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[Solmanian]

Do you realy want your LI calling you "inquisitor"? That paints the whole relationship in a very unromantic color.
I realy hated when the DA:O comapnions were talking about me, and they kept calling me "him". It felt like I wasn't even in the room, or that they couldn't be arsed to remember my name...

[PsychoBlonde]

DarkSpiral wrote...

Interesting thought.  Anyone know what th French use as social idenitfiers?  Lower or higher social status surnames?  I'm talking about historical France, of course.  Not necesarily modern forms of address.

From my reading it's pretty similar to most other feudal societies at the time.  Monsieur was actually two words originally, "mon" meaning "my" and "Sieur" meaning, approximately, "Sir" (or "lord").  Similarly Madame (my lady) or  Mademoiselle, which is how one addresses a noble young lady.

From what I remember, it was appropriate to address any noble male short of the actual king as Monsieur.  If he had other titles (such as being a Marquis), you'd address him as "Monsieur le Marquis".  Or, for women, "Madame le Marquesse".

Granted, most of the French novels I've read were written about the French Revolution.  Huh, according to Wikipedia, originally Monsieur was the eldest living brother of the King.  Weird.  Rules for address during different periods in France could get pretty deranged--during the height of the Aristocracy nobles wouldn't even speak directly to non-nobles--they had people for that.  People with sticks.  And if a non-noble addressed an aristocrat directly, it was a grave insult no matter what term of address was used.

Modifié par PsychoBlonde, 09 décembre 2012 - 05:08 .

[DarkSpiral]

Orian Tabris wrote...
Otherwise, why even choose our own character's first name? If the surname can't be changed based on what the player decides, then logically, the first name can't either. It really depends on what the standard name for the PC is in DA3. If it's the last name, then obviously we would be unable to make it up, but we don't yet know that.

*shrug*

Savegane differentiation.  I don't intend to be a jerk with that statement.  It really is how I tell them apart at a glance.

[DarkSpiral]

Solmanian wrote...

Do you realy want your LI calling you "inquisitor"? That paints the whole relationship in a very unromantic color.
I realy hated when the DA:O comapnions were talking about me, and they kept calling me "him". It felt like I wasn't even in the room, or that they couldn't be arsed to remember my name...

Well no, certainly not.  Merrill calls you "my heart" a lot.  Isabela doesn't really do nicknames at all.

The point about the party banter is a godo one.  Of particular offense was the one where Alistair and Leliana talk about the relationship between Morrigan and the Warden.  I was standing right there.

This was the chief reason I was happy to see Hake toss in a comment, every once in a while.

[DarkSpiral]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

From my reading it's pretty similar to most other feudal societies at the time.  Monsieur was actually two words originally, "mon" meaning "my" and "Sieur" meaning, approximately, "Sir" (or "lord").  Similarly Madame (my lady) or  Mademoiselle, which is how one addresses a noble young lady.

From what I remember, it was appropriate to address any noble male short of the actual king as Monsieur.  If he had other titles (such as being a Marquis), you'd address him as "Monsieur le Marquis".  Or, for women, "Madame le Marquesse".

Granted, most of the French novels I've read were written about the French Revolution.  Huh, according to Wikipedia, originally Monsieur was the eldest living brother of the King.  Weird.  Rules for address during different periods in France could get pretty deranged--during the height of the Aristocracy nobles wouldn't even speak directly to non-nobles--they had people for that.  People with sticks.  And if a non-noble addressed an aristocrat directly, it was a grave insult no matter what term of address was used.

I just recalled that Orlesian nobility aren't allowed titles anymore.  Everyone is either a lord or a lady.  I suppose we'll have a smattering or one of those two, then, along with anything more specific.

Actually French history might even be teh reason why the titles were made less complicated, though that is a complete guess on my part.

[Manic Sheep]

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Orian Tabris wrote...

Why not allow us to choose our own surname? Instead of being George Cousland or George Amell, we could be George Anderson or George O'Reilly!

We won't be playing one of 2 or more races, or another surname protagonist like Hawke, so I don't see why we can't have a surname. Unless of course, the backstories all rely on the PC having a last name, such as being called by that.

If characters are going to speak to the PC, they have to be able to call him by a common name. That's why the surname was pre-set in DA2, Mass Effect and plenty of other games with the same problem.

No, I mean like, why can't we choose the surname as well as the first name, irrespective of how NPCs refer to the PC?

