Vaeliorin wrote...
I'd even be happy with a Kingdoms of Amalur:Reckoning style world, which is contiguous and not blocked off, but the areas are still self-contained.
bleetman wrote...
I found it hard to feel involved in the grand, overarching civil-war-return-of-the-dragons story everyone keeps telling me Skyrim had when the majority of my time was spent doing things that had nothing to do with that whatsoever. The main story felt, for all intents and purposes, like little more than context, rather than the driving force behind what I was doing. There was no sense of urgency or pacing to anything I was being told to do. Not really helped, I suppose, by the way I could realistically spend weeks ignoring it - or never getting around to it at all - without consequence.
Stories in Bioware titles are considerably more central. I'd rather they didn't go down the 'go anywhere you like' exploration route.
(Though if they aped Skyrim's mod support, that'd be great D: )
bleetman wrote...
I found it hard to feel involved in the grand, overarching civil-war-return-of-the-dragons story everyone keeps telling me Skyrim had when the majority of my time was spent doing things that had nothing to do with that whatsoever. The main story felt, for all intents and purposes, like little more than context, rather than the driving force behind what I was doing. There was no sense of urgency or pacing to anything I was being told to do. Not really helped, I suppose, by the way I could realistically spend weeks ignoring it - or never getting around to it at all - without consequence.
Stories in Bioware titles are considerably more central. I'd rather they didn't go down the 'go anywhere you like' exploration route.
(Though if they aped Skyrim's mod support, that'd be great D: )
Modifié par Kileyan, 08 décembre 2012 - 05:14 .
Villiamus wrote...
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what do you think good or bad, I personally think good if bioware melds the explorabiliy of skyrim and the great writing they've done before your looking at a high dragon of a game.
Modifié par Bfler, 08 décembre 2012 - 07:24 .
The Grey Nayr wrote...
DA3 is Skyrim because one of the concept arts has snowy mountains?
Origins had the frostback mountains if you remember. Y'know, the Sacred Ashes and Orzammar quests?
Also the Anderfels is a snowy peak region of Thedas. That could be Weisshaupt fortress on the art,
Modifié par DarkSpiral, 08 décembre 2012 - 07:45 .
^thispmac_tk421 wrote...
I tried to like Skyrim, but I couldn't. I prefer DA2. Yeah I said it. Get over it.
Modifié par Zevais, 08 décembre 2012 - 07:49 .
Zevais wrote...
^thispmac_tk421 wrote...
I tried to like Skyrim, but I couldn't. I prefer DA2. Yeah I said it. Get over it.
Sandbox games are for people with all the time in the world. I like to search around... but just within areas (we just need more areas/maps/levels/dungeons/whatever you want to call it). I want to feel like I accomplished something before I save my game and turn it off. Some of us have lives. I really hope this article is jumping the gun... probably is anyhow.
Kileyan wrote...
bleetman wrote...
I found it hard to feel involved in the grand, overarching civil-war-return-of-the-dragons story everyone keeps telling me Skyrim had when the majority of my time was spent doing things that had nothing to do with that whatsoever. The main story felt, for all intents and purposes, like little more than context, rather than the driving force behind what I was doing. There was no sense of urgency or pacing to anything I was being told to do. Not really helped, I suppose, by the way I could realistically spend weeks ignoring it - or never getting around to it at all - without consequence.
Stories in Bioware titles are considerably more central. I'd rather they didn't go down the 'go anywhere you like' exploration route.
(Though if they aped Skyrim's mod support, that'd be great D: )
Urgency is overated. Pacing is overated.
Who said every story has to be paced on the DO IT NOW DO IT NOW timeline?
For example the SKyrim story has been something that has been happening for 100's of years. Why should be suddently be compelled to do it NOW NOW NOW.
This is a choice players should make, not the game creators. It is a story the player should create for himself. If I want to get invested in the main story and see it to the end as fast as possible, of course that should be an option.
If I want to be the sort of player to explore the world and end the main storyline at my leisure....why not?
