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[Bhatair]

Admit it, you enjoyed watching them squirm!

[Skellimancer]

They could have used an evil ending from DA

[Bhatair]

Skellimancer wrote...

They could have used an evil ending from DA

There's an 'evil' ending?

[KnightofPhoenix]

Mary Kirby wrote...

You mean a 1:38 trailer didn't spend its entirety showing all the permutations of how the story could be continued? What the heck, Bioware! Obviously, you didn't account for my ending, and the whole story is ruined, and forever after I will be unable to enjoy spring breezes, food will have lost all flavor, and there will no longer be joy in the world! HOW COULD YOU?

Thanks for confirming that there are multiple ways to play the expansion depending on our choices (my PC is King and I won't have it any other way).
Can you please however tell us how long will it take?
We have been told it's 15 hours. Are these 15 hours only about the main quests? Or are sidequests also included into these 15 hours?

Thanks again.

[MyKingdomCold]

Valkeyr wrote...




I know but with no faq, I can't be too sure. Perhaps Allistair isn't king and Anora is queen? But what if you're a male human or female human? You have custom endings for that too. Will bioware spend the time for these? or will it narrow the endings down?
Also, you say bioware could keep the endings in mind. But then what happens to the companions who follow you in their endings? 

Aren't you jumping the gun a little?  The expansion was just announced today. It won't be out for another two months or so.

[Skellimancer]

Bhatair wrote...

Skellimancer wrote...

They could have used an evil ending from DA

There's an 'evil' ending?

the "evil" part differs depending on the individuals met.

[BroBear Berbil]

It's not like they can make a trailer for every outcome.

I didn't play Male Shephard in ME1 yet the ME2 trailers show him running around. It's an outrage!

[Talonfire]

We don't actually have any real confirmation of anything. At least wait an interview or two before coming to the conclusion that BioWare is disregarding all possible endings.

Modifié par Talonfire, 05 janvier 2010 - 09:33 .

[IronVanguard]

Some people are overreacting.



I'm sure the trailer simply shows one possibly way for things to go, and I doubt after all the work they went through giving a a thousand choices in the game they'll nullify much-if anything- you did.



Really people, even a lot of the information we do have isn't guaranteed. Things have a tendency to change with time.

[Skellimancer]

OnionXI wrote...

It's not like they can make a trailer for every outcome.

I didn't play Male Shephard in ME1 yet the ME2 trailers show him running around. It's an outrage!

Just a 10 second movie of a cloaked and hooded rogue on a mountain of bones shouting, "I KILLED THEM ALL!!"

is that too much to ask?

[fantasypisces]

Mary Kirby wrote...

You mean a 1:38 trailer didn't spend its entirety showing all the permutations of how the story could be continued? What the heck, Bioware! Obviously, you didn't account for my ending, and the whole story is ruined, and forever after I will be unable to enjoy spring breezes, food will have lost all flavor, and there will no longer be joy in the world! HOW COULD YOU?

WHAAAA I WANT MY LELIANA BACK!!!!!!!! WHAAAAAAAAA

Hehe, good post Mr. Kirby. And I agree, the trailer is just one possible outcome (nice traile btw).

(no, but seriously, I want Leliana back).

[JasonPogo]

fantasypisces wrote...

Mary Kirby wrote...

You mean a 1:38 trailer didn't spend its entirety showing all the permutations of how the story could be continued? What the heck, Bioware! Obviously, you didn't account for my ending, and the whole story is ruined, and forever after I will be unable to enjoy spring breezes, food will have lost all flavor, and there will no longer be joy in the world! HOW COULD YOU?

WHAAAA I WANT MY LELIANA BACK!!!!!!!! WHAAAAAAAAA

Hehe, good post Mr. Kirby. And I agree, the trailer is just one possible outcome (nice traile btw).

(no, but seriously, I want Leliana back).

So after reading your posts in a few threads I am unclear?  Do you want Leliana back or not?

[Nobody Important]

Is anyone else wondering what the hell happens to dog? He obviously isn't the returning companion due to Oghren being shown twice.

