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Don't use a surname for the main character.


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#51
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I would like a list of names/titles to choose from at character creation.

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I don't see how it's relevant if the character's last name isn't "suited" to your characterization of them. Your real last name wasn't chosen by you, it's just what you're called and you just move on with your life and define yourself that way. If I was a cop and everyone called me "Officer", including friends and enemies, it would seem incredibly stupid and kind of like I'm stuck in a weird dream where everyone is subtly mocking me.

Even having a choice between 2 surnames would create a huge amount of extra work in re-recording any line that has your name in, and there's no guarantee you'll like either of them anyway. You couldn't just have a gap where you insert the name, it would sound crappy and fake - like in football games where it's like "Today it's ENGLAND against.... BRAZIL and we can see... ROONEY coming out now" and so on.

Modifié par Teclo, 09 décembre 2012 - 01:54 .


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I hate the title usage convention and would actually prefer it if they went the other way completely and fixed the entire name.

Before anyone is shocked, this position falls neatly within my "I don't really care about choices the game does not respond to" argument, and the game does not acknowledge your custom name. 

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 09 décembre 2012 - 01:54 .


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Just call me by my rank. I prefer it that way.

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Yeah, I totally agree with Upsettingshorts' outlook and reasoning. Not to mention, you don't get to choose your name in real life anyway, so it's seems odd to call yourself something like Thunderfist McGruder because that fits your supposed character. Names do not work that way. It's not like all real life bakers are called Crusty Breadman or all soldiers are called Zack Fist or whatever.

@ the poster above: So if you were the principal of a school, you'd expect everyone you ever meet to call you Principle and nothing else?

Modifié par Teclo, 09 décembre 2012 - 01:59 .


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If I have to be called by surname, I call my characters really embarrassing names so they resort to using surnames :)

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Maybe a mix of both? Have NPC's and companions refer to you mostly by your surname/title. But you could also have a choice of three set names for females and males (like how Jade Empire had Ming, Lu and Shen for males and Wu, Ling and Jen-Zi for females. Except, with no option to change them) and have others refer to you by those names on rare occasions.

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I don't really mind the surname as long as it sounds like a nickname. "Hawke" for instance fits that nicely. If the surname is something odd like 'Von Linderschnibitz' then it doesn't work so well.

Honestly, there are few other options. You have to be called something vague. Titles and such work well for people that aren't close to you, but are odd for friends/relatives.

Giving the PC a nickname wouldn't work either, because what people like to be called is very subjective and personal. It wouldn't work for every player.

Modifié par Navasha, 09 décembre 2012 - 04:30 .


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lx_theo wrote...

I still say a combination. Surname for conversations with friends, Inquisitor or whatever they call you for people you don't know.


This is probably the best solution in a game with full voice acting. (LIs should use a nickname , though. Say, "honey", "my love", or whatever).

Although I have to say I fear that "Inquisitor" might sound a bit awkward after a while. "Warden" and "Hawke" are shorter and more immediate, but I can imagine people calling you "Inquisitor, Inquisitor, Inquisitor" dozens of time becoming tiresome during the game.

Modifié par Pedrak, 09 décembre 2012 - 04:53 .


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What to call the main protaginist.......

Shepard's good..... but taken.

Watchman..... ok..... but gender specific, needs to be more neutral.

Sarge...... only applicable to someone who is in an institution wher rank names are abbreviated. Good for a solider but not a thief.

Mutant..... by itself has negative conotations. When was the last time you greeted a cashier, 'hello mutant'.

This is harder than it first sounds.

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I can't say I care. It gets odd when close friends only call you by your surname but titles make things seem so formal.

I still like to choose my character's first name. In an admittedly intangible way, it makes me feel like my character is a little more my own.

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I sometimes feel that all the second chapter of DA2 was written so that Hawke could FINALY get some official title to be addresed by Orsino and Meridith in chapter 3, lol! 8P

But DA2 actually handeled "neutral addressing" well, imo.
Friends call Hawke by surname, LI use some private ways (like "love" or "my heart"), strangers can use all sorts of neutral titles like "serah", "lady" etc.

Shepard had worst of it, since there was nothing but rank and surname, even from LIs. Also - character-bound "Shepard-commander", "Skipper", few "capitan" from quarians - but that's all the variety I can remember (plus nicknames from Vega).

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Inprea wrote...

I believe it'd be nice if characters have different ways of referring to the main character. This could be a title, a nickname or a mark of their status. None of these require the character to be named but gives you an idea of the characters relationship. Perhaps those who really don't know the main character or while the character is working they would be called Inquisitor.

I wonder what would be a good mage nickname?

There is actually a joke about this in the party banter in MotA DLC.

Hawke: Varric.
Varric: You called?
Hawke: I notice you don't have a nickname for me.
Varric: I call you Hawke. You've probably heard it once or twice.
Hawke: But that's my name. It's not like Daisy or Blondie.

(If Hawke has a diplomatic/helpful personality)
Varric: All right, Waffles. You really want a nickname, I can hook you up.
Hawke: Waffles? That's... unexpected.

