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Is a sequel to ME3 impossible?


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KillTheWiseOne

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 We all know that the polls show that the fans overwhelmingly want a sequel, not a prequel. However, the Extended Cut may have made this impossible to achive. A lot of us, myself included, chose to refuse. This creates a cenario in which the entire galaxy goes extinct to make way for the next cycle to win. I always assumed that, if BW was going to make a sequel, it would take place far enough in the future where your decision was made moot. However, you can't go so far into the future where the entire lore, the entire ME universe, no longer exists as it was in the Original trilogy. This would destroy the brand, and may as well be a new IP.

On the other hand, they can't just egnore Shep's final choice and expect to maintain the fan base that remains optimistic about BW. It's quite a pickle.

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 If they decide to make a sequel then they will pick one of the endings and go from there. More than likely it will be destroy because for the most part the galaxy is the same (minus the geth). 

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Not a good sequel

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I think refuse would be non-canon like the 'Shepard dies' ending of ME2.

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KillTheWiseOne

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That seems likely, however I think that the fans will be largely unsatisfied if this is the case. I know I would have no interest in a game That ignored what I did as Shep. The end, as bad as it was, was the only real choice we actually had that had any weight to it.

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It's not impossible. If anything it's too easy. What will be hard is to make it any good.

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TJBartlemus wrote...

It's not impossible. If anything it's too easy. What will be hard is to make it any good.



Yep making it good will be a BIG CHALLENGE

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I don't think its impossible, but I do think it will be a challenge to do it well without having a canon ending. Personally, I think its going to be hard to do a prequel for the same reasons, its not impossible but really hard to do well.

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Sanunes wrote...

I don't think its impossible, but I do think it will be a challenge to do it well without having a canon ending. Personally, I think its going to be hard to do a prequel for the same reasons, its not impossible but really hard to do well.


i don't think people would buy a prequel, even if it was a great game because the sense of discovery and exploration would be gone. It would feel dull, and the content would have to stay low key, otherwise you would have heard about the events in the current games. The only way BW could make a prequel work would be by making a game more like Firefly (smaller, more personal story about a few people), and less like Star Wars (with galaxy defining decisions being made left and right).

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KillTheWiseOne wrote...

Sanunes wrote...

I don't think its impossible, but I do think it will be a challenge to do it well without having a canon ending. Personally, I think its going to be hard to do a prequel for the same reasons, its not impossible but really hard to do well.


i don't think people would buy a prequel, even if it was a great game because the sense of discovery and exploration would be gone. It would feel dull, and the content would have to stay low key, otherwise you would have heard about the events in the current games. The only way BW could make a prequel work would be by making a game more like Firefly (smaller, more personal story about a few people), and less like Star Wars (with galaxy defining decisions being made left and right).


I would rather buy a prequel then a sequel that has any other ending then destory as canon

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KillTheWiseOne wrote...

 We all know that the polls show that the fans overwhelmingly want a sequel, not a prequel. However, the Extended Cut may have made this impossible to achive. A lot of us, myself included, chose to refuse. This creates a cenario in which the entire galaxy goes extinct to make way for the next cycle to win. I always assumed that, if BW was going to make a sequel, it would take place far enough in the future where your decision was made moot. However, you can't go so far into the future where the entire lore, the entire ME universe, no longer exists as it was in the Original trilogy. This would destroy the brand, and may as well be a new IP.

On the other hand, they can't just egnore Shep's final choice and expect to maintain the fan base that remains optimistic about BW. It's quite a pickle.


Well, you can actually jump far enough ahead. Just as long as you're cool with the only plot element that defines a Mass Effect game being the existence of eezo. Asari, turians, and even humans will be extinct, but hey, we got biotics so it's still totally a Mass Effect game, right? Oh and synthesis will be in force, because the devs already said its inevitable. So yeah, that's the sequel. Synthesis without the races we know, ourselves included. Sweet.

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Honestly they can take all but refuse into canon. Refuse won't work because humanity won't exist and have a non human main character would not work, as many on the forums have said.

I mean it would have to be a reasonable time in the future and all the ending aren't too different. In destroy Shepard lives(is some cases dies), edi and the geth are gone, the galaxy is in a huge recession, and the reapers are no more. In synthesis, everyone glows, the reapers are still around, Shepard is dead, and the galaxy is peacefully rebuilding. If control, the reapers are still around, Shepard is dead, and the galaxy is rebuilding slower than synthesis.

