that you did not believe when relating to PR for DA2, yet yet magically believe when comes to ME3 PR.

For all intents and purposes BW and EA are the same company. BW as an independent company has died because of that. Also, as you know marketing and monetizing are an integral part of the dev team. Everything you see in public was dreamed up by that team. So do not point to EA when it fits your agenda.

What EA writes on it's store page like Origin or press release is not required for Bioware to agree with or give the go ahead for. Bioware has very little if any say on how EA advertises their game, it does have say on what press releases itself puts out but not what EA puts out. EA has some influence on the game design (though the difference between what people on here think they do or have is different to reality of what they actually effect) but as they are the ones paying for it's creation they do have some right to some influence though unknown as it may be longer deadlines would be much appreciated by me. Bioware however does not have that same power over what EA does. You can blame Bioware for everything EA does if you wish but it's not accurate what you accuse them of such as how much control and input you "think" Bioware has over EA's PR. Each has different roles and responsabilities. They are not both accountable for everything each other does.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 08 décembre 2012 - 08:26 .

[Dragoonlordz]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Irony is that for you who says dislike action mode also has contempt for them saying something like too videogamey when action mode is more videogamey for many people.

Never said i didnt like action mode did i...........your implying again like last time you bored me with whatever it is you spout......

Now your just outright lying.

ME1/2 no action mode, ME3 action mode....nothing to do with story mode, action mode in itself is ridiculous when ME was about choices and story not action/combat, DD was an action based combat RPG and sold itself as that unlike ME which is the best RPG around apparantly yet i think it's the worst of the 3 and worst game of the year.......

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 08 décembre 2012 - 07:59 .

[devSin]

Congratulations to the team. I don't know that it's the result they were hoping for or that there weren't better RPGs out there this year, but a lot of the people on the team deserve accolades regardless, and it's nice to see them get some recognition.

Modifié par devSin, 08 décembre 2012 - 08:17 .

[element eater]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Skyrim is barely, only barely an RPG.

what are you talking about? i cant even tell if your being serious or not

any way on topic, while i wasnt fond of me3 on the whole. well done to the team regardless, hopefuly they can make up for the dissapointment in the future

[clarkusdarkus]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Irony is that for you who says dislike action mode also has contempt for them saying something like too videogamey when action mode is more videogamey for many people.

Never said i didnt like action mode did i...........your implying again like last time you bored me with whatever it is you spout......

Now your just outright lying.

ME1/2 no action mode, ME3 action mode....nothing to do with story mode, action mode in itself is ridiculous when ME was about choices and story not action/combat, DD was an action based combat RPG and sold itself as that unlike ME which is the best RPG around apparantly yet i think it's the worst of the 3 and worst game of the year.......

Whoa now chief seems your reading what u want to read..........ME3 having an option for action mode is ridiculous considering ME1/2 didnt have it................now what part of that is me saying i didnt like it? it's out of place and doesnt belong in ME.....

[Dragoonlordz]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Whoa now chief seems your reading what u want to read..........ME3 having an option for action mode is ridiculous considering ME1/2 didnt have it................now what part of that is me saying i didnt like it? it's out of place and doesnt belong in ME.....

Who you trying to fool? You did not like it in ME franchise because you feel does not belong in it, you said so yourself. You also said you did not like them saying "too videogamey", when in reality action mode is for many more videogamey than the other modes. You hate that ME had a videogamey mode yet also hate that they said did not want something because was too videogamey. Make up your mind.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 08 décembre 2012 - 08:11 .

[The Aesthetic Ghant]

Good for Bioware.

It's nice to know that the cesspool that is BSN doesn't reach as far as they thought.



Carry on, whining and b*tching.

[clarkusdarkus]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Whoa now chief seems your reading what u want to read..........ME3 having an option for action mode is ridiculous considering ME1/2 didnt have it................now what part of that is me saying i didnt like it? it's out of place and doesnt belong in ME.....

Who you trying to fool? You did not like it in ME franchise because you feel does not belong in it, you said so yourself. You also said you did not like them saying "too videogamey", when in reality action mode is for many more videogamey than the other modes. You hate that ME had a videogamey mode yet also hate that they said did not want something because was too videogamey. Make up your mind.

that is such a stretch 

[I am Sovereign]

Nice job paying off the VGAs, BiowarEA.