[David Gaider]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Thanks for confirming that there are multiple ways to play the expansion depending on our choices (my PC is King and I won't have it any other way).

That confirms nothing. The only thing that's saying (and which I am saying) is that looking to the trailer's lack of confirmation of something as confirmation of its lack in the game is jumping the gun. We're not at liberty to discuss anything regarding the expansion just yet beyond what's already been announced.

[Skellimancer]

David Gaider wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Thanks for confirming that there are multiple ways to play the expansion depending on our choices (my PC is King and I won't have it any other way).

That confirms nothing. The only thing that's saying (and which I am saying) is that looking to the trailer's lack of confirmation of something as confirmation of its lack in the game is jumping the gun. We're not at liberty to discuss anything regarding the expansion just yet beyond what's already been announced.

Signed up to the illuminati i see.

[AndreaDraco]

David Gaider wrote...

The only thing that's saying (and which I am saying) is that looking to the trailer's lack of confirmation of something as confirmation of its lack in the game is jumping the gun. .

I really like this sentence

[Bullets McDeath]

You know, I realize these boards are a wretched hive of scum and villiany and I'm as bad as any one... but, and I'm just spitballing here, maybe Bioware could pay somebody to answer questions on these forums without being a dick? I'm sure that for a developer or writer, reading these forums must sometimes be as enjoyable as trying to slurp rancid tuna salad out of your own a55hole... but no matter how inane a customer's question might be, sarcasm does not reflect well on your professional image.

I had the same questions after watching the trailer, and yes after about a second of thinking on it, I realized these things would hard to get across in a trailer, so I shouldn't jump the gun. Nevertheless, I think this is a question you should be able to see coming miles away, so either answer or don't. There's no point in being rude, except possibly driving off a potential customer.

Modifié par outlaworacle, 05 janvier 2010 - 09:47 .

[Vilegrim]

Bhatair wrote...

Skellimancer wrote...

They could have used an evil ending from DA

There's an 'evil' ending?

You declare yourself king, have the soul forge reactivated, desicrate the sacred ashes, leave connor possesed, etc.... that pretty much counts.

[Bhatair]

outlaworacle wrote...

You know, I realize these boards are a wretched hive of scum and villiany and I'm as bad as any one... but, and I'm just spitballing here, maybe Bioware could pay somebody to answer questions on these forums without being a dick? I'm sure that for a developer or writer, reading these forums must sometimes be as enjoyable as trying to slurp rancid tuna salad out of your own ****... but no matter how inane a customer's question might be, sarcasm doesn't make you or your company look professional.

But it sure is a hell of a lot more fun than being professional.

You declare yourself king, have the soul forge
reactivated, desicrate the sacred ashes, leave connor possesed, etc....
that pretty much counts.

Oh, so like my rogues playthrough then >.>

Modifié par Bhatair, 05 janvier 2010 - 09:51 .

[BroBear Berbil]

outlaworacle wrote...

You know, I realize these boards are a wretched hive of scum and villiany and I'm as bad as any one... but, and I'm just spitballing here, maybe Bioware could pay somebody to answer questions on these forums without being a dick? I'm sure that for a developer or writer, reading these forums must sometimes be as enjoyable as trying to slurp rancid tuna salad out of your own ****... but no matter how inane a customer's question might be, sarcasm doesn't make you or your company look professional.

I don't know. I rather enjoy reading David's posts and I think he reads the forums gratis.

[ejoslin]

One of my frustrations at the endings has been that you only hear about what happens to your romantic interest if you don't sacrifice yourself (or who you end up traveling with if you have no romantic interest). I have to agree that taking a favorite companion sounds like it could be traveling or rebuilding with (not king) Ali, Zevran, or Leli. And it would explain why you only hear about what happens to the one companion when you survive. And it also would explain why it says "for a time" if you do anything but rebuild the gray wardens.

I can hope!

Modifié par ejoslin, 05 janvier 2010 - 09:49 .

