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Same thing others are saying, but restated: If you do your homework and are fast and good at pointing this weapon, there is always a satisfying crunch. Flawless operation leads to murderously wonderful killing sprees. But...reload cancel as a requirement can be a nuisance if you use it all the time (on the other hand, this teaches good practice for other weapons as well).

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Urdnot Trex wrote...

play it on defualt human soldier for 2 shot claymore! so beast. works with classes that use MM too, but its better on him!

BF3 soldier. Incendiary Ammo

Claymore - AR - Carnage - Claymore. Brute downed instantly. Glorious!


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It`s not used to kill a group of enemies... just one at a time fast.

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Storm-Reaver wrote...

CzarViktor wrote...

King Amazing wrote... I dunno either OP. Then again, I'm pretty weird. I like the crusader.

I too like this noble shotgun ever since I picked it up this weekened finally.

Talon does everything it can do like 10 times better.


IIRC talon has ridiculous spread. Crusader can literally headshot enemies from across any map. Not to mention a natural .5 penetration.

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Lightning Cloud wrote...

Dunno. Never use shotguns period.



I LOLed

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 I don't for one reason.
That huge red bar of cooldown scares me to no friggin end.

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Smallpox_Jenkins wrote...

 I don't for one reason.
That huge red bar of cooldown scares me to no friggin end.



*cough* passive *cough*

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For the same reason our enemies hate the Claymore... Because it makes them dead.

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Smallpox_Jenkins wrote...

 I don't for one reason.
That huge red bar of cooldown scares me to no friggin end.


Do you mostly play casters? The cooldown doesn't really matter much for weapon-based builds.

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King Amazing wrote...

Storm-Reaver wrote...

CzarViktor wrote...

King Amazing wrote... I dunno either OP. Then again, I'm pretty weird. I like the crusader.

I too like this noble shotgun ever since I picked it up this weekened finally.

Talon does everything it can do like 10 times better.


IIRC talon has ridiculous spread. Crusader can literally headshot enemies from across any map. Not to mention a natural .5 penetration.



Not to mention 0.005% the damage of a claymore.

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Here are my thoughts on shotguns.

Claymore: Awesome firepower, stops enemies dead, can be modded for sniper like range
Wraith: Claymore's little brother, awesome firepower, two shot clip, mods enough to get some decent long range
Crusader: Awesome firepower, if you aren't careful you can over mod accuracy to be TOO accurate. ((I'm not kidding either))
Eviscerator: Decent firepower, mods well for range, decent clip size
Reegar Carbine: Basically an ARC style flamethrower, burns through ammo but eats shields like nothing
Disciple: Lightweight, good for vanguards that like biotics more then weapons, terrible if you plan to use only your gun.
Piranha: Used to be a shotgun god until the weapon was nerfed
Geth Plasma: Amazing long range capabilities, hits HARD if used with Geth Infiltrator

I use shotguns almost exclusively. I know what I'm talking about, however if someone spots an error in my judgement please let me know. With Mass Effect 3 and space magic you always learn new things.

EDIT: Also the Talon while a pistol is technically a shotgun. I have never used mine so I don't know much about it.

Modifié par CzarViktor, 10 décembre 2012 - 12:02 .


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How is this even a question?

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Josh3598 wrote...

Has anyone got any advice on reload cancelling for consoles then?
Pretty please?
HELP THIS CONSOLE PEASANT EMBRACE THE CLAYMORE.

use one of your powers.  With infiltrators, HS or Tursol use the Y button. The  A button+direction works well for kits that cannot dodge.

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I don't. give my my wraith any day of the week and twice on sunday.

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CzarViktor wrote...

Here are my thoughts on shotguns.

Claymore: Awesome firepower, stops enemies dead, can be modded for sniper like range
Wraith: Claymore's little brother, awesome firepower, two shot clip, mods enough to get some decent long range
Crusader: Awesome firepower, if you aren't careful you can over mod accuracy to be TOO accurate. ((I'm not kidding either))
Eviscerator: Decent firepower, mods well for range, decent clip size
Reegar Carbine: Basically an ARC style flamethrower, burns through ammo but eats shields like nothing
Disciple: Lightweight, good for vanguards that like biotics more then weapons, terrible if you plan to use only your gun.
Piranha: Used to be a shotgun god until the weapon was nerfed
Geth Plasma: Amazing long range capabilities, hits HARD if used with Geth Infiltrator

I use shotguns almost exclusively. I know what I'm talking about, however if someone spots an error in my judgement please let me know. With Mass Effect 3 and space magic you always learn new things.

EDIT: Also the Talon while a pistol is technically a shotgun. I have never used mine so I don't know much about it.



Forgot to mention Wraith is reasonably lightweight for the dmg it does.

Also, you gotta use Talon, you're missing out 0-o

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doozerdude wrote...

King Amazing wrote...

Storm-Reaver wrote...

CzarViktor wrote...

King Amazing wrote... I dunno either OP. Then again, I'm pretty weird. I like the crusader.

I too like this noble shotgun ever since I picked it up this weekened finally.

Talon does everything it can do like 10 times better.


IIRC talon has ridiculous spread. Crusader can literally headshot enemies from across any map. Not to mention a natural .5 penetration.



Not to mention 0.005% the damage of a claymore.


Since this forum has a strange obsession with DPS, I'll point out that the Crusader I has a higher DPS than the Claymore X.

Modifié par King Amazing, 10 décembre 2012 - 12:05 .


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also how raw it is man.. it sounds like it's sawing faces off, and it is...

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doozerdude wrote...

CzarViktor wrote...

Here are my thoughts on shotguns.

