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Playing DA2 The Better Way (with DLC)


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Cimeas

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Purchase the DLC.

The biggest problem with DA2 is the overused environments.  You feel 'stuck' in Kirkwall.  For this reason, the DLC can be incredibly helpful in alleviating that problem. 

By playing Mark of the Assassin in mid Act 2, and Legacy at the start of Act 3, my whole perception of the game changed.  Because I'd had these 'breaks' from the main storyline, I was no longer annoyed at the repeated maps, since it had been some hours since I'd seen them last. 

The game also gained a much larger scope in my opinion, and the story felt properly filled out.   One huge three-act story and two smaller adventures, a perfect size.  

What did you think?  Did playing the game with Legacy and MoTA make a difference for you?

Modifié par Cimeas, 08 décembre 2012 - 08:20 .


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caradoc2000

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Definitely an improvement, and if they continue that way in DA3, even better.

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DragonAgeLegend

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I finished Legacy and it was amazing, although I don't remember much that happened in it. I'm on my 3rd play through in DA2 and so I think I'll play it again at the end of Act 2. I only played a few minutes of MoTA before realizing that I should have waited till I was atleast in Act 3 because it would make more sense. I'm in Act 2 now so I play them again once I get the chance.

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+1
DA2 DLC are the best DLC from Bioware.
even better than Lotsb or Leleiana's song.

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Isaantia

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In this most recent play through, after not touching the game for a year, I played MotA near the end of Act 3 and story-wise it was a huge mistake for me. It seemed silly that Hawke was in Orlais having a jolly time and making jokes. I should have played it in Act 2. ymmv, though

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Isaantia wrote...

In this most recent play through, after not touching the game for a year, I played MotA near the end of Act 3 and story-wise it was a huge mistake for me. It seemed silly that Hawke was in Orlais having a jolly time and making jokes. I should have played it in Act 2. ymmv, though

MotA takes place in Free Marches, not Orlais.

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thats1evildude

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I played it right near the end of Act 3 so that I could utilize the gear throughout the ending. It basically made for a good breather episode before the ultra-dark finale.

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Cimeas

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I think it just sort of 'completes' the storyline for me, in the sense that I think the game would have been far more fulfilling if the DLCs had been included at launch.

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I agree, and I know exactly what you mean. when you describe the liberating emotional effect of getting out of Kirkwall for a spell, and seeing some fresh, wider vistas.

I really liked the DA:2 DLC, which I felt addressed a tonne of issues from the vanilla game. Only difference is I like to play both DLCs in Act 3, as it makes more sense to me from a headcanon perspective.

Only thing I dislike about them is the damned mandatory 'beam puzzle' in Legacy. I absolutely, totally, and comprehensively SUCK at sequence puzzles, and if it wasn't for Youtube videos I'd be stuck on it to this day, completely unable to finish the DLC.

As it was, I was able to solve at least enough of the puzzle to escape the room, simply by playing a snippet of the Youtube video, emulating it in-game.. playing a bit more... copying it... etc.

Never once managed to unlock the extra goodies by completing the second part of the puzzle.. even after three playthroughs.

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I almost like the dlc more then the "vanilla" DA3, probably since they didnt felt as rushed. But yeah like people say, just getting out of Kirkwall (for once) was really nice.

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Well I still haven't played DA2 - despite a pre-purchase\\day 1 release... cause it was extremely crap compared to DA1.

Time has passed and I am ready to give it a go again. I am was going to use my 360 controller and my 46" telly. I was going to add all the DLC onto this and give it a whirl.

...30 minutes later...

Right, so I eventually figured out the unholy mess that is Steam, old Bioware community accountrs and EA store log ins. That EA store is a complete joke, as are Bioware points.

After a short calculation I reckon that I need 4000 Bioware points, roughly £30, to buy all (remaining) DLC for DA2. I reckon the original game was about £35 when released... so to finally play this game a good year (or so?) after release, for max enjoyment yous reckon I should bend over and let EA take me for £65 in total?

Well, the time it took to re-active those Bioware and EA accounts means I have missed the gaming window that I had... Hmm I wonder if I can trade Dragon Age 2 on steam for something. Perhaps a DA2 Ultimate - the 'not crap' edition will be released and drop to as sensible £15 - £20 sometime in the future.