Come to think about it, the ending aren't too different that they could not take all options into perspective. As far as the reapers go, have it so that they have been disarmed and are used purely to rebuild. Their technology would be out to use regardless of whether they survived.

It's not impossible they just have to think it through, which ironically what I'm afraid of. I trust them to do a good job, but I don't trust EA to give them enough time to do so. If 343 can have a team of lore checkers on the set of forward unto dawn, bioware can hire some crazy fans in Montreal to oversee development because I think fans get things right and can get more into it than developers can.

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King Ptolemy IV wrote...

Honestly they can take all but refuse into canon. Refuse won't work because humanity won't exist and have a non human main character would not work, as many on the forums have said.

I mean it would have to be a reasonable time in the future and all the ending aren't too different. In destroy Shepard lives(is some cases dies), edi and the geth are gone, the galaxy is in a huge recession, and the reapers are no more. In synthesis, everyone glows, the reapers are still around, Shepard is dead, and the galaxy is peacefully rebuilding. If control, the reapers are still around, Shepard is dead, and the galaxy is rebuilding slower than synthesis.

 

i agree with most of this, however, the existence or destruction of the reapers would be a huge obstacle to overcome. If the endings were just control or synthisis, I would agree 100%, but with destroy, the geth and reapers are gone. Both of these species would be way to important to take a back seat in the plot, allowing them to be written out for the people who chose destroy. We would most likely be looking at a repeat of the Rachni queen situation.

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It's easy enough to accommodate Refuse players. The game starts on the lifeless ruins of Earth.... and nothing happens.

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Like every game with many Endings in History, they will pick a sequel, many will like other will cry, other will rant, other will just....well.

They will decide one that will be cannon, and that will be.

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It's not impossible, but it would be an expensive and lengthy proposition.

You'd essentially have to make three different games, depending on what ending the player chose.

Unless they pulled a retcon and made one of the endings canon.

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I think they kind of proven that me3 was impossible :(

there is a certain will and desired to create a game where "choices matter" and bioware does not have it

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It can be possible to make a sequal without choosing canon (with changes here and there with every choice made), but I can't really see how refuse is going to work.

Well, unless they will say a group of two from every race succeeded to hide from the Reapers, then multiplied, and in the end succeeded to stop the Reapers. Then all the races we know lived, and it's (kind of) possible to start a sequal from the same place as the other choices.

But really, the odds it's going to work (or any other simillar idea) are next to nothing.

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The relays are destroyed in each of the 3 major endings and are said to be on their way to being rebuilt, but how long will that take really? and will every world be rerouted or will some be forgotten or so irrelevant that it may take years for the rebuilding project to reach them?

This creates a setting unconnected to the rest of the galaxy. The setting is insulated from most major polarizing choices of the trilogy such as the possibility of a genophage cure and the destruction of the Quarians. Any Krogan in this setting would have been isolated from ever having received the cure and any Quarians in this setting would have been unable to return to the flotilla due to the Reaper invasion, etc.

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It would be impossible since everyone will complain how their game didn't matter. I Know already that destroy will be the default if it happen but the ****storm after the press release will be as big as the ending complaints. But as I chose dedtroy I could care less

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AlanC9 wrote...

It's easy enough to accommodate Refuse players. The game starts on the lifeless ruins of Earth.... and nothing happens.


Lmao

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Why didn't anything matter? I mean you saved David Archer from Cerberus in Mass Effect 2. How did that not matter? You saved Maelon's data to be used in curing the genophage and it was used to cure it.

I honestly don't understand this argument. Unless people think your choices didn't matter because the mass relays got destroyed. It didn't destroy any of the planets though, just the relays. Everyone is still alive.

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It would definitely be a challenge for them to make a sequel in regards to a threat as large in scope as the reapers. I dont know though i mean the leviathans are still out there right?.....

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Couldn't they do something that happens during Mass Effect 3? Not really a sequel or prequel, but something in between?

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starscreamerx31 wrote...

It would definitely be a challenge for them to make a sequel in regards to a threat as large in scope as the reapers. I dont know though i mean the leviathans are still out there right?.....

How about a trilogy set in a Dystopian future where there is no more Council, Alliance or Spectres, and the Yahg/Leviathan have completely conquered the galaxy?