[Skellimancer]

outlaworacle wrote...

You know, I realize these boards are a wretched hive of scum and villiany and I'm as bad as any one... but, and I'm just spitballing here, maybe Bioware could pay somebody to answer questions on these forums without being a dick? I'm sure that for a developer or writer, reading these forums must sometimes be as enjoyable as trying to slurp rancid tuna salad out of your own ****... but no matter how inane a customer's question might be, sarcasm doesn't make you or your company look professional.

Arrrrrrr, we be scum alright, and they be addled!

[errant_knight]

Valkeyr wrote...

So I wake up...eat breakfest and then make some tea...and promptly spit out my tea when I go on my computer and see the latest news.

A expansion in the works already?coming out in 2 months?! Granted after the DLC/patch 1.03 Biowares sense of time reminds me of "valve time" so the expansion may be in a long while.


I then watch the trailer and I must say... I'm displeased.


Allistair walking around as king, Oghren as the only old companion who joins, you being the origins warden or a new one from Orleis...I must say I have issues with this. One of the good things about wrpgs like dragon age is choices and endings. Awakening mentions even more moral choices in it. Yet, it feels like the ending in origins may be ignored, completely taking away some of the fun of it being a RPG.


Let's start with the warden for example. Now if he sacrifices himself, you can play as a new warden- makes sense I suppose. But if you're the original warden from origins...will people notice? Will allaistair have different lines for you? Will people say, "nice job against the archdemon back then!"? What of my equipment and level? Granted it seems like you get captured so maybe your equipment is gone in the beginning...but what about all that loot I kept in my camp/fort?! I would think being lvl.23 with starfang and such is going to cause issues despite the level scaling when you compare it to mr.noname the new warden commander with no unique items on him at the start.


Then there's allaistair. He's alive? And king? Where's Anora? Where's Loghain? If Loghain joined my party, would he and anora be talking to me instead? What about if Allistair sacrificed himself in the end? It feels like that's not accepted as a ending in awakening. Either you die, or if you import your old character, only the morrigan baby ending is cannon?


Finally, the expansion mentions a old companion rejoining. If you watch the trailer, the clip at 1:20 confirms its Oghren.


Wait........what?

So out of everyone who can join me, only Oghren does?


First off, in my ending Oghren sobered up, had a baby (named after me ) with that dwarf woman in the tavern next to a lake, and I think he became a general of some such. I don't think it's his only ending. If one ending still has him as a drunkard, and another a sober (compartively) family man, how is he going to act in the expansions?

On top of that, what of my other companions? Wynne, Morrigan, Shale, Allistair I can understand...but if I told Sten I can accompany him to Qunari lands?
What of Leliana if you romance her?
What of Zehvran whos ending says he follows you wherever you go?
Finally, where's my damn DOG?! I named that dog dorfsbeard and it followed my dwarf beserker everywhere. Did it run away? Hit by a truck? Mabari are supposed to be loyal companions and I don't see how in the world my character and his dog split ways.


I get the feeling I'm going to be disappoint when I import my old character and half his accomplishments and endings never happened. Even with a new one, I'm willing to be a lot of things will be cannonized sadly that people will disagree with.



Whew, rant done just my 2 cents

 How do you expect them to show every possible ending in a trailer? There's no reason to think this is the only possible scenario at all, any more than there was only one possible ending.

[KnightofPhoenix]

David Gaider wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Thanks for confirming that there are multiple ways to play the expansion depending on our choices (my PC is King and I won't have it any other way).

That confirms nothing. The only thing that's saying (and which I am saying) is that looking to the trailer's lack of confirmation of something as confirmation of its lack in the game is jumping the gun. We're not at liberty to discuss anything regarding the expansion just yet beyond what's already been announced.

Ok I see. Thanks.
I am anxious to learn more about the expansion. And I know Bioware won't dissapoint.

[Spitz6860]

IF they are gonna do the whole ME2 your choices matter for the sequel thing, i hope they do it well enough so the quality of the story doesn't suffer.