Claymore: Awesome firepower, stops enemies dead, can be modded for sniper like range
Wraith: Claymore's little brother, awesome firepower, two shot clip, mods enough to get some decent long range
Crusader: Awesome firepower, if you aren't careful you can over mod accuracy to be TOO accurate. ((I'm not kidding either))
Eviscerator: Decent firepower, mods well for range, decent clip size
Reegar Carbine: Basically an ARC style flamethrower, burns through ammo but eats shields like nothing
Disciple: Lightweight, good for vanguards that like biotics more then weapons, terrible if you plan to use only your gun.
Piranha: Used to be a shotgun god until the weapon was nerfed
Geth Plasma: Amazing long range capabilities, hits HARD if used with Geth Infiltrator

I use shotguns almost exclusively. I know what I'm talking about, however if someone spots an error in my judgement please let me know. With Mass Effect 3 and space magic you always learn new things.

EDIT: Also the Talon while a pistol is technically a shotgun. I have never used mine so I don't know much about it.



Forgot to mention Wraith is reasonably lightweight for the dmg it does.

Also, you gotta use Talon, you're missing out 0-o


You are correct. I did forget to mention lightwieght for the wraith. I was planning on testing the Talon out today actually.

Modifié par CzarViktor, 10 décembre 2012 - 12:07 .


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CzarViktor wrote...

Here are my thoughts on shotguns.

Claymore: Awesome firepower, stops enemies dead, can be modded for sniper like range
Wraith: Claymore's little brother, awesome firepower, two shot clip, mods enough to get some decent long range
Crusader: Awesome firepower, if you aren't careful you can over mod accuracy to be TOO accurate. ((I'm not kidding either))
Eviscerator: Decent firepower, mods well for range, decent clip size
Reegar Carbine: Basically an ARC style flamethrower, burns through ammo but eats shields like nothing
Disciple: Lightweight, good for vanguards that like biotics more then weapons, terrible if you plan to use only your gun.
Piranha: Used to be a shotgun god until the weapon was nerfed
Geth Plasma: Amazing long range capabilities, hits HARD if used with Geth Infiltrator

I use shotguns almost exclusively. I know what I'm talking about, however if someone spots an error in my judgement please let me know. With Mass Effect 3 and space magic you always learn new things.

EDIT: Also the Talon while a pistol is technically a shotgun. I have never used mine so I don't know much about it.


Piranha is still a great weapon... The best anti-boss shotgun in my opinion. Even with the reduced clip size it eats through big guys like nothing. 

Also, I definitely prefer raider/piranha/claymore on a GI to a GPS. It's great, but GPS can be weirdly unreliable when playing off-host... Then again, the stagger makes it an anti-phantom weapon like no other. 

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Doc-Jek wrote...

CzarViktor wrote...

Here are my thoughts on shotguns.

Claymore: Awesome firepower, stops enemies dead, can be modded for sniper like range
Wraith: Claymore's little brother, awesome firepower, two shot clip, mods enough to get some decent long range
Crusader: Awesome firepower, if you aren't careful you can over mod accuracy to be TOO accurate. ((I'm not kidding either))
Eviscerator: Decent firepower, mods well for range, decent clip size
Reegar Carbine: Basically an ARC style flamethrower, burns through ammo but eats shields like nothing
Disciple: Lightweight, good for vanguards that like biotics more then weapons, terrible if you plan to use only your gun.
Piranha: Used to be a shotgun god until the weapon was nerfed
Geth Plasma: Amazing long range capabilities, hits HARD if used with Geth Infiltrator

I use shotguns almost exclusively. I know what I'm talking about, however if someone spots an error in my judgement please let me know. With Mass Effect 3 and space magic you always learn new things.

EDIT: Also the Talon while a pistol is technically a shotgun. I have never used mine so I don't know much about it.


Piranha is still a great weapon... The best anti-boss shotgun in my opinion. Even with the reduced clip size it eats through big guys like nothing. 

Also, I definitely prefer raider/piranha/claymore on a GI to a GPS. It's great, but GPS can be weirdly unreliable when playing off-host... Then again, the stagger makes it an anti-phantom weapon like no other. 




I KNEW I FORGOT A GUN! The Raider is definatly one of my favorites. Though it is best used with a Destroyer or a Krogan in my opinion. It just doesn't have the range.

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King Amazing wrote...

Since this forum has a strange obsession with DPS, I'll point out that the Crusader I has a higher DPS than the Claymore X.



Maybe... If you are shooting the claymore at the enemies feet (even then...), and miraculously hitting the enemies head with all 4 shots of the crusader

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doozerdude wrote...

King Amazing wrote...

Since this forum has a strange obsession with DPS, I'll point out that the Crusader I has a higher DPS than the Claymore X.



Maybe... If you are shooting the claymore at the enemies feet (even then...), and miraculously hitting the enemies head with all 4 shots of the crusader


Headshots with the crusader are easier then you'd think

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doozerdude wrote...

King Amazing wrote...

Since this forum has a strange obsession with DPS, I'll point out that the Crusader I has a higher DPS than the Claymore X.



Maybe... If you are shooting the claymore at the enemies feet (even then...), and miraculously hitting the enemies head with all 4 shots of the crusader


Educate yourself

With reload cancelling, the Claymore X manages to beat out the Crusader I, but still loses when the Crusader has a few more upgrades (something which should not be too rare this late in the game).

Modifié par King Amazing, 10 décembre 2012 - 12:15 .


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Whatever DPS figures say, the Claymore and the Wraith both tend to destroy whatever you point them at—even in the hands of casters.

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King Amazing wrote...

Since this forum has a strange obsession with DPS, I'll point out that the Crusader I has a higher DPS than the Claymore X.


That's why DPS, or any stat for that matter, is completely useless.