[CroGamer002]

ME3's competition on that category is:

Diablo 3.
Game that flopped with fans.

Torchlight 2 and Xenoblade.
Who heard of those games before?



So yeah, ME3 was having no real competition.


But I am pissed that ME3 didn't even got nomination for the Best Original Score.
Soundtrack in ME3 is amazing and deserved, not only nomination, but a win as well.

Modifié par Mesina2, 08 décembre 2012 - 08:51 .

[spirosz]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Skyrim is barely, only barely an RPG.

I've RP'ed about 5-6 different types of protagonists with a whole story to them.  Sure, my actions don't reflect on the story, minor at best (dialogue changes) in a way, like The Witcher, but I will still consider this game an RPG in an open-world setting, which I love.  It doesn't need "stats" to be an RPG for me.  

[spirosz]

Mesina2 wrote...

ME3's competition on that category is:

Diablo 3.
Game that flopped with fans.

Torchlight 2 and Xenoblade.
Who heard of those games before?



So yeah, ME3 was having no real competition.


But I am pissed that ME3 didn't even got nomination for the Best Original Score.
Soundtrack in ME3 is amazing and deserved, not only nomination, but a win as well.

Torchlight 2 is pretty popular, but it's basically a better Diablo, which both aren't RPG's, lol.  

[Nerevar-as]

EntropicAngel wrote...

spirosz wrote...

I've RP'ed about 5-6 different types of protagonists with a whole story to them.  Sure, my actions don't reflect on the story, minor at best (dialogue changes) in a way, like The Witcher, but I will still consider this game an RPG in an open-world setting, which I love.  It doesn't need "stats" to be an RPG for me.  

I'm not talking about stats--which it has--but the fact that there is almost no choice in the game.

A recent analogy I made was a dungeon with two tunnels, and a dungeon with a huge cavern the size of both tunnels.

The first dungeon defines the character. The second doesn't.

Funny analogue considering early cRPGs were dungeon crawlers.

[spirosz]

EntropicAngel wrote...

spirosz wrote...

I've RP'ed about 5-6 different types of protagonists with a whole story to them.  Sure, my actions don't reflect on the story, minor at best (dialogue changes) in a way, like The Witcher, but I will still consider this game an RPG in an open-world setting, which I love.  It doesn't need "stats" to be an RPG for me.  

I'm not talking about stats--which it has--but the fact that there is almost no choice in the game.

A recent analogy I made was a dungeon with two tunnels, and a dungeon with a huge cavern the size of both tunnels.

The first dungeon defines the character. The second doesn't.

And by choices you mean, by story/ impact on story?  You choose how your character looks, you can get different dialogue choices, you choose how to fight, which quests to do, etc.  

[Someone With Mass]

spirosz wrote...

Torchlight 2 is pretty popular, but it's basically a better Diablo, which both aren't RPG's, lol.  

Then again, ME3 isn't much of an RPG either.

If it had been out last year, then it would have fallen in the shadow of Deus Ex: Human Revolution without a doubt in my mind.

[spirosz]

Someone With Mass wrote...

spirosz wrote...

Torchlight 2 is pretty popular, but it's basically a better Diablo, which both aren't RPG's, lol.  

Then again, ME3 isn't much of an RPG either.

If it had been out last year, then it would have fallen in the shadow of Deus Ex: Human Revolution without a doubt in my mind.

ME series has always been a true hybrid in my perspective.  ME1 being more heavily influenced in the RPG sense (stats, inventory, etc), ME2 more heavily focused on action, gameplay, etc, and ME3 trying to strike that balance (which it didn't achieve for me, personally).  

[spirosz]

EntropicAngel wrote...

spirosz wrote...



And by choices you mean, by story/ impact on story?  You choose how your character looks, you can get different dialogue choices, you choose how to fight, which quests to do, etc.  

Absolutely not. i mean choices that define your character.

Well, that's subjective at best, IMO, but I see what you're getting at, I just disagree 

[4stringwizard]

EntropicAngel wrote...

spirosz wrote...



And by choices you mean, by story/ impact on story?  You choose how your character looks, you can get different dialogue choices, you choose how to fight, which quests to do, etc.  

Absolutely not. i mean choices that define your character.

Skyrim is an RPG.  Deal with it.