Helena Tylena wrote...
Plaintiff wrote...
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Not how tranquility works.
From the Dragon Age Wiki: "The Tranquil are stripped of their capacity to form anything other than a logical opinion. However, they neither lose their memory nor become automotons: they possess free will. They do not wish to die and are no more susceptible to suggestion than they were previously. They're more agreeable and would not normally oppose an authority figure, but if the Tranquil saw a logical reason not to follow an order, they would do so. Tranquil can't take offense and know no modesty."
http://dragonage.wik...m/wiki/Tranquil
That's not what we've been shown in-game though. In fact, I'd say there's quite a large disparity between what this codex describes and what we actually see.
*shrugs* I generally assume the wiki to be canon, as the people who compile it generally know what they're doing.
That said, DA2 took quite a few liberties with lore established in DA:O.
No, it was always nonsense, I'm afraid. The Tranquil do not use logic. At least, not any logic I've ever encountered. Possessing logic also means possessing a level of critical thought that the Tranquil have simply never exhibited.
Take what the wiki says: The Tranquil do not wish to die, so
logically, they should take steps to prevent any sort of physical harm to themselves, because any physical harm carries with it the risk of further physical harm, possibly culminating in death. But in DA:O, Owain does not act in accordance with this. If he does not wish to die, then the logical thought that should
form is "get as far away from the danger (in this case, demons), as possible". But he does not do this.
Instead, mind-bogglingly, because he does not perceive himself to be in "immediate danger" (a nonsensical assessment of the situation, because there are abominations right upstairs), he carries on with his chores, even though those aforementioned demons could
very easily destroy the doors and reach him. He did, in fact, attempt to leave the tower, but did not think to call out when his way was barred. If a Tranquil can't even think to do that, then they are not thinking
logically. A logical assessment of the situation would include an appraisal of the viability of all possible actions, and yelling is definitely a viable action. Wynne, who lives in the Circle and should be expected to have some experience with the Tranquil, even expresses surprise at the fact that Owain simply did not think to do this.
Similarly, Tranquil in the Kirkwall Circle allow themselves to be beaten.
The wiki also states that the Tranquil keep their memories, but that's not really true either. Emotions are a part of memory, and they provide context. Without emotions, memories have no meaning. Karl doesn't
really remember that he and Anders were once close friends and/or lovers, because he cannot recall the
emotions he felt during the time they were together.
The wiki also states that a Tranquil will disobey an order if they see a logical reason to disobey. I can think of several extremely logical reasons for Tranquil to refuse to perform sexual acts on Ser Alrik and other templars, not the least of which are pregnancy and the possibility of communicable disease, but apparently they obey his commands all the same, or else his motives for illegally using the rite of Tranquility on young female mages would make no sense.
Modifié par Plaintiff, 10 décembre 2012 - 02:16 .
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