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Yeah, I agree. I have a soft spot for da2. It was the game that got me into dragon age. i see the criticisms and some of them are legit but the dlc really makes it a much better game. you get more vareity of weapons and some much needed armor sets and the story in both have some fascinating ramifications for the future.

And the banter in both is just bloody astounding.

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DA2 is, by general RPG standards, not bad. By Bioware standards its abject turd, but that's because Bioware's catalogue is generally excellent.

I do have a soft spot for it... mainly because mages were one of the the few things that were done right. But even so, Act 3 was absolutely terrible - the DLCs make it worth playing, as they actually give you something that you desperately needed at that stage - i.e., a change of scenery and stories that make sense.

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Stokie Stallion

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i feel its more better layed out now myself :) you do get bored of the same map layouts and completed the game that many times gets boring, but doing the dlc makes then going back to it does feel alot less tedious

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Treacherous J Slither

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Don't those DLC's corrupt your memory though? That's why I haven't gotten them myself.

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I agree, one of the main things I didn't like about DA II was the re-used environments, but Legacy and Mark of the Assassin (especially MOTA) did a pretty good job of fixing that issue by letting me get out of Kirkwall for a while. The dialogue in the DLCs from party members is great as well and it's nice that they could be played as part of the main game and not separate (like the Missing Link DLC for Deus Ex: HR was). :)

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so where does makes the most sense to play these DLC quests? Which one in Act 2, and which in Act 3?

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Wonderllama4 wrote...

so where does makes the most sense to play these DLC quests? Which one in Act 2, and which in Act 3?


My personal feeling is that Legacy works best mid-to-late Act 2, and Mark of the Assassin is best in late Act 3.

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I completely agree. A little way into Act III, I was so burned out on the same locations that I put the game down for months. Recently picked it up again and also bought Legacy and Mark of the Assassin DLCs and really enjoyed the rest of the game.

MofA in particular was a much needed change of environment. There were actually flowers on the ground in some places! But both DLCs felt good in terms of length, story, and pacing. Especially if you bring a sibling along for Legacy.

AshenSugar wrote...
Only thing I dislike about them is the damned mandatory 'beam puzzle' in Legacy. I absolutely, totally, and comprehensively SUCK at sequence puzzles, and if it wasn't for Youtube videos I'd be stuck on it to this day, completely unable to finish the DLC.
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I got completely stumped on this one as well, but finally reloaded so I could try the puzzle one step at a time and that worked much better for me. Actually, I wish there were more puzzles in the Dragon Age games. It breaks up all the dungeon combat nicely. But then again, I love pouring a cup of tea and going 'hmm....' for 30 minutes. Not everyone thinks of that as fun.
:lol:

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SilentK

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I absolutely love legacy, such a great piece of dlc. My current Hawke just got into Act 3 and I can't wait to play it!

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Hatchetman77

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Horray for having to drop an extra $20.00 on a $60.00 game for it to be playable.

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JSlither wrote...

Don't those DLC's corrupt your memory though? That's why I haven't gotten them myself.


I've never heard of that before, can anyone confirm or deny this? (An answer for Xbox 360 would be ideal)
I'm debating on buying Legacy and Mark of the Assassin, but it's out of the question if my memory is at risk.

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dunstan1993 wrote...

JSlither wrote...

Don't those DLC's corrupt your memory though? That's why I haven't gotten them myself.


I've never heard of that before, can anyone confirm or deny this? (An answer for Xbox 360 would be ideal)
I'm debating on buying Legacy and Mark of the Assassin, but it's out of the question if my memory is at risk.


No, it only happens in the PS3 version.

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dunstan1993

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shepard1038 wrote...

dunstan1993 wrote...

JSlither wrote...

Don't those DLC's corrupt your memory though? That's why I haven't gotten them myself.


I've never heard of that before, can anyone confirm or deny this? (An answer for Xbox 360 would be ideal)
I'm debating on buying Legacy and Mark of the Assassin, but it's out of the question if my memory is at risk.


No, it only happens in the PS3 version.


Thank you, I'll continue the debate with myself and go back to lurking around DA2 dlc threads. :ph34r:

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I like the way the story went all in all, I also loved the dlc, more mark of the assassin than legacy, but feel all in all it is simply too short. The one thing that truly annoys me is, as you will know you still have to fight the ultimate mage ^_^ and we all know what you egt for doing this( I lov playing as a mage) what is the point of giving you this if you are practically finished and once done can no longer do anything?