It can't be 'irrespective', because NPCs refer to the PC by his surname.

No, most NPCs will refer to the PC in the way, designated by BioWare. In Dragon Age's case, Warden, Warden/Commander or Hawke. That does not necessarily mean they will refer to the PC by his/her surname.

Otherwise, why even choose our own character's first name? If the surname can't be changed based on what the player decides, then logically, the first name can't either. It really depends on what the standard name for the PC is in DA3. If it's the last name, then obviously we would be unable to make it up, but we don't yet know that.

It’s a trade off. Allowing you to customise the first part of your characters name while still having a common name that can be used in voiced dialogue that is more natural than a title or just using personal pronouns.
Also so you can tell saves apart.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 09 décembre 2012 - 05:36 .

[drake heath]

I would everyone to refer to me as Lord Inquisitor, even in the most intimate moments.

[Solas]

drake heath wrote...

I would everyone to refer to me as Lord Inquisitor*, even in the most intimate moments.

*Lord High Inquisitor 

[Sharn01]

If the name you choose means nothing then they may as well just give you an actual name, as much as I dislike the idea, I dislike the idea more that close personal friends or lovers will use your title or last name to address your character.

[HurricaneGinger]

Hmm, I actually don't mind BioWare using a surname but I'm open to having a choice of a few first names the NPCs would actually voice. Mind you it would have to be a limited selection of course, and if no one is pleased with the selection then they can settle creating a first name and make due with hearing their character's surname, nickname, and title throughout the game. BioWare could create a poll, and narrow down a few choice first names.

[JWvonGoethe]

Could a fixed surname even work with multiple backgrounds?

I can imagine a lot of people wouldn't be very happy if there was a noble background and a commoner background, and both backgrounds were associated with the same family name.

[TEWR]

This is really not something I personally care about. DAO had Aeducan, Cousland, and Mahariel as surnames. They weren't used completely throughout the game, but they were used at times during and after the prologues.

I'm fine with surnames being used. Doesn't alienate me from my character.

DarkSpiral wrote...

Merrill calls you "my heart" a lot

Nitpicking here: She calls you "my love" in the Elven language, not "my heart".

Carry on.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 09 décembre 2012 - 09:20 .

[Sabariel]

I demand that every protagonist be called "Hey, you."

[caradoc2000]

JasonPogo wrote...

... when everyone calls them a preset name.

Not everyone, the Orlesian in MotA called Hawke a turnip

[Kidd]

I prefer having a name. Scenes can feel so much more "real" and personal when people talk name their friend Shepard or Hawke instead of Gorion's Ward or the Warden.

Myself I wouldn't mind having the first name being set. Perhaps that could even be better? People who want to input their own names could input the family name, but the first name would always be given by BioWare to be used by NPCs.

[Huge_Beaver]

I hope they use both surname and their first name, feels so stupid when close friends use your surname instead :/

[Ausstig]

I hear the inquisitor will be named Eisenhorn


Those know will laugh.

[Fredward]

Surname > title. #trufactz

[DarkSpiral]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Nitpicking here: She calls you "my love" in the Elven language, not "my heart".

Carry on.

Ahh...no, the literal translation is "my heart," Redux.  "Love" is "lath," not "vhenan."  Or at least thats what the wiki has it listed as.  Sure the context is pretty clear, but I was using the literal translation on purpose.

Modifié par DarkSpiral, 09 décembre 2012 - 11:18 .

[Amirit]

Nizaris1 wrote...

maybe someday there will be a software where computer can spell our name whatever we write, but that will be funny, because alphabet sound differently when put in words and alphabets sound different by different people

some of you may call my nickname "Ny-zuh-rys, Nee-zar-rees, Nie-zah-rice....ect

This software already exists. Check it out - just one example: http://text-to-speec...translator.net/

And there are no problems with different pronunciation, since you could hear it during CC.  
The question is if it is worth to implement in game.

[PaulSX]

Agree, the main character should be nameless and had no default background. Really do not want another Hawke.

[DarkSpiral]

suntzuxi wrote...

Agree, the main character should be nameless and had no default background. Really do not want another Hawke.

They've already confirmed that the character will no tbe nameless and that there will be a selection of backgrounds to choose during chargen.  Whether the selection will have significant effects is something we'll discover in roughly a year.

[caradoc2000]

The wizard should be called Tim.

Seriously, while I would prefer my first name in some situations, I think that this naming business is at most a minor inconveniece.