(If Hawke has a humorous/charming personality)
Varric: Sure, Chuckles. You want a nickname, I'll be happy to fix you up.
Hawke: Chuckles? That works.

(If Hawke has an aggressive/direct personality)
Varric: If you really want a nickname, I can oblige. I'm thinking about going with Killer.
Hawke: How creative.

:lol:


Lord Aesir wrote...

I can't say I care. It gets odd when close friends only call you by your surname but titles make things seem so formal.

Here's the weird thing for me. I've actually had head conversations with various people, but I always use Hawke in those. At this point, I'm so used to hearing Hawke, and to thinking of my character as Hawke that using the given name I came up with is weird.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 09 décembre 2012 - 05:31 .


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nightscrawl wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I can't say I care. It gets odd when close friends only call you by your surname but titles make things seem so formal.

Here's the weird thing for me. I've actually had head conversations with various people, but I always use Hawke in those. At this point, I'm so used to hearing Hawke, and to thinking of my character as Hawke that using the given name I came up with is weird.

Actually I know that feeling exactly.  :mellow:

I recall a movie where a guy used only his last name because his first name was Mariane.  So I guess it happens.

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I don't mind my PC being called by her/his surname or title.
People have mentioned that it seems unnatural for friends to call the PC by her/his surname, but I don't think so. I have plenty of friends that only call me by my surname.
In fact, I think I only have maybe one or two friends that actually call me by my first name. Most of them use my surname or my nickname.

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Blackrising wrote...

I don't mind my PC being called by her/his surname or title.
People have mentioned that it seems unnatural for friends to call the PC by her/his surname, but I don't think so. I have plenty of friends that only call me by my surname.
In fact, I think I only have maybe one or two friends that actually call me by my first name. Most of them use my surname or my nickname.


This is actually weird if your close friend call you by your surname only. My friend only call me by my surname when they're joking. Like ''- Eh MR.SURNAME, What the hell are doing here (start laughing)? ''

or when they're mimicking other encounter in a third person narrative. :P .. But between us ? That would be weird.

Modifié par Suprez30, 09 décembre 2012 - 06:42 .


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People often use my brothers last name rather than first just because his first is so common. I think the record is four others with the same name in his class.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 09 décembre 2012 - 06:42 .


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Manic Sheep wrote...

People often use my brothers last name rather than first just because his first is so common. I think the record is four others with the same name in his class.


People are not your ''close'' friend. That depend of the situation. But if you're chilling with your friend and they call you with your surname ? That just weird.

In french we have a word for this .. Called Tutoyer.

Modifié par Suprez30, 09 décembre 2012 - 06:45 .


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Suprez30 wrote...

Blackrising wrote...

I don't mind my PC being called by her/his surname or title.
People have mentioned that it seems unnatural for friends to call the PC by her/his surname, but I don't think so. I have plenty of friends that only call me by my surname.
In fact, I think I only have maybe one or two friends that actually call me by my first name. Most of them use my surname or my nickname.


This is actually weird if your close friend call you by your surname only. My friend only call me by my surname when they're joking. Like ''- Eh MR.SURNAME, What the hell are doing here (start laughing)? ''

or when they're mimicking other encounter in a third person narrative. :P .. But between us ? That would be weird.


Well, I have a pretty common first name, so there's that.

But it may also be a matter of culture. Where I live (Germany, Bavaria), it's actually not uncommon to call people by their last names. It may be weird at first, but over time, the surname turns into a nickname that can be as friendly as any other.

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 I don't mind the character being called by their last name, even by close friends. This could be because my father's friends (including my own mother) call him by his last name. And his first name is neither common nor uncommon.

That said, I'd like to see a mix between "Inquisitor" and our surname, with some petnames by our friends/lovers thrown in.

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doesn't bother me. When I was born I couldn't choose my own name. pretty messed up.

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Lord Aesir wrote...

nightscrawl wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

I can't say I care. It gets odd when close friends only call you by your surname but titles make things seem so formal.

Here's the weird thing for me. I've actually had head conversations with various people, but I always use Hawke in those. At this point, I'm so used to hearing Hawke, and to thinking of my character as Hawke that using the given name I came up with is weird.

Actually I know that feeling exactly.  :mellow:

I recall a movie where a guy used only his last name because his first name was Mariane.  So I guess it happens.


I had a friend I call for Nielsen (his last name) Everyone at our class called him that. Why, I don't remember, but some people are just called by their last name, as a nickname.

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Wouldn't it be great if people started to call you something different depending on the choices you made.

non scripted choices I mean.

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Suprez30 wrote...

Manic Sheep wrote...

People often use my brothers last name rather than first just because his first is so common. I think the record is four others with the same name in his class.


People are not your ''close'' friend. That depend of the situation. But if you're chilling with your friend and they call you with your surname ? That just weird.

In french we have a word for this .. Called Tutoyer.

Some of his close friends do as well though. It's just how they are use to addressing him I gues.

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I'd be annoyed if I couldn't pick a first name at least. Not because my characters names are meaningful at all - lately they seem to be mostly named after random norwegian biathletes - but because they help me think of them as different characters. And because naming gives a sense of ownership

Modifié par Wulfram, 09 décembre 2012 - 07:36 .