These are stories that have been in the making for centuries, it is plain silly to claim that it should be so important that we must focus on them no stop since the beginning of the game. Why the rush?
I don't see the upside to telling a story that is so rushed and so critical that it has no time for doing anythign else. That isn't a game world, that is a play by the numbers book, not a game.
I'm hoping Bioware creates a world we can play in, rather than a movie we can play bit parts in.
The story of the Elder Scrolls covers centuries, yes, but the events withiin each game are presented as urgent. Just because it took Alduin centuries to show up does not mean that the protagonist has centuries to defeat him, that's total un-logic. In both Oblivion and Skyrim it is made clear that total destruction of the world is basically imminent. How do you get "dawdle around and do whatever you want" from that?Kileyan wrote...
bleetman wrote...
I found it hard to feel involved in the grand, overarching civil-war-return-of-the-dragons story everyone keeps telling me Skyrim had when the majority of my time was spent doing things that had nothing to do with that whatsoever. The main story felt, for all intents and purposes, like little more than context, rather than the driving force behind what I was doing. There was no sense of urgency or pacing to anything I was being told to do. Not really helped, I suppose, by the way I could realistically spend weeks ignoring it - or never getting around to it at all - without consequence.
Stories in Bioware titles are considerably more central. I'd rather they didn't go down the 'go anywhere you like' exploration route.
(Though if they aped Skyrim's mod support, that'd be great D: )
Urgency is overated. Pacing is overated.
Who said every story has to be paced on the DO IT NOW DO IT NOW timeline?
For example the SKyrim story has been something that has been happening for 100's of years. Why should be suddently be compelled to do it NOW NOW NOW.
make sense, then it would be a different matter entirely. But the fact is that they do.
Modifié par Plaintiff, 08 décembre 2012 - 08:43 .
Kaidan Fan wrote...
I hope not. I couldn't even get 2 hours game time in Skyrim.
Zevais wrote...
^thispmac_tk421 wrote...
I tried to like Skyrim, but I couldn't. I prefer DA2. Yeah I said it. Get over it.
Sandbox games are for people with all the time in the world. I like to search around... but just within areas (we just need more areas/maps/levels/dungeons/whatever you want to call it). I want to feel like I accomplished something before I save my game and turn it off. Some of us have lives. I really hope this article is jumping the gun... probably is anyhow.
CaptainBlackGold wrote...
Zevais wrote...
^thispmac_tk421 wrote...
I tried to like Skyrim, but I couldn't. I prefer DA2. Yeah I said it. Get over it.
Sandbox games are for people with all the time in the world. I like to search around... but just within areas (we just need more areas/maps/levels/dungeons/whatever you want to call it). I want to feel like I accomplished something before I save my game and turn it off. Some of us have lives. I really hope this article is jumping the gun... probably is anyhow.
Not ragging on you here; different people like different things in game. But your comment makes me wonder how many times you (or people with your same inclinations) play through a game? Also, what exactly are you looking for in a game play experience?
From a casual reading of the boards, a lot of posters here seem to play through a game once, maybe twice - and then move on to other games. There is a sense of "accomplishment" that comes from finishing a game. And once they have that, they are not really interesed in going over the same ground again. A lot of people complained about DAO being "too long."
However others of us like playing a game over and over again - and that is probably very atypical. I won't say how many hours I have invested in Skyrim (too embarrassed) but have never completed the main quest line. The "fun" for me is just wandering around for maybe an hour or two when I have the time, leveling up a character, experimenting with mods and builds and generally just playing around in Skyrim's world for a bit.
And yup, I have a life, a wife, kids, mortgage, and social responsibilities. All of that means I want to get the most out of whatever pittance remains after expenses, for gaming. So for me, a more "open world" DA3, with lots more "stuff" to do, increases its value for me by a lot.
But if you just want a good story, then once you know the ending, then there is not much more of interest.
Again, not in any way trying to belittle or denigrate your opinion - just wondering if there is a correlation between your comments above and how many times you generally play through a game.
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